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Arivia posted:I’m pretty sure idling at a timmies drinking lovely coffee is also a civil right in Canada This is unacceptable hate speech; the Tim Hortons corporation will not stand for this libellous denigration of Tim Hortons Coffee©
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Mar 4, 2023 17:48
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trapstar posted:All speech should be protected. And yes the Americans have a better system for protecting their rights than us. You already agreed earlier that threats of violence are not okay so clearly you can't be an absolutist. But you're fine with hate speech and slurs as long as they don't directly threaten violence? Is it cool to scream about how minorities should be killed as long as you don't volunteer to do it yourself? Or do we just need more Westboro Baptist Churches?
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Mar 4, 2023 17:50
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Im sure the telegram channels that these are coordinated in sharing politicians and public servants addresses won't be an issue in the future.
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Mar 4, 2023 18:46
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trapstar posted:Our right to freedom of speech. That right doesn't exist. wow i need to type faster
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Mar 4, 2023 22:23
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Americans have great freedom of speech unless your a journalist publishing their war crimes
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Mar 4, 2023 22:26
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COPE 27 posted:Americans have great freedom of speech unless your a journalist publishing their war crimes CIA merit of distinction.
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Mar 4, 2023 22:43
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flakeloaf posted:That right doesn't exist. Weird how people keep thinking this is a thing we have here in Canada.
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Mar 4, 2023 23:05
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I wonder how that guy feels about foreign interference in our democracy, considering his opinions about our “rights”.
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Mar 4, 2023 23:12
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Apparently, there was a dust-up at the anti-drag protest at Calgary City Hall. Small anti-drag contingent with a large counter-protest. Of course, the only source is loving Keean Bexte, and he's been slow-rolling the poo poo.
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Mar 4, 2023 23:13
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Crow Buddy posted:I wonder how that guy feels about foreign interference in our democracy, considering his opinions about our “rights”. Is it really 'foreign' interference if Harper's in charge of the group doing it?
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Mar 4, 2023 23:17
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Well Harper is very clearly an alien robot in a bad wig, so technically yes, he is foreign.
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Mar 4, 2023 23:44
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trapstar posted:Calgarians, I have to ask you, sincerely. Why would you let this woman anywhere near the office of mayor? I will forever be thankful that the chud vote for that year was split between the "I think taxes are bad" guy and the "let's give all the public money to a sports team" guy
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Mar 5, 2023 00:36
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:I will forever be thankful that the chud vote for that year was split between the "I think taxes are bad" guy and the "let's give all the public money to a sports team" guy Apparently Farkas went on a 3 month hike after he lost and has become less of a douchebag so that's another good thing to come out of that particular election
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Mar 5, 2023 02:00
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MakaVillian posted:Apparently Farkas went on a 3 month hike after he lost and has become less of a douchebag so that's another good thing to come out of that particular election I mean, if he did all that without seeking publicity for doing so, great for him. The fact he's sought attention for his reformation suggests he's intending to continue acting in public life again so who gives a poo poo about his dumb hike. Hey guys, I walked a bunch til I didn't suck anymore, how about a council seat?? Eh??
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Mar 5, 2023 02:10
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This is cool. https://twitter.com/goodtroubleyqr/status/1632013885308903426?s=46&t=4eOzkNAty-o4Dvnt3yJrKA 
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Mar 5, 2023 02:26
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Anytime a Canadian bloviates about “free speech” you just know that they have been poisoned with discourse from the United States since Canada explicitly does not have that.
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Mar 5, 2023 03:59
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sitchensis posted:Anytime a Canadian bloviates about “free speech” you just know that they have been poisoned with discourse from the United States since Canada explicitly does not have that. ??? 2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and (d) freedom of association
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Mar 5, 2023 04:16
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You'll find your right to free speech at the bottom of a well, actually...
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Mar 5, 2023 04:19
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COPE 27 posted:??? Yes, exactly? We have freedom of expression. America has freedom of speech.
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Mar 5, 2023 04:19
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The only real difference in speech rights compared to USA is we don't pretend they are absolute and have to invent rube Goldberg legal theories to get around it
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Mar 5, 2023 04:20
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COPE 27 posted:??? Offer only valid as long as a provincial legislature doesn't say "Nah, I don't want that" and slams the nonwithstanding clause button.
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Mar 5, 2023 04:20
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sitchensis posted:Yes, exactly? We have freedom of expression. America has freedom of speech. Please elaborate
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Mar 5, 2023 04:21
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Offer only valid as long as a provincial legislature doesn't say "Nah, I don't want that" and slams the nonwithstanding clause button. Lol as opposed to the US?
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Mar 5, 2023 04:22
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COPE 27 posted:The only real difference in speech rights compared to USA is we don't pretend they are absolute and have to invent rube Goldberg legal theories to get around it That has actually been the point of some of the conversation in the previous pages.
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Mar 5, 2023 04:24
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COPE 27 posted:Please elaborate Think about how ridiculous it would be if I was an American getting into debates with fellow Americans about the American legal concept of free speech and I only used the term for the Canadian legal concept of freedom of expression instead of free speech.
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Mar 5, 2023 04:24
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sitchensis posted:Think about how ridiculous it would be if I was an American getting into debates with fellow Americans about the American legal concept of free speech and I only used the Canadian term for the Canadian legal concept of freedom of expression instead of free speech. Not very?
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Mar 5, 2023 04:25
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COPE 27 posted:Not very? You think an American debating the concept of “free speech” with other Americans, and using a term from the Canadian legal system to refer to it, wouldn’t reflect on how badly they understand the American concept of free speech if they can’t even use the correct legal term for it in their own country?
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Mar 5, 2023 04:27
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IANASCJ but there are two broad interpretations here: 1. "Expression" encompasses not just speech, sign language and written word but other non-verbal communication forms like interpretive dance, performance art and political donations by numbered corporations, or: 2. "Expression" is narrowly defined as an idiomatic phrase, the free usage of which was critical to Newfoundland's decision to join the (con)federation. A third interpretation involving the physical expression of, for example, bodily fluids, was considered by the court but ultimately rejected (notably this decision predates R v tubgirl.jpg).
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Mar 5, 2023 04:29
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eXXon posted:A third interpretation involving the physical expression of, for example, bodily fluids, was considered by the court but ultimately rejected on numerous innumerable grounds. And yet I have been charged multiple times and banned from otherwise public places for freely expressing myself
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Mar 5, 2023 04:32
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A lot of people itt unfamiliar with the People's freedom of choices and voices act 
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Mar 5, 2023 04:36
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infernal machines posted:And yet I have been charged multiple times and banned from otherwise public places for freely expressing myself You can't express yourself within 100 feet of a school or playground
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Mar 5, 2023 04:37
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sitchensis posted:You think an American debating the concept of “free speech” with other Americans, and using a term from the Canadian legal system to refer to it, wouldn’t reflect on how badly they understand the American concept of free speech if they can’t even use the correct legal term for it in their own country? No I think most people are very much capable of having a normal conversation without pulling out their law dictionaries.
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Mar 5, 2023 04:38
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COPE 27 posted:You can't express yourself within 100 feet of a school or playground They're trampling my rights!
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Mar 5, 2023 04:45
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COPE 27 posted:No I think most people are very much capable of having a normal conversation without pulling out their law dictionaries. I think it would be weird and certainly unusual for an American to start referencing language used in the Charter. OTOH, it's actually quite common for Canadians to use language from the US Constitution, in some cases because they don't realize that it isn't the Charter, that the Charter exists, and is a different thing from the US Constitution, and by extension that Canada is actually its own country with its own laws and legal tradition.
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Mar 5, 2023 04:54
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infernal machines posted:I think it would be weird and certainly unusual for an American to start referencing language used in the Charter. OTOH, it's actually quite common for Canadians to use language from the US Constitution, in some cases because they don't realize that it isn't the Charter, that the Charter exists, and is a different thing from the US Constitution, and by extension that Canada is actually its own country with its own laws and legal tradition. Wikipedia posted:Terms like free speech, freedom of speech, and freedom of expression are used interchangeably in political discourse.
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Mar 5, 2023 05:18
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Thank you for quoting Wikipedia at me. That certainly made whatever your point was for you.
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Mar 5, 2023 05:19
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My HR director referred to the workers compensation board recently. Instead of accusing him of importing legal concepts from BC I just assumed he was referring to the Workplace Safety and Insurance Board because I'm not a robot
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Mar 5, 2023 05:22
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I still have no idea what your point is, but if you believe that trapstar is able to have a cogent conversation on the extents and limits of freedom of expression in Canada, you're welcome to try
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Mar 5, 2023 05:28
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Do you get mad when people say we are a democracy instead of a constitutional monarchy?
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Mar 5, 2023 05:29
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infernal machines posted:if you believe that trapstar is able to have a cogent conversation I think we're still taking depositions on this topic.
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Mar 5, 2023 05:32
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