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i was hoarding egoshards until late chapter three you GOTTA be uptying. im still hoarding some but the difficulty does ramp
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Arkanian posted:I saw someone mention that you need a seal to pass an event in the third dungeon, along with multiple other items. I just picked up the seal... Is one of the other items the warehouse key? I already used that one. No, the other items are all named Token of (X), so they're hard to miss.
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If you don't have enough threads to max uptie an ID, it's better to use a default 0 ID over it (after Chapter 2 when they get automatically uptied, of course). From what I've heard Heathcliff, Hong Lu and Outis are good, while Don is undertuned.
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Mar 5, 2023 05:36
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yeah ive been using base heathcliff all throughout chapter 3, because blunt, and hes great
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Base Meursault is a solid tank and base Sinclair is pretty good at clashing. Honestly most of the base IDs are pretty dang good.
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Mar 5, 2023 05:59
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All of Meursault's Identities kinda encourage him to tank. His Liu Identity's passive inflicts Burn whenever he gets hit while it's active, and his WARP one gives him Charge when he's hit. It actually kinda means he wants to go in one-sided and let the enemy hit him naturally rather than clash, at least sometimes.
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just simultaneously pulled g corp gregor and blade lineage sinclair i've rather been liking liu gregor (at my current not-yet-done-ch2 pace, rip), and blade lineage sinclair, despite being 3*, is not mariachi sinclair so I'm immediately side-eyeing it
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Google Jeb Bush posted:just simultaneously pulled g corp gregor and blade lineage sinclair I can confirm that Liu Gregor is absolutely fantastic: I ran double Liu (Gregor / Meurseult) and double LCCB (Ishmael and Rodion) through 99% of Chapter 3, dungeon included. The fifth slot was flexible between default Heathcliff and Mariachi Sinclair for the most part. The Liu boys are among my favorites, and it is extra convenient both Ishmael and Rodion end up with Burn-supporting EGO on that team.
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oh hey, a communist! (towards end of casino)
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Mar 5, 2023 07:12
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I was not expecting the hijinks of Chapter 2 after Misery Non Stop of Chapter 1 and Library of Ruina's entire story
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More questions! A Sinner's sin resistances are based on the lowest level of EGO they have equipped, right? So if I have Crow's Eye View [ZAYIN, N-N-En-N-F-N-F] and Wishing Cairn [TETH, N-N-In-F-F-N-N] equipped to Yi Sang, his resistances are those of Crow's Eye View, but if I unequip it, he gets the resistances of Wishing Cairn? What about if I go into a battle with out any EGO equipped? For Clashes, is it just [Base Power + Coin effects] that determines the number that tracks a clash? Or is there anything else that affects the numbers?
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Quackles posted:More questions! It's impossible to go into battle without an ego, and you will always have a Zayin ego, since if you try to unequip a non-default zayin, it automatically equips the character's default even if you have higher leveled ones. The higher level ego resistances are only relevant in that if they're higher than the zayin's you get an upgrade (but never a downgrade) to them when you use it.
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Quackles posted:More questions! You can't unequip your ZAYIN, but it's likely that characters will get alternate ZAYIN in the future given the phrasing on that tooltip... and I think some folks have whaled super-hard on Bus Pass levels and confirmed at least one of those is a ZAYIN EGO. As for the Clashes, there are a few other effects: Generally speaking it's Base Power (+ or -) Heads Flip Modifier for each coin in the attack, flipped individually, plus effects that grant Coin Power, plus any advantages from overwhelming differences in the Attack Power stat (the sword that is listed next to attacks, the first full +1 comes in around a 5-point difference), and then any relevant effects of EGO Gifts, Passives, or other special mechanics from dungeon events or w/e.
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Ariamaki posted:You can't unequip your ZAYIN, but it's likely that characters will get alternate ZAYIN in the future given the phrasing on that tooltip... and I think some folks have whaled super-hard on Bus Pass levels and confirmed at least one of those is a ZAYIN EGO. The level 20 free track EGO is a Zayin yes, no need to whale just have to farm mirror dungeons for 3 battle pass points each which well, you have nothing else to spend your stamina on after finishing the story at the moment.
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Cirina posted:The level 20 free track EGO is a Zayin yes, no need to whale just have to farm mirror dungeons for 3 battle pass points each which well, you have nothing else to spend your stamina on after finishing the story at the moment. Oh right, I forgot you got Pass progress after the weekly bonus set finished! I've been juggling a fair bit the past few days so I haven't been digging in to more than one or two Mirrors day.
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Faust and Outis deserve OOO Identities. They don't have any yet
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Monkey's paw curves. ch3 spoilers: One Who Grips Faust
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Ariamaki posted:As for the Clashes, there are a few other effects: Generally speaking it's Base Power (+ or -) Heads Flip Modifier for each coin in the attack, flipped individually, plus effects that grant Coin Power, plus any advantages from overwhelming differences in the Attack Power stat (the sword that is listed next to attacks, the first full +1 comes in around a 5-point difference), and then any relevant effects of EGO Gifts, Passives, or other special mechanics from dungeon events or w/e. Oh, so the Offense stat does affect Power? Good to know. I've been digging into the status effects and I was sorting out Power vs Damage, but I think I have it now.
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Ariamaki posted:I can confirm that Liu Gregor is absolutely fantastic: I ran double Liu (Gregor / Meurseult) and double LCCB (Ishmael and Rodion) through 99% of Chapter 3, dungeon included. The fifth slot was flexible between default Heathcliff and Mariachi Sinclair for the most part. The Liu boys are among my favorites, and it is extra Ishmael and Rodion end up with Burn-supporting EGO on that team. Yeah, both the 00 Liu id's were absolutely worth taking to tier 3 for the third chapter. It's pretty hilarious how hidden the friend support system is compared to how busted it is. I only lost 3-17 once before completely breezing through it. DrManiac fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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Quackles posted:Oh, so the Offense stat does affect Power? Good to know. There are a trio of extremely good breakdown posts from a code-diver and decompiler on the subreddit: Username is 'Twig1554' if you want to look up some very concise guides to the game's guts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu8i-OyjLYk Mili's posted the Ch 3 boss music.
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Okay, finally set up the game on Steam. Friend code is X546267154. Right now I have most guys at around lv10 with no upties but will upgrade Tingtang soon I think. Gonna try how it runs on battle. EDIT: Runs well, but I do need to grind an earlier level / get friends / learn teambuilding because 2-14 just kicked my rear end god, 4 dead on wave 1. GiantRockFromSpace fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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Ariamaki posted:There are a trio of extremely good breakdown posts from a code-diver and decompiler on the subreddit: Username is 'Twig1554' if you want to look up some very concise guides to the game's guts. I wand and looked up the posts, here are the links https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/11gkvob/detailed_combat_breakdowns_sp_coinflips_damage/ https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/11h59kh/detailed_sanity_information_sp_gainloss_ego/ https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/11hig3a/autobattle_and_expected_chance_to_win_demystified/ e: Alright I went through and read these, here are my main takeaways (although there are a lot more details)
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More mechanical confusion. Liu Section 6 Meursault's passive, Great Mountains, says it activates (Lust Res. / 2) times per turn. With his default EGO, Meursault's Lust Resist is Fatal, which I thought was 0.5. But "activates .25 times per turn" makes no sense. How's this work? Bonus: Seven Section 6 Ryoshu's passive, C.I.H, boosts Slash damage by (Gluttony Res. / 2)%. So if she has Fatal (.5) Gluttony resist to start, that's a boost of .5 / 2 = .25 => 25%?
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Quackles posted:More mechanical confusion. Liu Section 6 Meursault's passive, Great Mountains, says it activates (Lust Res. / 2) times per turn. I think it's not "resistance" but, rather, is "resonance"
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So, fun detail abut the monthly lunacy batch - only the initial reward is paid lunacy, the daily lunacy is counted as "free". That's not right.
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Loxo321 posted:I think it's not "resistance" but, rather, is "resonance" Oh, OK. Is 'Resonance' in passives the number of symbols of that color in the chain [when over 2+], then? And what does Absolute Resonance do for that calculation, numerically?
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Qrr posted:So, fun detail abut the monthly lunacy batch - only the initial reward is paid lunacy, the daily lunacy is counted as "free". That's not right.  the daily lunacy from both packs is indeed noted as "Free," not paid
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YES bread posted:
Huh, so it is. Interesting definition of paid vs free. That makes it a worse deal than I thought, oh well.
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So the questionable people on 4chan have worked out some things last night. Being Vergil is suffering.
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GilliamYaeger posted:So the questionable people on 4chan have worked out some things last night. Mind doing a little translation? The kid from chapter 3 seems to related (is?) to Enoch somehow and I don't know what any of the right side is implying.
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Sam Sanskrit posted:Mind doing a little translation? The kid from chapter 3 seems to related (is?) to Enoch somehow and I don't know what any of the right side is implying. 1. Look the same (hair color, hair style, eye color) 2. Have the same pose 3. Talk about finding answers to something in the Outskirts and Saude was one of Vergil's orphans, hence Faust saying she'll give Vergil her regards.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Demian is probably Enoch since they Oh okay I did some digging and apparently this is some Leviathan stuff? I kind of ignored it since I reading in English seemed like a pain and everything seems to suggest it was and will never be finished in English.
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Sam Sanskrit posted:Oh okay I did some digging and apparently this is some Leviathan stuff? I kind of ignored it since I reading in English seemed like a pain and everything seems to suggest it was and will never be finished in English. https://imgur.com/a/Eda97ej (13) https://imgur.com/a/caBqmkc (14) https://imgur.com/a/okfIMVm (15) https://imgur.com/a/BCwN2Vo (16) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FhymLEJf3gldzKK9kHhXrsdLaw6U2RfmWZte1htxyyQ/edit (17) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A9cm9qBzfdYfwopMqy5gorK_RzbfIbtoifrRvI-W63c/edit (18) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xwl8pIcNZehCX1BhExB9ubrPEpWBG2Dz3oqwSViZs7I/edit (19) You really should read it, it's good poo poo.
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Quackles posted:Oh, OK. Is 'Resonance' in passives the number of symbols of that color in the chain [when over 2+], then? Yes, resonance is just how may skills you used with that sin/color this turn. It doesn't matter whether they're connected or adjacent. So if you use 4 orange "lust" skills, Mersault's "res/2" trigger will activate twice that turn. IDK whether it rounds up or down though. Absolute resonance is afaict just triggered by having 3+ resonance. So actually the only way to get non-absolute resonance is to use exactly 2 of a color.
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GilliamYaeger posted:The unfinished stuff has been fan translated with edited MTL. Hell I've got it all right here: Holy poo poo. I'll advocate for your sainthood.
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I can't believe I'm asking this for a gacha game but is leveling 0 Heathcliff going to be more productive than my 000 rabbit Heathcliff for Chapter 3 because of enemy resistances, they're both level 13 and fully uptied? I got my rear end kicked twice in the very first Chapter 3 fight and I assume it's because my Sinners are only level 13 and it's recommended level is 20 so I'm grinding mirror dungeons which is weird because the chapter 3 enemies in the MD I can handle (I'm guessing because of the boosted levels) edit: Okay I was right and having 3 level 20 Sinners helped and I beat the fight Lakbay fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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 Sometimes the RNG decides it's just really, really sick of one of your Sinners in particular.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Yes, resonance is just how may skills you used with that sin/color this turn. It doesn't matter whether they're connected or adjacent. ...huh. I've always assumed there was a benefit for adjacent resonances but it would make sense that it doesn't, and I don't think the game even implies it would, so I dunno where I got that from. Pattern recognition brain strikes again.
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Something I realized: didn't the roadmap say we were getting new EGO on the next banner day too? The promotional material for the upcoming N Corp banner hasn't shown an EGO yet.Saigyouji posted:
Nah, that's a mechanic of those specific enemies. When you do enough damage to one that they switch over both their actions to attack instead of leaving one on Evade, all of them dogpile on a single target. (N Corp hires from ex-Index, I guess.) Sometimes this includes the big three-action one, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it's worth leaving one or two of their attacks one-sided on the first turn so that you can stagger one ASAP and keep the incoming attacks spread out instead of essentially ensuring one person will get staggered.
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