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Season 1 is weird and fun and good, it it absolutely shows that it's a mashup of the westside LA punk pomo art scene that Groening hung around in with the heart that James L Brooks movies have.
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Mar 4, 2023 19:51
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The weird artsy backgrounds in the France exchange student one blew my mind
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Greg12 posted:Season 1 is weird and fun and good, it it absolutely shows that it's a mashup of the westside LA punk pomo art scene that Groening hung around in with the heart that James L Brooks movies have. Yeah, after diving into old comics over the last couple of years, it's so obvious now to see those punk art strides on The Simpsons. There is definitely some Gary Panter influences on the first season. This stuff makes post-Golden Age even more depressing because of its roots.
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Mar 4, 2023 21:50
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And Marge rules in the Bleeding Gums Murphy episode.
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Mar 4, 2023 22:24
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If the show had been cancelled after season one, would the overall quality density be lower or higher than if it were cancelled in 2023?FrumpleOrz posted:And Marge rules in the Bleeding Gums Murphy episode. A mother telling her daughter it’s okay to be sad feels completely ahead of its time for 1990 network television. Halisnacks fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Mar 4, 2023 |
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Mar 4, 2023 22:26
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Halisnacks posted:A mother telling her daughter it’s okay to be sad feels completely ahead of its time for 1990 network television. Like the show is dated in a lot of 89/90 ways but man a lot of this would still be fresh if it came out today. The first season is legit.
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Mar 4, 2023 22:33
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FrumpleOrz posted:I've got the first season of The Simpsons on right now and I don't know how anyone can think this is bad. Is it as good as the best seasons? Of course not but there are a lot of fantastic jokes that come at a slightly slower pace. But the edge for 1989 network television is amazing. I can only imagine what it was like to see it on TV when it first aired. I was far too young to appreciate it from that angle back in the day. It's great stuff. I'll never watch it again if I don't have to. It's not the same as the show I like in the other seasons.
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Mar 4, 2023 22:33
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Homer in the first season is just a wildly different character from what he would later become. Less lovable doofus, more social-status-obsessed, gruff power-tripping household tyrant we all love for ~reasons~. It’s a way bigger change than the “jerkass” turn later
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Mar 4, 2023 22:37
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRA_4cgYij8 Craving some frosty chocolate milkshakes too.
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Mar 4, 2023 22:38
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Call of the Simpsons is probably the first episode that kinda feels like later episodes. It's not completely there yet but a lot of the primordial ooze is there.
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Mar 4, 2023 22:44
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I just don't find season 1 funny tbh
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Mar 4, 2023 22:54
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FrumpleOrz posted:Call of the Simpsons is probably the first episode that kinda feels like later episodes. It's not completely there yet but a lot of the primordial ooze is there. Albert Brooks’ RV salesman is possibly his second best character.
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Mar 4, 2023 22:55
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Just recently watched The Crepes of Wrath and Krusty Gets Busted. Season 1 is good.
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Mar 4, 2023 23:01
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Season 1 has good art 
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Mar 4, 2023 23:05
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The fact that season 1 is seen as tame and wholesome now but was edgy and counter-cultural when it was new is a testament to just how lame the vast majority of TV was up to that point. Sadly by staying on the air 25 years past their prime, they not only tarnished the legacy they would have had as one of the greatest comedies of all time, but also the legacy of being one of a handful of shows to revolutionize television.
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Mar 4, 2023 23:09
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The Simpsons should definitely be off the air but I don’t think the show outstaying its welcome diminishes the impact and influence it has had on television, comedy, and culture more generally. They are like a washed up band/musician that released iconic, genre-defining music a generation ago, but still puts out irrelevant, worse music now.
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hatty posted:Season 1 has good art https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xe3jXRCYhQ
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Halisnacks posted:The Simpsons should definitely be off the air but I don’t think the show outstaying its welcome diminishes the impact and influence it has had on television, comedy, and culture more generally. This is true. Unless it came out that like, all of the writers and whatnot were JK Rowling-tier levels of crazy I don't think the later seasons sucking has affected my enjoyment of the earlier ones. In some ways it might even make me appreciate them more.
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Mar 5, 2023 00:46
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Simpsons in it's prime was genuinely one of the best shows to ever be on television. Which makes its continued decades long death slog towards obscurity even more tragic.
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Halisnacks posted:The Simpsons should definitely be off the air but I don’t think the show outstaying its welcome diminishes the impact and influence it has had on television, comedy, and culture more generally. The show has sucked for so long though that both points have dropped out of the public consciousness. The vast majority of people, even those who may have casually watched it when it was good, just regard The Simpsons as the low effort background noise comedy it's been for 20+ years.
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I have no idea what, say, Gen Z and younger think, but my impression is that most Millenials and older who have an opinion think of the Simpsons as a show that was very funny and good in the 90s, and now is unfunny and boring. Edit: maybe we can analogise to Star Wars after the prequels came out. People thought the prequels sucked, but they didn’t retroactively change their opinion on the original trilogy as a result (or if anything, the suckiness of the newer stuff made people appreciate the originals even more). Halisnacks fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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Mar 5, 2023 01:33
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sometimes i think about the fact that if the show had ended when it should have it would have been rebooted at least once since then. i'm not sure if that would be better or worse
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FrumpleOrz posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRA_4cgYij8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wry3GQGwq0
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In the new one, Carl meets a babe at the alley and they have a bowling themed first date. She owns a soul food restaurant, went to Howard, sings in a gospel choir, is in a Salt-n-Pepa cover band, and generally seems like what a bunch of white writers thing a successful black woman is like, just an accomplished pile of black activites. Carl goes to the black side of town for a haircut, admitting he's never been there. (Bart is a regular at the barber shop there.) He has an identity crisis about not being black enough. There is a dress-up montage of Carl wearing stereotypically black outfits. He trades his belt buckle, which was the only thing he had from his birth parents, to get the store owner to give him a new look. Naima sees through him when he doesn't know who the guy on his new shirt is (Huey P. Newton) and calls collard greens kale. Carl goes to Moe's but the guys are uncomfortable helping him figure out how his adopted Icelandic heritage makes him an outsider in Iceland and in black America. They eventually settle on getting the belt buckle back. It's been sold to Henry Louis Gates (playing himself), who hosts a show called Finding Your Roots. Gates bumps his next guest to have Carl on to talk about it and it cuts to Reiner Wolfcastle holding the Wolfcastle Family History album and saying "You know, it's probably for the best" (best joke in the episode). Gates tells Carl about his great-x4-grandfather who was at the original Juneteenth and became a cowboy. His whole family was cowboys all the way to his father. He foolishly tries to go bullriding and everyone tries to talk him out of it but he does it anyway and gets all messed up but impresses Naima because he tried to find out about his past and they bond in the ambulance as she gives him a blood transfusion. OK episode. The bullriding stuff at the end is pretty funny and at one point Marge is counseling Homer with a big book of things white people shouldn't say about race that has some good jokes.
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i mean, if anyone likes season 1/2, hey more power to ya. we all like what we like. i was only trying to say that the show is so different compared to what it became and what people generally think of and love about the simpsons. even in this thread, how many times have you heard anyone wistfully recalling bart becoming a daredevil, or homer dancing with the stripper? hell, i'd argue that he different between 1/2 and 3-10 was immensely larger than 3-10 compared to what the show is now to me it's almost like saying "i'm a huge fan of family matters, but ESPECIALLY the episodes without that annoying urkel kid" Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:sometimes i think about the fact that if the show had ended when it should have it would have been rebooted at least once since then. i'm not sure if that would be better or worse how much worse can it get
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PostNouveau posted:In the new one, Carl meets a babe at the alley and they have a bowling themed first date. She owns a soul food restaurant, went to Howard, sings in a gospel choir, is in a Salt-n-Pepa cover band, and generally seems like what a bunch of white writers thing a successful black woman is like, just an accomplished pile of black activites. I had this thought looking at the preview image: "Huh, pair up the only black single guy in the show with a black lady who went to a historically black university. I wonder if they bothered to give her an identity beyond her race." And then I thought, "No, you're being a jerk. That's a really cynical thing to think from one image." Harvard writers. 
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Mr Interweb posted:even in this thread, how many times have you heard anyone wistfully recalling bart becoming a daredevil, or homer dancing with the stripper? Homer jumping Springfield Gorge might be the first iconic moment of the series.
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Mar 5, 2023 11:51
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The family therapy episode (which I think was the first one that aired on BBC in the UK) devolving into the whole family giving each other retaliatory electric shocks was hilarious and I'm chuckling again just thinking about it.
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Mar 5, 2023 13:44
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PostNouveau posted:In the new one, Carl meets a babe at the alley and they have a bowling themed first date. She owns a soul food restaurant, went to Howard, sings in a gospel choir, is in a Salt-n-Pepa cover band, and generally seems like what a bunch of white writers thing a successful black woman is like, just an accomplished pile of black [activities]. As a Black woman, uuuugh.  I guess bowling's the only non-stereotypical hobby she's allowed to have.edit: never too late to fix a typo YeahTubaMike fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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Mar 5, 2023 14:20
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YeahTubaMike posted:As a Black woman, uuuugh. It was her first time bowling ever. She does not get over the concept of renting shoes and is about to leave when Carl bribes the guy to open a new pair for her.
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Mar 5, 2023 15:31
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When I was re watching season one and two of the simpsons what struck me was how experimental the show could get and having these weird little subversive stories with genuinely cinematic storytelling. Those first two seasons are so ahead of their time.
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PostNouveau posted:It was her first time bowling ever. She does not get over the concept of renting shoes and is about to leave when Carl bribes the guy to open a new pair for her. So she literally has no non-stereotypical hobbies, great. I'm surprised they didn't name her Ebony or Noire or some poo poo, lol.
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YeahTubaMike posted:So she literally has no non-stereotypical hobbies, great. I'm surprised they didn't name her Ebony or Noire or some poo poo, lol.
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They should have made her really into anime
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I'm kind of afraid of how duckman would hold up but it was an amazing treasure of counterculture rants
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Rascar Capac posted:Homer jumping Springfield Gorge might be the first iconic moment of the series. Sure but how many times have you seen people bring it up?
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Mr Interweb posted:Sure but how many times have you seen people bring it up? At least once
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Win5nErh7zA I've just let my video server play The Simpsons from the beginning and the Tom Jones bit slayed me.
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