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Pigbuster posted:...huh. I've always assumed there was a benefit for adjacent resonances but it would make sense that it doesn't, and I don't think the game even implies it would, so I dunno where I got that from. Pattern recognition brain strikes again. No, the person is incorrect about Absolute: It does, in fact, actually require 3 adjacent. The reason you thought it would is because the game directly says so, tutorializes it, and has dedicated UI for it. One KNOWN difference between a Resonance and an Absolute is that normal (non-consecutive) Resonance bonuses stack up and only apply to the later coins in the combo. Absolute bonuses apply equally to every coin in the set. There are some parts of the code that aren't fully explored or understood yet: One is that it's possible that even though both kinds of Resonance use the same table for progressing at X number of resonance triggered, Absolutes likely have improved bonus behind the scenes that're obfuscated. RPATDO_LAMD posted:
One of which is that we don't actually know if the base success rate for coinflips (in the game) is 50%, or if it's even consistent between characters / coins. It may be higher, lower, independently determined per skill... There is currently no way of knowing other than extensive testing. RPATDO_LAMD posted:
Another note: Crits are actually 30% and can also trigger significant secondary effects for some skills.
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So... What's with the mirror world part of the side stories? I went to it and it just replayed the cutscene from uptying the IDs to max. Kinda disappointing really.
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Far as I can tell, the Mirror World is more or less for keeping track of which factions your identities fall into. Gotta admit, I was thinking there would be worldbuilding on those what-if scenarios as well, but there's none at the moment.
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how the gently caress would Demian being Enoch even work? The PM verse has a lot of things but reincarnation doesn't seem to be one of them. didn't Lisa-Tiph say that Angela let Enoch-Tiph rest in Ruina at some point?
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Personally I'm also not convinced by the Demian-Enoch theory. My guess is just that somebody in ProjMoon likes the book, so they put a reference to it in the first game, and then decided to also put it in the game where the main characters are all references to classic literature.
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i get the ice gauntlet from the end of chapter 2 in almost all of my mirror dungeons, and never the dreaming current aberration that it sounds like kills everyone else lol
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i'm neither complaining nor trying to jinx it but i'm basically breezing through mirror dungeons despite not having ch3 finished team liu good?
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if you've beaten ch2 you can basically snooze through mirrors with base identities, although max uptied 000/00s definitely help just don't bring reindeer ish. not worth it
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i discovered uptying immediately after people told me to hold button on sinners (lol) and yeah it makes all the difference in the City
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i'm just running Mariachi Sinclair in my main team even though their purple best-attack is not at ALL in our colors the Liu Buddies, Kurokomo Hong Lu, and either top left boring blade lineage or bottom left (heathcliff?) shi association depending on basically a ocin flip
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also, very nearly poo poo-all for EGO (gregor's got one, thanks to the monthly or whatever banner) e: lol you can pull MARIACHI BOSS in the mirror dungeon, oh no Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Google Jeb Bush posted:also, very nearly poo poo-all for EGO (gregor's got one, thanks to the monthly or whatever banner)
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Dang, how are people already up to Gregor's EGO on the BP? Massive mirror grinding or whaling out, I guess, since I've basically done all the dailies every day since release and have even done a fair few bonus mirror dungeons and I'm still only on like level 18.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Dang, how are people already up to Gregor's EGO on the BP? Massive mirror grinding or whaling out, I guess, since I've basically done all the dailies every day since release and have even done a fair few bonus mirror dungeons and I'm still only on like level 18. I think if people are efficient about turning their excess Enkephalin into Modules at every opportunity, and spending them all, they'd be there. Personally I have like 30-ish keys sitting around for when I want to binge some dungeons / farm Observation Levels, and I have not been super fastidious about key generation.
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Ariamaki posted:I think if people are efficient about turning their excess Enkephalin into Modules at every opportunity, and spending them all, they'd be there. Personally I have like 30-ish keys sitting around for when I want to binge some dungeons / farm Observation Levels, and I have not been super fastidious about key generation. I've been very efficient and have only stockpiled ~90 keys so far. At 3 per entry, that's ~30 runs, which works out to about 10 levels give or take. Should be plenty, yeah.
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You can purchase pass levels with paid lunacy, though I doubt that makes sense for most people Is there any abnormality compendium in the menus? I find that reading abnormality stories in the middle of battle really breaks the flow of the game, but I don't see any other way to do it
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Ariamaki posted:I think if people are efficient about turning their excess Enkephalin into Modules at every opportunity, and spending them all, they'd be there. Personally I have like 30-ish keys sitting around for when I want to binge some dungeons / farm Observation Levels, and I have not been super fastidious about key generation. There's a fella on reddit who says he ground dozens of hours of mirror dungeons to get all the way to the end of the battle pass with just 700 (free) lunacy worth of stamina refills, plus all the stamina you get from levelups and the bp itself.
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Man, some people truly can't handle delaying their gratification at all.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Dang, how are people already up to Gregor's EGO on the BP? Massive mirror grinding or whaling out, I guess, since I've basically done all the dailies every day since release and have even done a fair few bonus mirror dungeons and I'm still only on like level 18.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nukboii/status/1632356168403234816
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Verant posted:Far as I can tell, the Mirror World is more or less for keeping track of which factions your identities fall into. Gotta admit, I was thinking there would be worldbuilding on those what-if scenarios as well, but there's none at the moment. I really hope they add something like that eventually, and it just wasn't on the roadmap yet. That wouldn't surprise me, since it seems like Limbus Company is mostly fighting Urban Myth level people so far, in Ruina terms.
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Nagel und Hammer definitely have access to N corp's singularity though, based on what we know of it from Leviathan and Kromer having used it to see an alternate world where Sinclaire joined her.
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Fighting the last boss of Dungeon 3. Now this feels like a proper Ruina fight. Does Meursault's EGO lower the attack of all dice from a given enemy? I can more or less trigger it every turn, and -4 attack will be very helpful for the entire fight.
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Fat Samurai posted:Fighting the last boss of Dungeon 3. Now this feels like a proper Ruina fight.
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Is there any reason to get in fights you don't have to in a dungeon? I'm in my first one and I'm at something of a loss as to why not just take the shortest path.
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Quackles posted:Is there any reason to get in fights you don't have to in a dungeon? I'm in my first one and I'm at something of a loss as to why not just take the shortest path.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:There's a fella on reddit who says he ground dozens of hours of mirror dungeons to get all the way to the end of the battle pass with just 700 (free) lunacy worth of stamina refills, plus all the stamina you get from levelups and the bp itself. Say what you will about impending burnout, it's really kind of impressive that the pacing works out for that to be feasible at all. Barely half of a deca-extraction's worth of Lunacy and a major time investment, and boom there's your Bus Pass. Quackles posted:Is there any reason to get in fights you don't have to in a dungeon? I'm in my first one and I'm at something of a loss as to why not just take the shortest path. It can be worth doubling back to them for refilling SP after it gets tanked back to 0 at a mid-floor Checkpoint, you can get various Events and other bonuses, it helps fill out your Abnormality / Encounter logs for routing future runs, etc. Also the shortest route sometimes has the nastiest skill checks or the worst fights on it, whereas a more lengthy path can save you having to hit a big roadblock in return.
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I've noticed sometimes when you use an EGO on a Sinner getting targeted by multiple attacks, that it will use that exact same EGO on every single thing attacking them. Is that how it's meant to work because when it's used with an AoE EGO that does a a hell of a lot of damage very quickly.
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TheNabster posted:I've noticed sometimes when you use an EGO on a Sinner getting targeted by multiple attacks, that it will use that exact same EGO on every single thing attacking them. I'm pretty sure that's not how it's meant to work... Did it happen in the mirror dungeon with you having the coin EGO gift?
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Well, I would like to thank the kind souls who friended me for helping ne cross Chapter 2... except I hosed up by bringing a support LobCorp Faust to the dungeon, whose skills do not help fuel her EGO well and I need to fuel it for the final boss where otherwise between that and being almost unable to deal with the 11 on tails attacks I can't clear on time. So now I'm either stuck retrying until I clear or quit and comeback with a different support. Game really should have had the exp daily from the start because Offense is really important earlygame to make basic skills not suck and I'm the idiot who used gacha identities instead of levelling the base ones.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Well, I would like to thank the kind souls who friended me for helping ne cross Chapter 2... except I hosed up by bringing a support LobCorp Faust to the dungeon, whose skills do not help fuel her EGO well and I need to fuel it for the final boss where otherwise between that and being almost unable to deal with the 11 on tails attacks I can't clear on time. So now I'm either stuck retrying until I clear or quit and comeback with a different support.
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GilliamYaeger posted:You don't really need EGO on L Corp Faust when you have her skill 3. Her skill has the issue of only working on one enemy die at the time when the rest of my party can barely deal with easy 11s and I need to kill enemies ASAP, which her EGO helps with due to AOE.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Well, I would like to thank the kind souls who friended me for helping ne cross Chapter 2... except I hosed up by bringing a support LobCorp Faust to the dungeon, whose skills do not help fuel her EGO well and I need to fuel it for the final boss where otherwise between that and being almost unable to deal with the 11 on tails attacks I can't clear on time. So now I'm either stuck retrying until I clear or quit and comeback with a different support. I tested this the other day! You can still do normal mission nodes without losing your saved dungeon progress. So while it's less explosively effective than doing Mirror Dungeons you *can* actually grind for levels outside of the Dungeon.
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Ariamaki posted:I tested this the other day! You can still do normal mission nodes without losing your saved dungeon progress. So while it's less explosively effective than doing Mirror Dungeons you *can* actually grind for levels outside of the Dungeon. That's actually a good tip, thanks. I'd have to check what's the easiest level I can do with no supports (since the penalty for using a support is that character will not level).
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While W Corp Don can be a little inconsistent, especially in shorter battles, god drat but Rip Space hits like a fleet of trucks when you get it off. It’s wholesale deleted enemies without even reaching the last coin, and it swings at like 31 power (which the predictor doesn’t calculate correctly). Even against enemies that resist slashing, it’s so many high damage coins that it still rips massive chunks out of them.
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Well, I did it! Turns out replacing Don with Hong Lu for more Gloom was the key (because Faust EGO would just murder 2 mobs each wave which was massive to control the enemy dice). Now I can finally start with Mirror Dungeon and start levelling identities with the tickets. And I really should decide who to uptie for an easier time...
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The Lord of Hats posted:While W Corp Don can be a little inconsistent, especially in shorter battles, god drat but Rip Space hits like a fleet of trucks when you get it off. It’s wholesale deleted enemies without even reaching the last coin, and it swings at like 31 power (which the predictor doesn’t calculate correctly). Even against enemies that resist slashing, it’s so many high damage coins that it still rips massive chunks out of them. Yeah, this is a broad rule for the game as a whole: Because the predictor only checks your odds of winning the very first coin-clash in the entire process of clashing, it often misinterprets the potential of a LOT of attacks as much lower than they are player-side, while more rarely overestimating your success. Just as an example, if your 4-coin attack only has to get two heads (oo**) to beat their single-coin attack on its tails flip (o) (and just for pessimism let's say you cannot beat the heads flip at all), the predictor will probably call that Struggling or Hopeless since you can't ever beat the topend... even though you actually have 3 chances to get the situation to align (either oo**, o**, or ** on the first three clashes), and they have to beat all of those running odds while you only need to win one time to break their singular coin. GiantRockFromSpace posted:Well, I did it! Turns out replacing Don with Hong Lu for more Gloom was the key (because Faust EGO would just murder 2 mobs each wave which was massive to control the enemy dice). Huzzah! I am glad that you got through it without too much trouble: As for Upties, let me know what 00 Identities you have and I can offer my advice there: I think especially when you're getting started, the uptie cost on 000s can be prohibitive when you could get two different 00s maxed for the same Threadcount.
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