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Well if that old native couple can find enough food to be obese, the people at the resort aren't trying hard enough.
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I just assumed Joel murdered everyone else at the resort offscreen. He was on a rampage
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navyjack posted:The big set piece zombie fights we fun as hell, especially when you had to use strategy and resources to get through, but they would be dull as poo poo to watch except on rare occasion for spectacle. The way they survived that fight seemed more lucky than Ellie just being a brutal killer which is more of the point of the story in the game.
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Mar 6, 2023 05:51
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Searched the thread for the word "pipe" and, well, there must be a lot of satisfied viewers after tonight.
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Mar 6, 2023 05:52
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I never got the impression from the game that the cultists were unaware of the cannibalism, and was surprised when that was the angle they went with here.
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Mar 6, 2023 06:04
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aight idc about spoilers. episode was good, but this one thing's kinda bugging me. Are the different people commenting on how Ellie is a "clever and natural leader" an artifact from dialogue in the games where you control her, or is the show fumbling on actually depicting that part?
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lezard_valeth posted:aight idc about spoilers. episode was good, but this one thing's kinda bugging me. no, and i don’t understand why it’s come up in two episodes tbh she never leads poo poo, her people are constantly telling her she’s loving up and doing the wrong thing, and the second game ends with her utterly alone, having thrown away a decent life for the chase of vengeance
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Mar 6, 2023 06:11
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Not really, no. The exchange in the game is shorter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxAr8yjNmiw&t=798s In the game Ellie and David have to fend off some zombies together while they're in the woods, so there's some rapport building there before things go south. e: forgot how much better the cinematography was in the game compared to the show.
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Mar 6, 2023 06:14
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Excellent episode. I was expecting it to water down the game's violence a bit, but nope, if anything that was more ferocious than the game version. I know that goon said he didn't care about spoilers but lmao
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Mar 6, 2023 06:15
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Yeah, those bits about leadership didn't work for me either. In the games the closest thing Ellie has to a follower is Dina, and she's really her girlfriend. And Riley is the one who leads in that relationship.
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Mar 6, 2023 06:16
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Mantis42 posted:e: forgot how much better the cinematography was in the game compared to the show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsWwbg6CGv8&t=65s yep
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We're going into the finale with no Joel brick murders or did I miss it?
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Madurai posted:I never got the impression from the game that the cultists were unaware of the cannibalism, and was surprised when that was the angle they went with here. Not played the games but in this episode it kinda felt like the adults were aware that they weren’t really eating venison. Like when the butcher brought out the meat and the woman asks what it was, the way she looked at him gave me “I know you’re full of poo poo but I’m going to pretend like you’re not full of poo poo, but you know that I know” vibes. Liked the episode but the ending was really weird to me. Like, why did not a single person notice the fire and go investigate? Or smell the smoke? Or hear all the screaming and thrashing sounds before that?
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Mar 6, 2023 06:53
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Ellie leads the quest to Seattle in Part 2, which sure is a pretty small crew but is ultimately the crux of that game's story. Establishing her here as someone who can get people to listen makes sense if they want to pay that off in Part 2.
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Ellie has a lot of traits that you would want in a leader that you can’t really teach as much. She’s smart, quick on her feet, not afraid to say or do something that will piss people off because it’s the right thing to do, and will do whatever is necessary for the people she cares for. What she doesn’t have are the leader skills; and general social skills, that can be taught. She is very good at reading people though. If I was a teacher I’d probably see the potential of a leader in her as well. Though yes she also has major trust issues which would also hurt her ability to be a leader. Which makes what happens with her and Joel more tragic, as Joel betrays her trust, the only person she felt she could trust. theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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The major in Boston also wants Ellie for the officer corps.
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Mar 6, 2023 07:35
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Ely killing the voice of game Joel with a cleaver to the neck is not something I expected! Awesome!
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I think he meant it in more of you’re a wolf and not a sheep type of way.
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This episode went for it on the map and machete scenes. It's established that Joel is brutal when desperate and Ellie under threat makes him desperate. Teaser for next week has Fireflies introducing themselves to Joel with a flashbang? Lmao. And Joel firing a weird rifle, like a modded SMG or something, through a hospital like he means it. Whatever the gun is I bet he pulled it off a dead Firefly. Lookin good 👍
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I thought they killed it this episode although it was weird to see such an infected heavy part of the game with zero infected.
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Alhazred posted:Literally 99,99% percent of science in movies and tv shows are bullshit, so why is this where you draw the line? to be fair, Crichton literally got the plot idea from The Extinct DNA Study Group at Berkeley, a bunch of nerds geeking out over the possibility of extracting ancient DNA from insects trapped in amber. I mean, obviously it didn't work out the way the novels and movies claim, otherwise some crazy capitalist absolutely would've made a Jurassic Park or two by this point
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Mar 6, 2023 08:22
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people who watch the preview clip for next week's episode of any show are not to be trusted. just wait lol
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Posting "don't talk about the end" and "people have argued about it for 10 years" in the no spoiler thread is bona-fide good intentions gone bad. Prime Joel move.
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Alhazred posted:It's the last bit of pure joy you'll get in the game. I deeply enjoyed setting traps and blowing up everyone . Also that part where you can let the clickers loose on the rattlers. Thanks clicker for saving me some ammo 🙏
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Every time Wolves chased me into a gloomy, spore filled area: "oh hell yeah, where's my bottle?" *gleeful carnage ensues* I regret nothing, those guys were suckas anyway. Couldn't even handle a couple of clickers.
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That one part after you threw Nora down and the wolves come for you I don’t think I did anything for 2 mins. I just let the clickers and runners do the work and cleaned up the rest. I loved killin so much in the game. I never stealth and I spared no one!
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My fave trick is to feed wolves/scars to clickers. And if you're quick and shoot a runner in the leg you can do the same thing with them as well. You can also use a brick/bottle, but those things are so useful that I'd rather save them as a get-out-of-jail card rather than a way to disrupt a crowd.
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Seven Round Things posted:I know that goon said he didn't care about spoilers but lmao we’re literally in the spoiler thread
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CelticPredator posted:That one part after you threw Nora down and the wolves come for you I don’t think I did anything for 2 mins. I just let the clickers and runners do the work and cleaned up the rest. I feel guilty for saying it, given the main themes and all but yeah, killing the gently caress out of things was super satisfying in Part II. That dope af move where you can just leap off high ground and come crashing down to one shot bury your machete/whatever in some gormless twerp below was just beautiful. Ditto picking people off with the bow, Abby punching the gently caress out of anything in her way like a human wrecking ball, it was hella fun to play and even though I have a miserable pile of shame to clear through, I still just kinda want to go back to playing it again instead.
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I thought this episode started strong, certainly a big improvement over last week's retro romance fantasy diversion. The cult leader was a great character presented as someone with genuine heart and empathy but also struggling with self-doubt and burdened by the weight of decisions made to keep his flock alive. Of course by the end he transmorphed into a literal cliche sadist and pederast straight from central casting in the span of about 3 minutes, and my eyes were rolling through the back of my head. What's wrong with portraying antagonists as complex self-interested characters instead of cartoon villains? 🙄
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Internaut! posted:I thought this episode started strong, certainly a big improvement over last week's retro romance fantasy diversion. The cult leader was a great character presented as someone with genuine heart and empathy but also struggling with self-doubt and burdened by the weight of decisions made to keep his flock alive. (Man backhands newly orphaned child and proclaims himself her new daddy, sitting next to her mother after she’s served a plate of said dead spouse) This poster: “see, this guy is on the level!”
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fosborb posted:*costumes the antagonist with a simple gold ring with a flat face and focus on it for awhile while reading scripture* Soul Glo posted:(Man backhands newly orphaned child and proclaims himself her new daddy, sitting next to her mother after she’s served a plate of said dead spouse) It was a fine episode but dude, you did not achieve that
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Lisztless posted:I laughed out loud at the post-episode review (which are always trash and but I like behind-the-scenes stuff) where Mazin said something like "I wanted the audience to think he's a good person until we reveal that he's a cannibal" I mean, I was replying to someone who DID think David was a decent dude until he went “cartoonishly” evil. Most people are incredibly bad at digesting media while they are consuming it, so maybe Mazin actually accomplished his goal there.
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Soul Glo posted:(Man backhands newly orphaned child and proclaims himself her new daddy, sitting next to her mother after she’s served a plate of said dead spouse) See I thought a preacher slapping a member of their congregation who's clamouring for the murder of another was light years removed from a guy covered in blood crawling around in a burning room explaining how he's going to rape and murder a child, but I guess that's because I'm not an expert media digester like you. Kudos on that btw!
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Internaut! posted:See I thought a preacher slapping a member of their congregation who's clamouring for the murder of another was light years removed from a guy covered in blood crawling around in a burning room explaining how he's going to rape and murder a child, but I guess that's because I'm not an expert media digester like you. “I am your new daddy. Eat your old daddy, he’s getting cold,” is pretty consistent with a rape and murder characterization
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It's hilarious that literally every time you see a devout Christian preacher in media you know he's secretly evil
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Internaut! posted:See I thought a preacher slapping a member of their congregation who's clamouring for the murder of another was light years removed from a guy covered in blood crawling around in a burning room explaining how he's going to rape and murder a child, but I guess that's because I'm not an expert media digester like you. Are we watching the same show because I saw in order:
The scenes with him and Ellie where he's trying to compliment and manipulate her start off weird until he tries to hold her hand then you realize that he's a pedophile and a sadist that only kept her alive to subjugate and rape her because he gets off on violence and dominating others. It's all very clearly telegraphed and the podcast clearly supports the above reading that David immediately wants to possess and dominate Ellie because she is someone he has not broken yet. Saltpowered fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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precision posted:It's hilarious that literally every time you see a devout Christian preacher in media you know he's secretly evil found the guy who didn't watch The Leftovers
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precision posted:It's hilarious that literally every time you see a devout Christian preacher in media you know he's secretly evil I want to see the MASH spinoff where Father Mulcahy starts a cult. Of course he did turn out to be a shapeshifter so we knew he couldn't be trusted around solids
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precision posted:It's hilarious that literally every time you see a devout Christian preacher in media you know he's secretly evil I like how in the Walking dead instead of going with a pedophile or someone obsessed with Gods will to the point of evil acts he was just a coward who locked everyone out of the church to get eaten by zombies
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