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PIZZA.BAT posted:alright that's fine. i took issue with the, 'if you still need meds after...' part of your statement. if exercise and meditation are able to get you out of adhd then you likely didn't have adhd in the first place. ADHD varies in severity, dont really understand why you'd say that after accosting me for being insensitive and invalidating. quote:the way you phrased it makes it sound like you can be on the meds for a bit, get your life in order, then jump back off again. My point was that it is possible to use the meds as a means to build lasting habits and structure your life in a way that you maybe dont need the meds. This isnt possible at your job I get that, but for some the meds are such a double edged that trying to find a way is important. Uriah Heep fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Uriah Heep posted:ADHD varies in severity, dont really understand why you'd say that after accosting me for being insensitive and invalidating. CBT LOL COCK AND BALL TORTURE start going to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, all goons. Period.
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MrQwerty posted:Carbamazepine was on the DO NOT INTERACT EVER list and I loving hated it with all my soul. That's a drug I'm less familiar with, but I'm guessing your experience is not all that rare since my impression is that it is prescribed way less than it used to be. It seems like lamotrigine has become the most preferred of drugs in that area, with depakote still getting prescribed, too. I don't know anyone taking carbamazepine currently, but do know people taking the latter two. I don't know for sure (I'm not a doctor or pharmacist), but I think the balance of side effects often drives shifts in prescribing over time.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:That's a drug I'm less familiar with, but I'm guessing your experience is not all that rare since my impression is that it is prescribed way less than it used to be. It seems like lamotrigine has become the most preferred of drugs in that area, with depakote still getting prescribed, too. I don't know anyone taking carbamazepine currently, but do know people taking the latter two. I don't know for sure (I'm not a doctor or pharmacist), but I think the balance of side effects often drives shifts in prescribing over time. Carb and lamotrigine are drat near the same thing, and the main things are don't drink grapefruit juice and if you go out in the sun and see a rash that shouldn't be there your skin is gonna fall off like Manute Bol anyway cya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevens%E2%80%93Johnson_syndrome The most common cause is certain medications such as lamotrigine, carbamazepine, allopurinol, sulfonamide antibiotics and nevirapine. MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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MrQwerty posted:CBT Yeah I already started looking around after you first mentioned it. Appreciate it my dude. I hate browsing therapists though drat, stressful.
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MrQwerty posted:CBT I feel I'm making solid progress with CBT but mindfulness is hard to learn.
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MrQwerty posted:Carb and lamotrigine are drat near the same thing, and the main things are don't drink grapefruit juice and if you go out in the sun and see a rash that shouldn't be there your skin is gonna fall off like Manute Bol anyway cya Yeah, Stevens-Johnson is one of those nightmare side effects to be aware of. I took lamotrigine for years and it was something I kept in the back of my mind as something to watch out for. The best thing about that whole period was it was prescribed due to a misdiagnosis. I took so many meds that just resulted in side effects for no good reason. Now with correct diagnosis and appropriate meds I'm doing much better.
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Jelly posted:I feel I'm making solid progress with CBT but mindfulness is hard to learn. Listen to some poo poo like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7KaSGy0mU do some new poo poo
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Jelly posted:In that new show on Apple+ "Shrinking" the name of the therapy center is specified as CBT and I thought that was kind of cool. Actually it’s easy OP. When one TRIES it is certainly difficult. I recommend keeping with the path.
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Trying, with desperation, to pass through a peacefully open door.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc-NIGzUmEM meditations
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nom epique posted:Actually it’s easy OP. When one TRIES it is certainly difficult. I recommend keeping with the path.
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my doctor, not my current doctor but back when I was with kaiser, had me buy this book, "Mastering Your Adult ADHD: A Cognitive-Behavioral Treatment Program". you can probably find a pdf copy free on the internet. it's part of a bigger program, but if you haven't taken a look at the cognitive side of ADHD treatment, it's worth a look at least to get a base understanding of the shape of things one of the things about adult ADHD is that, if you get diagnosed with it, that means you had it as a child and it just wasn't caught, and as you got older you probably appeared to become less symptomatic, but you didn't actually get better, you just got better at hiding it. that means maladaptive coping mechanisms, which is exactly the kind of thing cognitive-behavioral therapy is designed to help address- untangling the distortions of adapting around something, and building healthier neural pathways in their place medication is, of course, an important part of treatment. I shouldn't have to say this, but I guess I do. it says this in the book, too. from my understanding, adderall (for instance) helps kickstart frontal lobe activity, which is in charge of your executive functioning. but, yeah, it's not a cure. the thing I hear again and again is that if you have ADHD, that means your attention is interest-based rather than priority-based. adderall can help stop you from breaking your focus, but it can't make you focus your attention on things that require it, and it can't undo maladaptive coping mechanisms. and that's where cbt and lifestyle changes come in- this bit blew my mind the first time we went over it:   because it's just describing so many psychological mechanisms that I'd been dimly aware of myself falling into, usually as a precursor to inaction or giving up on something that I understood intellectually should have been a priority but couldn't force myself to focus on like... your brain doesn't want to admit there's something wrong with it, so you start coming up with excuses to avoid having to confront the reality that there's something it should be able to do and can't, and over time you get really, really good at it. that's how I see my experience, anyway. and this is practically a list of every excuse and rationalization I ever made to avoid having to confront the reality that I couldn't force myself to focus my attention on something important (or even something that I wanted to do, because I cared about it) if it wasn't prima facie interesting to me
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Cubone posted:one of the things about adult ADHD is that, if you get diagnosed with it, that means you had it as a child and it just wasn't caught, and as you got older you probably appeared to become less symptomatic, but you didn't actually get better, you just got better at hiding it. that means maladaptive coping mechanisms, which is exactly the kind of thing cognitive-behavioral therapy is designed to help address- untangling the distortions of adapting around something, and building healthier neural pathways in their place I just wanted to snip this out because it is very, very true. It's true about other stuff in addition to ADHD, but is especially true with ADHD. It doesn't help that ADHD as an umbrella includes things that look very different - hyperactive type ADHD looks way different than inattentive type, for instance. It's one reason why girls tended to be underdiagnosed because they were more likely to experience inattentive type, so people didn't know what they were looking because they were expecting hyperactive type.
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It's probably best that I can't get the magic beans.
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Huh I've had all of those symptoms in college and all I got out of it were some antidepressants that broke my dick lol
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My mom doesn't believe in medication I was absolutely tested though. Got put in the advanced courses instead. Whoops turns out that didn't work
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Treecko posted:My mom doesn't believe in medication
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Private Cumshoe posted:speed should be sold like the old days with a wink and a nod from the pharmacist behind the counter for anyone looking for "diet pills" Here's a photo of The Beatles during their Hamburg stint, absolutely hosed from years of Pervitin abuse: 
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:Pharmacies all across the US are out of Adderall and some orders have been on back order for months. Oddly nobody even really knows why (there's talk of demand being up because of telehealth diagnoses during the pandemic, but the pandemic's been on the wane for over a year, feels odd for it to be impacting the supply chain now), and nobody's doing anything about it! The smaller, non-chain pharmacy in my moms town had it. But I feel it is bullshit that we, the patients, have to call around. I have it now. There are a couple of factories that make it that supposedly have not been able to hire enough workers to make their allowed amount, since the DEA limits the amount manufacturers are allowed to make. They probably are refusing to increase wages while being giant assholes to employees, although that last part is just speculation. Alternatives mostly suck, if they work at all (I’m looking at you, Stratera, you lying mother-fucker).
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XYZAB posted:Here's a photo of The Beatles during their Hamburg stint, absolutely hosed from years of Pervitin abuse: at first I was like why is there a weird eyebrow tattoo cult but I guess it's the same person??
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I was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid and prescribed Ritalin. I hated taking it and my parents loved taking it so I didn't use it from the time I was 8. By the time I was 19 I refused to go get the prescription for Ritalin anymore because both my parents were hooked. 25 years later I'd like to be able to go get some adderall and see if it helps me these days.
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Private Cumshoe posted:at first I was like why is there a weird eyebrow tattoo cult but I guess it's the same person?? That looks like Multnomah County's "Faces of Meth" campaign.
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Tarkus posted:I was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid and prescribed Ritalin. I hated taking it and my parents loved taking it so I didn't use it from the time I was 8. By the time I was 19 I refused to go get the prescription for Ritalin anymore because both my parents were hooked. jesus.
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STABASS posted:lotta complaints itt but I bet none of you have even TRIED the healing power of prayer??? Didn't work for my mom's horse. Won't work for my addiction.
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I wisely never sought professional help for my obvious brain problems, so I will be unaffected
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the holy poopacy posted:I wisely never sought professional help for my obvious brain problems, so I will be unaffected 
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Cubone posted:my doctor, not my current doctor but back when I was with kaiser, had me buy this book, "Mastering Your Adult ADHD: A Cognitive-Behavioral Treatment Program". you can probably find a pdf copy free on the internet. Yo thanks for this, I'm a recent adhd diagnosis and while drugs are working great I really wanna tackle the underlying stuff that accumulated over 36 years of it being untreated. Downloaded a sample already!
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MrQwerty posted:CBT street drugs are cheaper, and in most situations more accessible
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I’ve contemplated getting assessed here but I have a feeling it’ll just be some ridiculous bureaucratic hell because this country already has a bad relationship with the idea of drugs doing something positive for you, having to contend with needing them legally sounds like a nightmare. Took me far too long to get Wellbutrin, though when I did it was easy as “I finally had a woman doctor who listened and understood wanting to enjoy sex and sleeping”. Less than ten min, prescription done. Meanwhile prior male doctors I had here would just drown me in loving SSRIs even when I stated that the side effects are defeating the point of taking it. If I can’t have sex or sleep well, that makes me depressed. why am I just fueling that. I’m just depressed in a new way. They ignored my previous American prescription for Wellbutrin, one even stated that “it just doesn’t exist in Sweden” when I knew he just didn’t bother to look. mental health!!!!!!!
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teen witch posted:I’ve contemplated getting assessed here but I have a feeling it’ll just be some ridiculous bureaucratic hell because this country already has a bad relationship with the idea of drugs doing something positive for you, having to contend with needing them legally sounds like a nightmare. This mod fucks 
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lil poopendorfer posted:This mod fucks Hell fuckin yeah, take antidepressants that let you gently caress, double antidepressants
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I don't know I keep meaning to ask my doctor about a possible prescription for something similar but I'm bad at scheduling and sticking to tasks for some reason.
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I just take a second car payment worth of Vyvanse.
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Astrochicken posted:what this nation needs, is, subtracterall If you mix Adderall and subtracterall you will explode, like those people in the live action comedy Live Wire starring Pierce Brosnan
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It’s great I’m pressing caffeine to look like adderall and selling them to youths
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In September or October, my pharmacist gave me a partial refill of 30 out of 90 tablets. It was some dark blue pill from a brand I'd never heard of before. I haven't been able to get a refill since then. It costs me $150 to get a doctor to call a refill in to a pharmacy, and if that pharmacy doesn't have it, then I have to do another $150 video conference with my doctor to get them to call and try another pharmacy. Pharmacies won't tell you if they have it in stock since it's a controlled substance. I've been taking this medicine for most of my life and this shortage hosed me up p. hard.
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teen witch posted:Hell fuckin yeah, take antidepressants that let you gently caress, double antidepressants I couldn't cum on Wellbutrin.
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Saalkin posted:I do not need any pills I am of perfectly sound mind and body this op. however, i also live outside the united states
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