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Ralph Hurley posted:KISS was something I saw images of as a kid in the 80s way before I heard their music. My impression was they were something from the recent past which I assumed was an evil sounding heavy metal act. Then they started appearing on MTV doing a comeback with no makeup and songs like this The 80s were not good for KISS. Except for Gene because he got to bang Cher and married Shannon Tweed KISS was a big part of the Satanic Panic in the 80s. Knights In Satan's Service Gene dressing up like a strange Batman and throwing up blood and spitting fire didn't help. Then there's his tongue.
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Bonzo posted:The 80s were not good for KISS. Truth. The disco song (still they're biggest hit) and the solo albums killed what little credibility they had and turned off the hardcore fan base who moved on to poo poo like Judas Priest and Motley Crue, who were far better bands. By the 80's, they had become a band that was largely aimed at kids; or at least that's what their audience eventually consisted of by that time, and for good reason. They worked hard and sold out every chance they got but they were never that talented to begin with and, miraculously, never managed to get better as song writers or the ONE thing that was supposedly the central element of their medium. Playing actual rock and roll music. Their fans eventually grew up and the shock value and novelty of it eventually wore off but for a while it was wild and a lot of fun. At least to my 10 year old self. If I had to, I could cobble together a playlist of KISS songs that would range from passable to good (with two or three genuine bangers in there) but they were always about the spectacle, the image and the cash register more than actually being any good and they didn't seem to care much so long as their bank accounts were filled. They don't have much in the way of artistic integrity or talent but they had a hell of a work ethic - Gene and Paul in particular. I'd argue that Howard has far more talent for his chosen field than KISS ever did but the similarities surrounding how they both got to where they did are ringing out for me when I think of this interview. Speaking of Judas Priest, they opened when I saw KISS in 1980 and that's how I learned about them. They could play circles around KISS but none of the 13 year old kids in the audience (which was 80% of it if you count their parents) gave a poo poo. We wanted to see lasers and fireworks and poo poo with easy sing alongs. I have a picture of me dressed as Ace for Halloween when I was that age that I'll post if I can dig it up. My mom did a GREAT job on my make up.
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That’s the Love Gun costume right? Sal got his rear end kicked by Puerto Rican kids when he wore that to school.
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The funniest thing about KISS is that just like Metallica they tried to regain credibility by doing an terrible album with Lou Reed that everyone forgets. Did Lou ever do the show?
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This man has absolutely masturbated to Hostel 2. We were talking about Howard being unlikeable awhile ago, and I was just thinking about that time he freaked out about the plugs at the end of the show, and he either cut or severely shortened everyone's plugs to a few seconds each. I mean, say what you want about Bob Levy (Jeffrey Dahmer with a joke book lol), but he did a lot of heavy lifting for the show, especially during the first few years of the Sirius run, and having his "payment" cut because Howard wanted the wrap up show to start 30 seconds earlier was pretty cunty.
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DangerDummy! posted:We were talking about Howard being unlikeable awhile ago, and I was just thinking about that time he freaked out about the plugs at the end of the show, and he either cut or severely shortened everyone's plugs to a few seconds each. I mean, say what you want about Bob Levy (Jeffrey Dahmer with a joke book lol), but he did a lot of heavy lifting for the show, especially during the first few years of the Sirius run, and having his "payment" cut because Howard wanted the wrap up show to start 30 seconds earlier was pretty cunty. That was one of those weird things where Howard undervalued him while he overvalued himself. Bob's freakout is kind of a fun listen because he overreacts while Howard gets super high and mighty and both come out looking like poo poo. One of those rare times when Artie is the voice of reason telling both to just chill out and take value from each other.
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Lifespan posted:That was one of those weird things where Howard undervalued him while he overvalued himself. Bob's freakout is kind of a fun listen because he overreacts while Howard gets super high and mighty and both come out looking like poo poo. One of those rare times when Artie is the voice of reason telling both to just chill out and take value from each other. That's a really great read on the situation. Bob really did deserve better. He could be very funny sometimes, but his real value to the show was being sad sack loser, and anyone in that capacity in the Stern universe just gets used up until they get tossed aside for a newer, shinier toy. My birthday show from year one is next. It's got Misty the Hooker and loving Janice Dickinson. Sounds like an absolute blast. I swear he had that wretched skank on once a year to talk about how she hosed Stallone. e: What was Sal's big HR fuckup that they wouldn't talk about on the show? It was between jerking off at work and the apology prank. They were talking about the apology prank being strike three for him or something, then they alluded to something he did...I know I've heard it somewhere, but I'm not remembering it. DangerDummy! fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Mar 2, 2023 |
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DangerDummy! posted:What was Sal's big HR fuckup that they wouldn't talk about on the show? It was between jerking off at work and the apology prank. They were talking about the apology prank being strike three for him or something, then they alluded to something he did...I know I've heard it somewhere, but I'm not remembering it. +1. I don't know if they ever said what it was, but even Gary didn't know until the apology thing so it was something heavy. I'm not sure if that ever came out, though I would assume it would be something with the interns.
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Mar 2, 2023 07:21
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It was brought up on Reddit by someone who goes super deep into Stern show lore, and they outlined the whole thing iirc. I'm not about to plumb those depths, though. Something so inappropriate that they're not willing to clown on loving Sal... That's gotta get real weird.
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Remulak posted:The funniest thing about KISS is that just like Metallica they tried to regain credibility by doing an terrible album with Lou Reed that everyone forgets. I seem to recall Lou Reed hating the show because either Howard yelled at him at an event, and they never made up before Lou passed.
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DangerDummy! posted:e: What was Sal's big HR fuckup that they wouldn't talk about on the show? It was between jerking off at work and the apology prank. They were talking about the apology prank being strike three for him or something, then they alluded to something he did...I know I've heard it somewhere, but I'm not remembering it. The one piece that seems to be reliable is that it involved an intern, and was a sexual harassment type of accusation. It's likely speculation and unfounded but one person claimed that he sniffed a chair that an intern had been sitting in. Knowing Sal, it does fit.
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quote:Bob really did deserve better. He could be very funny sometimes, but his real value to the show was being sad sack loser, and anyone in that capacity in the Stern universe just gets used up until they get tossed aside for a newer, shinier toy. Bob was completely delusional. Also he kept screaming about how he never went on any other shows and was keeping all this "incredible" material for Stern but that was a complete lie, he was appearing pretty regularly on a real lovely show up here in Albany at the same time.
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Sand Monster posted:The one piece that seems to be reliable is that it involved an intern, and was a sexual harassment type of accusation. It's likely speculation and unfounded but one person claimed that he sniffed a chair that an intern had been sitting in. Knowing Sal, it does fit. So the chair sniffing thing was different from what I understood. The HR thing they never talked about was also related to an intern...and I think he showed a female intern his cock in the back office. haljordan posted:Bob was completely delusional. Also he kept screaming about how he never went on any other shows and was keeping all this "incredible" material for Stern but that was a complete lie, he was appearing pretty regularly on a real lovely show up here in Albany at the same time. What Bob, and to a certain extent Greg Fitzsimmons, never fully grasped was the shows they were given could have literally been nothing more then an infomercial for their comedy dates, website, merch etc.. Howard gifted Bob hours of time on Sirius to do basically whatever the gently caress he wanted, including promote his firehouse shows. Mr Lance Murdock fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Mar 2, 2023 |
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Mr Lance Murdock posted:So the chair sniffing thing was different from what I understood. The HR thing they never talked about was also related to an intern...and I think he showed a female intern his cock in the back office. Wow. That they didn't fire him for that is very surprising.
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Sand Monster posted:Wow. That they didn't fire him for that is very surprising. If it was defended under the guise of "we were prepping for a bit" then I could see how it would get overlooked. I dont defend Sal anytime ever, but when the show is living on bits called "guess whats in my pouch" and "Cock-aoke" the lines probably get very blurry in the back office(s)
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I thought Sal got in deep poo poo with HR after a female intern was going into the bathroom and he said something like "Hey there's no TP in there but you can use my tongue if you like."
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haljordan posted:I thought Sal got in deep poo poo with HR after a female intern was going into the bathroom and he said something like "Hey there's no TP in there but you can use my tongue if you like." That was absolutely something he got in trouble for, but no serious repercussions were given. It was said once, almost quickly on the show as one of many examples of Sal’s stupidity. And just to bring it full circle regarding KISS, but specifically Gene Simmons, the 80s (and most of the 90s) were not good to them… as expressed by the sad, desperate cameo Gene made in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSPCs8GUYNE (bonus Gilbert footage!)
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haljordan posted:I thought Sal got in deep poo poo with HR after a female intern was going into the bathroom and he said something like "Hey there's no TP in there but you can use my tongue if you like." That's the one I was thinking of. Mr Lance Murdock posted:What Bob, and to a certain extent Greg Fitzsimmons, never fully grasped was the shows they were given could have literally been nothing more then an infomercial for their comedy dates, website, merch etc.. This is very true, but Howard tantruming over a 15 second plug during a part of the show no one listens to was pretty lousy. Bob should've been smart enough to just eat the poo poo sandwich and move on, but Bob wasn't a show regular because he's smart and well thought out. It was a crap thing to do, whether Bob overreacted or not.
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DangerDummy! posted:he's smart and well thought out 
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Yell like pee
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He went to Heedeeonisym
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Cliche Guevara posted:That was absolutely something he got in trouble for, but no serious repercussions were given. It was said once, almost quickly on the show as one of many examples of Sal’s stupidity. This video played at least once on Headbangers Ball. In fact, I remember it because it was 12:52AM (the last, and not greatest slot) and I was happy to see something Stern related. I never saw it again And speaking of stupid KISS songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybmEK64OkjA
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Cliche Guevara posted:That was absolutely something he got in trouble for, but no serious repercussions were given. It was said once, almost quickly on the show as one of many examples of Sal’s stupidity. I got a minute in and it felt like four minutes, I almost choked when I saw there was like 3 minutes left. This song and the video are so extremely bad lol
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Leeszr lambignelly
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Bonzo posted:This video played at least once on Headbangers Ball. In fact, I remember it because it was 12:52AM (the last, and not greatest slot) and I was happy to see something Stern related. I never saw it again That record contract and video is a good argument for Stern being the most powerful entertainment figure of the 1990s.
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kylej posted:That record contract and video is a good argument for Stern being the most powerful entertainment figure of the 1990s. Seriously, I laughed when I read the tag and saw Stuttering John was published by Atlantic Records? WTF?
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On second read I may have phrased that incorrectly lol
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DangerDummy! posted:On second read I may have phrased that incorrectly lol You may not have represented yourself properly on how you wanted to explain yourself.
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Lifespan posted:You may not have represented yourself properly on how you wanted to explain yourself. He should request traction
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BiggerBoat posted:He should request traction I'm still waiting on my traction.
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DangerDummy! posted:There's a way to do it where it's at least palatable. She just dumped it in the frying pan while she frying it up so that it got all blackened up by the time it was done. Lady was a mutant, I dunno what else to say about it. Super late, but why not just use brown sugar and make candied bacon? That poo poo's awesome. Also, incredibly unhealthy.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I'm still waiting on my traction. I want to be the traction broker. Mods, can you put a traction in the OP's post?
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So...how's Howard's note to Tom Sizemore coming along?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/howardstern/comments/11k1614/howard_probably_wears_shower_shoes_in_his_own/ What in the gently caress is that outfit.
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kylej posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/howardstern/comments/11k1614/howard_probably_wears_shower_shoes_in_his_own/ If it came out that Ralph's "stylist" work over the years has been an elaborate, well orchestrated long con hoax, it could arguably be the greatest hoax ever achieved.
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kylej posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/howardstern/comments/11k1614/howard_probably_wears_shower_shoes_in_his_own/ Legit thought that was Ralph for a second. Beth's face is "Oh God how much longer is he gonna live"
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SiriusXM cutting 8% of their workforce. Any idea how much staff Howard has now? I wonder if they are protected.
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Two Kings posted:SiriusXM cutting 8% of their workforce. Any idea how much staff Howard has now? I wonder if they are protected. I think they're in the 60-70 range, give or take, which is baffling. It's rumored that his staff is paid as part of Howard's contract; e.g. if he earns $100M per year then every expense for his channel (wages, etc.) is taken from that amount. It's also rumored that many of the staff were reduced out of FTE roles with the last contract renewal, losing health benefits etc. as a result. Supposedly that's why Shuli left -- they wanted him to take a reduced role and at a significant reduction in salary, effectively becoming a contractor without included health insurance and the like.
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