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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/skazal_on/status/1632839925195325443 I wonder if Strelkov would ever choose to modify or change his flag to look like that, though he sees Wagner and by extension anything they make as beneath contempt, so there it is
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 21:50 |
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GABA ghoul posted:I just want to add that the subtitles omit her saying "... despite being poisoned a lot" after praising the Russian gene pool. I assume it refers to miscegenation/race mixing. What a piece of poo poo. She IS the Russian Elon musk!
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 21:53 |
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/skazal_on/status/1632839925195325443 The flag looks like a badly cropped image... my little brain is asking what the full picture looks like.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 21:56 |
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That's the worst looking neo-Confederate flag variant I've seen yet. yes i know its the flag of novorossiya
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 21:57 |
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Defmon update for the day: https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1632832960453038080?t=UXgUfzQZ9PFd_2P89Zta3w&s=19 Overview and weather: https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1632833003146694661?t=pg3DUD3pO_Rj-uRgfPxohA&s=19 Maps! https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1632833061976002565?t=6vwBFnUPyNDYWiPlqQy4Kw&s=19
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 21:57 |
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I just don't see a scenario where Ukraine ever has control over Donbas and Crimea again for the foreseeable future
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 21:58 |
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Blitz of 404 Error posted:I just don't see a scenario where Ukraine ever has control over Donbas and Crimea again for the foreseeable future Hah that reminds me, I wonder if Toxxes are in effect for this iteration of the thread. I remember a lot of posts like this about all of the places theyve taken back so far and some of them spawned Toxxes for donations to Ukrainian charities for the loser. Donbas, for sure. Crimea? That one I'm a lot less sure about.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 22:00 |
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Blitz of 404 Error posted:I just don't see a scenario where Ukraine ever has control over Donbas and Crimea again for the foreseeable future Right now time will tell. Nothing's happened so far while the new western kit is being gathered and the troops trained in NATO standard tactics. However - Logistics is what will decide the war. An army without supplies can't do a whole lot of fighting or even holding on to what they have. And as long as Ukraine brings their A-game to dealing with their logistics, command centers, and communications, things certainly look optimistic enough on that front.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 22:01 |
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/skazal_on/status/1632839925195325443 How could the Sims 3 do this?
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 22:09 |
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/skazal_on/status/1632839925195325443 Ahem uh well the preFIDIOIS WEST HAS clearly photoshopped the flag. You see it's actually a square but they make it look like a swastika
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 22:12 |
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Ok so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Novorossiya Still bad but it does look like the Russian naval Jack flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_navy_flags Still, choose a different flag motif. Christ
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 22:13 |
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The Novorossiya people have used the St. Andrew's cross naval ensign as the basis for their flag for a time. Unless what some dumb nazi puts on his apartment wall is official I don't really think there's anything to analyze about that and I doubt fatherbox intended it as more than a laugh/facepalm thing to begin with. teen witch posted:Still, choose a different flag motif. Christ I mean whoever had this one made modified it to look like a badly cropped swastika instead of the St. Andrew's cross, it's not that it vaguely looks like the confederate battleflag or Scottish flag for that matter.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 22:18 |
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/skazal_on/status/1632839925195325443 "Have you noticed that our flag has a badly cropped Swastika on it?" "No... I..." "Ivan... Are we the baddies?" "Oh, you've been listening to NATO propaganda. Of course they're going to say we're the bad guys!" "They didn't design out flag, though."
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 22:46 |
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The conversation is kind of burying the "Jedem das Seine" motto though, which is considerably more on the nose here.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 22:57 |
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HonorableTB posted:Donbas, for sure. Crimea? That one I'm a lot less sure about.
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HonorableTB posted:Hah that reminds me, I wonder if Toxxes are in effect for this iteration of the thread. I remember a lot of posts like this about all of the places theyve taken back so far and some of them spawned Toxxes for donations to Ukrainian charities for the loser. Donbas, for sure. Crimea? That one I'm a lot less sure about.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:00 |
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I always found it somewhat strange that the Donbass shenanigans were sold as a revolt against Ukranian Nazis in Kyiv, but then half of their politicians end up having histories in nazi parties and they run the novorossiya flag while a bunch of their militia brigades are like 'norse viking rusich battalion'
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:04 |
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Panzeh posted:I always found it somewhat strange that the Donbass shenanigans were sold as a revolt against Ukranian Nazis in Kyiv, but then half of their politicians end up having histories in nazi parties and they run the novorossiya flag while a bunch of their militia brigades are like 'norse viking rusich battalion' There's a sort of person who genuinely believes Russia = Jewish & communist, two groups classically opposed to Nazis, thus it is impossible for Russians to be Nazis Meanwhile it's just packed to the gills with strongmen Christofascists StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Mar 7, 2023 |
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Panzeh posted:I always found it somewhat strange that the Donbass shenanigans were sold as a revolt against Ukranian Nazis in Kyiv, but then half of their politicians end up having histories in nazi parties and they run the novorossiya flag while a bunch of their militia brigades are like 'norse viking rusich battalion' So some dude who calls himself DJ Teknohitler 1488 (former name: Pavel Ivanov) can be literally a tattoo-art collection of Nazi iconography, and if he loves Russia, and supports what Russia is doing, he doesn't 'count' as a Nazi.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:16 |
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Panzeh posted:I always found it somewhat strange that the Donbass shenanigans were sold as a revolt against Ukranian Nazis in Kyiv, but then half of their politicians end up having histories in nazi parties and they run the novorossiya flag while a bunch of their militia brigades are like 'norse viking rusich battalion' The thing is, I agree with the notion that Ukraine should have given the region more autonomy and local self government that the locals asked for like they promised before, after the whole 93 debacle and not wanting centralized authority placed over them. Yanukovych's corruption and shenanigans during the 2000s didn't help matters either. Strelkov's declaration that the Crimea annexation was staged at gunpoint doesn't add any more legitimacy to that mess than it already does, given that Russia should have left Crimea as they promised before.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:20 |
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I'm not saying Ukraine couldn't take Crimea if they wanted to, it would just take a staggering amount of casualties to do so. And there's always the specter of Clancychat looming over the horizon when dealing with Crimea, much more than anywhere else. Crimea, much like Tahiti, is a magical place in the minds of many Russians (especially in the government) that totally belongs to Russia and always has - even Navalny supported the annexation of Crimea (which should also say a lot about Navalny and liberals in Russian politics, but different topic for a different thread) In any case, maybe they won't have to if they sever the land bridge. But I do not see any circumstance in which Russia abandons Sevastopol. It's their only yearlong ice-free deep water port and the HQ of the Black Sea fleet. It's about as core a Russian interest as they come. But now we're getting way out into the weeds so I'll bring it back HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Who considers Navalny liberal?
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:30 |
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Flowers for QAnon posted:Who considers Navalny liberal? well he's the head of a center-left opposition party i'd say that qualifies also jacobin and other outlets writing things like this: https://jacobin.com/2021/01/alexei-navalny-russia-protests-putin How a Russian Nationalist Named Alexei Navalny Became a Liberal Hero posted:The arrest of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has sparked mass protests against Vladimir Putin's authoritarianism. Navalny's journalism has highlighted the cronyism of Russia's elites — but his chameleon-like shifts between liberalism and anti-immigrant nationalism show he's no champion of working-class Russians. powerful liberal energy Also here's another article about what he's been up to lately Alexei Navalny's Big Shift on Crimea posted:Last week, in an encouraging development where Russia’s internal politics are concerned, Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny unveiled a series of “theses” outlining what a post-Putin Russia should look like. In so doing, Navalny finally clarified his position on the one issue that has, for some time now, driven a wedge between him and Western allies, especially those in Ukraine: Russian imperialism—and, more specifically, the fate of Crimea. HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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StrangersInTheNight posted:There's a sort of person who genuinely believes Russia = Jewish & communist, two groups classically opposed to Nazis, this it is impossible for Russians to be Nazis The 'Russia/Communist can't be nazi' talking point is really popular in propaganda circles and it's eaten up by Western communism larpers wholesale but the truth is much more mundane and predictable. It's true that Lenin denounced pogroms but once Stalin rolled in, well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union Communist antisemitism continued up to late 60s (look up 1968 Polish Communist Party for an example).
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:33 |
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HonorableTB posted:well he's the head of a center-left opposition party i'd say that qualifies "Liberal" is to Jacobin is as to "Nazi" is to Putin.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:38 |
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Navalny's foreign policy can be summed up as 'Russia's only viable future is to become an integrated part of the European economy, which means we need to make nice with Europe and stop threatening to nuke them at the drop of a hat'. He's also made some statements to the extent of 'if the price of re-entry to Europe is Crimea and domestic reforms, that's a price we need to suck up and pay'. For a Russian politician that's an astonishingly liberal position to take. e: oh TB linked a big article on this. Anyway it's pretty significant that he's willing to say 'no there's no grand Western plot to destroy Russia, this is a catastrophe our leaders cooked up entirely by themselves'. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Kchama posted:"Liberal" is to Jacobin is as to "Nazi" is to Putin. Okay but that doesn't describe every other publication referring to him the same way, from the New Yorker to the NYT to Moscow Times to WaPo whether or not you agree, he's considered the liberal opposition by more or less the entire media as well as western governments
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:40 |
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HonorableTB posted:Okay but that doesn't describe every other publication referring to him the same way, from the New Yorker to the NYT to Moscow Times to WaPo whether or not you agree, he's considered the liberal opposition by more or less the entire media as well as western governments He's not particularly liberal is the thing, but a lot of people pin their hopes on him being one, because he's about the only left-wing opposition in the country with any sort of power. So you'll see people calling him liberal when he's really not. I was also just cautioning listening to Jacobin call someone liberal though, since it's just their swear-word.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:45 |
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Kchama posted:He's not particularly liberal is the thing, but a lot of people pin their hopes on him being one, because he's about the only left-wing opposition in the country with any sort of power. So you'll see people calling him liberal when he's really not. I was also just cautioning listening to Jacobin call someone liberal though, since it's just their swear-word. Yeah this is a good point, Navalny's liberalness is extremely contextual and relational to Russian domestic politics. He's not a liberal by western political standards but by Russian political standards, he's the Least Bad of the serious politicians. There's weirdos like Yabloko and the communists (who are firmly Putin's instruments) but Navalny's the only one to actually do something about it, which is also why Putin kept trying to kill him and why he's currently in jail.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:51 |
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https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1632580318442975232 Hello darkness my old friend moment
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Alchenar posted:Navalny's foreign policy can be summed up as 'Russia's only viable future is to become an integrated part of the European economy, which means we need to make nice with Europe and stop threatening to nuke them at the drop of a hat'. He's also made some statements to the extent of 'if the price of re-entry to Europe is Crimea and domestic reforms, that's a price we need to suck up and pay'. One of the big "what ifs" of world history in my opinion is after the fall of the Berlin wall, if Russia and the west mutually abandoned the belligerant attitudes (Which wouldn't happen immediately, but over time). We could be living in a world where Russia is a significant integrated part of the european economy and the big question on foreign policy is what's the legitimate need for a NATO. But alas. Putin got high on the idea of being the next Peter the Great. And it's funny because had he died in 2021 he would have been seen nearly universally as the man who brought Russia back. And now this is all he'll be remembered for.
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 23:58 |
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if i were vladimir putin i would simply stop the war
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# ? Mar 7, 2023 00:14 |
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HonorableTB posted:if i were vladimir putin i would simply stop the war If I were Putin I wouldn't have invaded in the first place and simply shat myself to death.
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# ? Mar 7, 2023 00:24 |
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HonorableTB posted:if i were vladimir putin i would simply stop the war is too late comrade, now putin has shamed west and asserted dominance over decandant ukraine by taking poo poo in puppet volodimir zelenskys stolen briefs, he must see through gloriously successful military campaign or else pants making GBS threads incident looks like international embarrassment and sign of enfeeblement
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# ? Mar 7, 2023 00:27 |
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I think Speak The Hungarian Rapper had some powerful words that Vlad Putin should hear
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# ? Mar 7, 2023 01:00 |
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In an extremely Pingu voice: *poot poot* E: errrrr Pingu is in fact not Hungarian. Coulda sworn. Well that didn't land did it.
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# ? Mar 7, 2023 01:05 |
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I think that this war is bad and Russia should be stopped from doing such lovely things.
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# ? Mar 7, 2023 02:21 |
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Round-Up of News of the Day Office of the President of Ukraine quote:https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/okupant-ubivaye-za-sam-fakt-sho-mi-ukrayinci-za-odne-slovo-p-81473 Kyiv Independent quote:https://kyivindependent.com/national/brigade-that-spent-2-months-in-bakhmut-it-was-becoming-harder-each-week quote:https://kyivindependent.com/national/ukrainian-soldiers-in-bakhmut-our-troops-are-not-being-protected Washington Post quote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/06/bakhmut-wagner-mercenaries-russia-ukraine/
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# ? May 30, 2024 13:25 |
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Currently starting Antony Beevors Russia: Revolution and Civil War, 1917—1921 which is definitely an interesting read given the current situation. Anybody want to explain to me how he’s a decadent biased Anglo and everything in the book is wrong?
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