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For everyone having issues with accursed tiktok: https://twitter.com/GameChangerSam/status/1632775545879674881 Looks good. Looks great, even!
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Mar 6, 2023 22:01
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Pleads posted:For everyone having issues with accursed tiktok: Upsetting. I love it!
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Mar 6, 2023 23:32
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NieR Occomata posted:Is it even possible to put Brennan in a situation where he’s actually on the back foot? Because I would love to see it. this as a game changer episode basically? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7MBoi2m31w
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Mar 6, 2023 23:39
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One day there's going to be a Game Changer where the rest of the production team and Brennan conspire to turn the tables and make Sam the surprise contestant for an episode.
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Mar 7, 2023 00:50
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brennan/lou/siobhan gonna be a good one
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Mar 7, 2023 01:04
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Oh my god this is chaos in the best way
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Mar 7, 2023 01:23
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That was incredible
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Mar 7, 2023 01:52
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That was a very fun episode 
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Mar 7, 2023 01:58
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Just finished the episode and good god drat was that a fun ride. Siobhan/Lou are both perfect for this game, and Brennan is perfect for every game just because of how amazingly quickly he goes from calm and collected to outright insane.
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Mar 7, 2023 02:15
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I've always wanted to go to an escape room and absolutely wreck house, so this was incredibly cathartic for me
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Mar 7, 2023 02:16
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That was somehow a perfect representation of the Dungeons and Dragons experience.
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Mar 7, 2023 02:21
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Oh my god. Samuel Dalton was here the whole time. He was the Sam in the season's poster!
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Mar 7, 2023 02:40
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Just started the Gamechanger episode, I was happy to see that at the start Brennan had a big bag of almonds immediately at hand. Edit: That was fantastic. boxen fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Mar 7, 2023 |
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Mar 7, 2023 03:53
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IMMEDIATE VIOLENCE
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Mar 7, 2023 04:21
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I Am Fowl posted:Oh my god. Samuel Dalton was here the whole time. He was the Sam in the season's poster! Goddamnit.
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Mar 7, 2023 05:31
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Honestly that was the right call for the contestants to leave Sam tied up in the bathroom for a little longer. Still trying to figure out how he got in there and switched from a live video feed to something prerecorded.
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Mar 7, 2023 08:00
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tmm3k posted:Honestly that was the right call for the contestants to leave Sam tied up in the bathroom for a little longer. Still trying to figure out how he got in there and switched from a live video feed to something prerecorded. Misdirection, a common tool of.... oh gently caress, guys, It was Sam Dalton in the bathroom!
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Mar 7, 2023 08:08
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tmm3k posted:Honestly that was the right call for the contestants to leave Sam tied up in the bathroom for a little longer. Still trying to figure out how he got in there and switched from a live video feed to something prerecorded. I think there's a window right next to him. I think when all three contestants were getting close to solving the puzzle in the little room, that's probably when the switch happened, just when none of them were able to see the screen, and then a quick run with a helper 'round the back way (maybe over the roof?). I do wonder what we missed with what was supposedly an hour long timer on the bomb, but only a 26 minute episode.
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Mar 7, 2023 08:33
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boxen posted:I think there's a window right next to him. I think when all three contestants were getting close to solving the puzzle in the little room, that's probably when the switch happened, just when none of them were able to see the screen, and then a quick run with a helper 'round the back way (maybe over the roof?). I do wonder what we missed with what was supposedly an hour long timer on the bomb, but only a 26 minute episode. This would be a good behind the scenes episode to make. Just release a real time cut with like a 6 way split screen.
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Mar 7, 2023 09:47
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NieR Occomata posted:Is it even possible to put Brennan in a situation where he’s actually on the back foot? Because I would love to see it. I mean this episode kind of was that, as evidenced by the finale with Brennan, Lou and Siobhan all just standing there, dead eyed as Sam celebrated the episode before they decide to just pour their water out on him. I'm sure they all saw the humor in it after the fact, but it seems like all 3 of them were genuinely stressed by the episode itself. enki42 posted:this as a game changer episode basically? If the game is "make something where it's not about winning" and/or "a thing Brennan can't win" then I'd say they already did that; multiple times even, really. There was the episode where everyone was doing a Jeopardy board but it hinged on them cooperating, the infamous "Yes/No" episode that ends with Brennan figuring out "I...cannot...win!" and possibly whatever episode it was that ended with everyone forming a union. I say "possibly" for the simple reason that I can't even remember what the actual game was, and if that was in the rules or just a possibility Sam foresaw as an outcome; never mind whether Brennan was even on the episode.
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Mar 7, 2023 14:38
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I Am Fowl posted:Oh my god. Samuel Dalton was here the whole time. He was the Sam in the season's poster! The poster even features the 7-of-diamonds card that Sam had each of them pull. I wonder how he did that trick? I'm guessing he had one deck of cards that was all 7ofD and a second deck that had the item theme, and just switched the card packs when no one was looking? I also wonder if they had anything planned if anyone had attempted to pick the bathroom door lock early. That only utilized a paperclip, so in theory it could have been done from the start, unless that a bit of movie magic.
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Mar 7, 2023 16:56
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Bobulus posted:I also wonder if they had anything planned if anyone had attempted to pick the bathroom door lock early. That only utilized a paperclip, so in theory it could have been done from the start, unless that a bit of movie magic. I would say it's against the spirit of an escape room to try and pick a lock if something in the game hasn't pointed you towards doing that, but then again it's also against the spirit of an escape room to immediately smash a guitar to pieces as the literal first thing you do.
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Mar 7, 2023 17:07
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Bobulus posted:The poster even features the 7-of-diamonds card that Sam had each of them pull. I wonder how he did that trick? I'm guessing he had one deck of cards that was all 7ofD and a second deck that had the item theme, and just switched the card packs when no one was looking? It's entirely possible they had two locks on that door, and simply undid one when it was appropriate, with the second lock being easy to pick but in general I don't think it's necessary. The cast had no reason to question the "Out of Order" sign prior to the game starting, and once the game started they were on a ticking clock and stress would almost certainly constrain their thinking and stop them from even considering something of no apparent consequence or influence to their situation. That said, the lock was extremely easy to open considering Siobhan, who presumably has no training in the area, picked it with a paperclip in seconds without any real apparent effort to mess around with it. The aperture was just a tiny hole with no specific key shape either. I don't know if any such thing exists, but at a guess it might have had a special lock of some kind that opens easily with even minor effort for the sake of movie sets and such.
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Mar 7, 2023 17:07
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It's just a standard interior safety door lock, that you might have on your kids room We had a lock similar on my door as a kid, it's a privacy lock that allows for simple entry to like a bathroom or kids room if they try and lock you out or whatever. I used to pester my sister by bending a hanger to unlock them when I was a 8 year old and she was like 14.
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Mar 7, 2023 17:12
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Yeah, you can jimmy those open super fast. We had ones with a slightly bigger opening and would use eyeglass repair screwdrivers if someone accidentally locked them from the outside.
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Mar 7, 2023 18:03
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8one6 posted:This would be a good behind the scenes episode to make. Just release a real time cut with like a 6 way split screen. I think they usually toss one of those up the next week if they're going to do it, so maybe next week?
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Mar 7, 2023 19:08
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I was wondering how long some of that stuff had been set up. I remember seeing some kind of behind the scenes or interview with some dropout people that was in that room, but I don't remember what or when it was to go back and look for differences. You'd think a bunch of cameras suddenly showing up would be a huge tipoff but maybe the contestants were just going along with the bit.
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Mar 7, 2023 19:33
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We've seen enough stuff in there that I imagine it's not uncommon for film stuff and crews to be there for behind the scenes content.
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Mar 7, 2023 19:54
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPs4TbGpleg That's the only other video I can remember showing that room, so you might be referring to that one. It's a markedly different look there though, with none of the framed show posters , no television mounted etc. A lot of that was pretty recent though, going by the comment during the episode that "the posters aren't just there to celebrate our history" or whatever it was. So presumably Sam did it all during a recent renovation with this plan ultimately in mind, but the other additions not exactly being unappreciated by the staff regardless. The addition of the cameras can also be explained by the fact the show has now started doing "behind the scenes" extras for every episode, and this episode in particular having Sam give the excuse that he had to start the "spiel" in the green room in order to prevent them seeing the set beforehand. So the room would have to be camera'd up to have that spiel included in the show at all. I do like that Lou is apparently just a nervous loving wreck on camera between running through the room knocking over chairs in that video, jumping every time someone blew the foghorn in the "Sam Says" episode and him jumping when Sam starts speaking from the TV in this episode. I'm sure there's some degree of over-reacting for comedy in at least the first instance, especially going off his comment later that you're supposed to do stupid poo poo like that when you're on screen, but the jumping when startled in the other instances seems pretty genuine even if he's exaggerating somewhat then too. tsob fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Mar 7, 2023 |
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Mar 7, 2023 19:56
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My understanding is that they film most of the Game Changer stuff as a pretty short block, so it's likely the room was set up in its current configuration ready for this from the start of this season's filming anyway.
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Mar 7, 2023 19:58
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MikeJF posted:My understanding is that they film most of the Game Changer stuff as a pretty short block, so it's likely the room was set up in its current configuration ready for this from the start of this season's filming anyway. That was my guess, with some of the bigger stuff (guitar, coat rack, cameras) being moved in some time before to not raise suspicion and then things like the Doritos and RC car added day-of. Does it look like the bit with the posters was necessary or just a distraction? They moved to the next step but could they have found it without doing the posters? The subtitles said there was an unlock noise but I don't know if that was added in post. Also, whoever did the subtitles for this and other shows was having a good time.
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Mar 7, 2023 21:36
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enki42 posted:I would say it's against the spirit of an escape room to try and pick a lock if something in the game hasn't pointed you towards doing that, but then again it's also against the spirit of an escape room to immediately smash a guitar to pieces as the literal first thing you do. It's absolutely not against the spirit. You're locked in a room and have to escape, that's the rules and outside of physical force/breaking poo poo/being a dick you're well within your rights. Favorite memory of an escape the room was one where we were stuck on a puzzle and then someone said they got it and we carried on. Only afterwards did we ask how they did it, and sure enough, they picked the lock for that specific task. It's a game of wits, and outsmarting the game is never a bad thing!
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CatstropheWaitress posted:outside of physical force/breaking poo poo/being a dick you're well within your rights. I mean, even force/breaking things might be allowed depending on the escape room. The ones I've done gave you explicit rules for what was and was not allowed, for example "you will not need to break anything to get out of here". I think it wouldn't have been completely unreasonable for Siobhan to kool-aid man through the door rather than picking it (yes I know that's unlikely but it'd be REALLY entertaining). There was definitely some slight level of destruction involved in opening the little door to the secret room that had been plastered or painted shut. It was just very easy to do because it had been designed in as part of the task. I assume some of the time that was edited out was going over the rules, else I find it hard to believe that Lou would smash a guitar that didn't belong to him IMMEDIATELY after they started. CatstropheWaitress posted:It's a game of wits, and outsmarting the game is never a bad thing! See also: using Facetime to make driving the car a lot easier . That would have taken MUCH more time if not for the clever solution. This all got me thinking, Rage Rooms are a thing and Escape Rooms are a thing, someone has to have come up with some sort of hybrid where you need to smash AND think. It'd be like chess boxing. boxen fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Mar 7, 2023 |
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Mar 7, 2023 22:55
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I dunno, the facetime car thing feels like it's doing what you're supposed to be doing but finding a better way to do it. Picking locks that you haven't been hinted to pick feels like most of the time it would invalidate a puzzle that's supposed to lead you to the key. If they just picked the lock in the first place pretty much the entirety of the escape room is invalidated, and escape rooms are definitely supposed to have a bit of a "script" and order of operations to them.
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Definitely my favorite episode of this season. Those were some fun puzzles, and Brennan, Siobhan, and Lou are such a great team.
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Mar 7, 2023 23:09
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boxen posted:That was my guess, with some of the bigger stuff (guitar, coat rack, cameras) being moved in some time before to not raise suspicion and then things like the Doritos and RC car added day-of. I assume things like bags of sweets and chips are going to be pretty standard in a greenroom. boxen posted:Does it look like the bit with the posters was necessary or just a distraction? They moved to the next step but could they have found it without doing the posters? The subtitles said there was an unlock noise but I don't know if that was added in post. Theoretically they could just have unlocked the bathroom door without any of the rest of it, so by that logic the entire thing is really just distraction. The posters gave them one more hint they needed to actually do it. boxen posted:This all got me thinking, Rage Rooms are a thing and Escape Rooms are a thing, someone has to have come up with some sort of hybrid where you need to smash AND think. It'd be like chess boxing. Now that you mention it, I think the faces on everyone at the end when Sam revealed the prize was the chance to willingly go to an escape room that maybe they'd have appreciated a rage room more.
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enki42 posted:
Agreed, but its about how you define your goals and how people interpret the spirit of the thing. It could be argued that the fastest way to get out of the room would be to call 911 and say you're being held against your will and provide the address. I think a big part of having a time limit was to encourage them to go through the sequence rather than just trying random things, and also yeah picking the lock at the beginning would have invalidated a bunch of it but they'd also be left just with access to the bathroom which they didn't even know was part of it, so why would they even try? It's a bunch of improv people, they tend to go off-script. Sam said at the end his partner for the design of it ran an escape room company that had won some awards, so I assume they knew what they were doing. I doubt they cared much about how everything was solved, as long as it was entertaining. For all we know, the first run of the escape room was three different people who just brute forced everything and it wasn't fun to watch. tsob posted:I assume things like bags of sweets and chips are going to be pretty standard in a greenroom. I meant they added the specific bag with the card the day of, things like that. Things like the rabbit on the wall I'm not sure, you could easily add that in advance but you'd think someone would ask "why is this random and not very creative sticker on the wall" but personally I'd probably just see it and go "huh, that's weird" and immediately forget it. For your spoiler, yeah I agree but I imagine some of the contestant selection process was to pick people who'd get into the spirit of the thing (Brenna being fully unwilling to let sam "win" and so playing by the rules of the game, for example) rather than immediately just trying to get out through any means necessary. I think this is the only Gamechange episode that I've finished and immediately rewatched. Twice. boxen fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Mar 7, 2023 |
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Bobulus posted:The poster even features the 7-of-diamonds card that Sam had each of them pull. I wonder how he did that trick? I'm guessing he had one deck of cards that was all 7ofD and a second deck that had the item theme, and just switched the card packs when no one was looking? First spoiler:A magician that is decent at sleight of hand can really do either. If Sam really has been studying close up magic, he might just have used a normal deck to start but forced the choice so that they would always pick the 6 of diamonds.
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Lou finding out what the game was and immediately smashing the guitar against the wall with no hesitation is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
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