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Duzzy Funlop posted:The report says extended range JDAM, so the brand new air-dropped toy-kits. From the shockwave, I'd guess they hit an ammo dump and triggered a secondary blast with the main ordnance. Would you not expect to see multiple/secondaries if it was a hit on an ammo dump?
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Carth Dookie posted:I think south is likely. Just bottling Crimea to the point that Russia can sit there eating ferried MREs and not much else would be a huge result for the first part of a counter attack. And I would imagine that the propaganda victory of splitting the line would be pretty good for Ukranian morale, and terrible for Russian. What about captured Russian troops, can they be shown on TV at all? I'm thinking of those famous videos of WW2 with US troops going east on the autobahn while surrendered Germans walk into captivity. Can that be shown these days?
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The Geneva convention doesn't blanket ban any display of photos or video of prisoners or wars. It just states that they must be protected against, among other things, public curiosity. I'm not a legal expert, but the general interpretation of it by organisations like the Red Cross seems to be that showing prisoners of war in media can be acceptable if there is a compelling public interest in doing so and it doesn't serve to humiliate the prisoners in question or jeopardize their safety. Merely documenting in visual media that a large number of prisoners of war were captured could well fall within that.
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Also not an expert but: Only grumbling I saw was about the interviews of captured Russian soldiers posted online. Might be that public curiosity thing being the bone of contention.
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Video of Russian formations walking into captivity may be okay, but individual scrutiny in front of a camera which is then published would likely be less acceptable.
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:Would you not expect to see multiple/secondaries if it was a hit on an ammo dump? You know where it is hitting and when, you might as well take a video of it. Anecdote: Our training troops were invited to a show where tanks were shooting at targets in a quarry. At one point of the show "INCOMING" was yelled and we scrabled. As it turns out a head-sized rock landed within 5 meters from out positions. So yes taking a video is what you would expect, but since this is army doing stuff it still isn't 100% safe even in the best conditions.
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:Would you not expect to see multiple/secondaries if it was a hit on an ammo dump? Looks like one big bomb to me too, not an ammo dump. If you look at USAAF bombing footage from WW2, those impacts from the 500-1000lb+ bombs they were dropping looked a lot the one in the video (except from 20,000' in the air.)
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mikerock posted:Looks like one big bomb to me too, not an ammo dump. If you look at USAAF bombing footage from WW2, those impacts from the 500-1000lb+ bombs they were dropping looked a lot the one in the video (except from 20,000' in the air.) Yea that was what I thought too. Der Kyhe posted:You know where it is hitting and when, you might as well take a video of it. huh?
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Musk would absolutely be a failed FYAD poster. The "edgy" comedy and "ironic" racism is exactly what he now calls "free speech" as a white billionaire tech bro.
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bird food bathtub posted:Musk would absolutely be a failed FYAD poster. The "edgy" comedy and "ironic" racism is exactly what he now calls "free speech" as a white billionaire tech bro. Wrong thread?
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Der Kyhe posted:You know where it is hitting and when, you might as well take a video of it. We detonated a cratering charge one time in training and it sent a chunk of mud the size of a bicycle about 10 meters behind our dugout, around 100m from the detonation itself. psydude fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Mar 8, 2023 |
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Kchama posted:Wrong thread? Right sentiment though
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Flyinglemur posted:Right sentiment though I mean, he's got the spirit. A bit confused, but he's got the spirit.
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Don't watch through the camera, watch over the camera in case you need to get the gently caress out of the way. A lil piece of rock, debris, or shrapnel can and will gently caress your day up if you're not careful. Note: applies more to training, demonstration, demolition and blasting than air strikes unless you're close enough you probably shouldn't be filming to begin with.
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psydude posted:We detonated a cratering charge one time in training and it sent a chunk of mud the size of a bicycle Americans will do ANYTHING to not use the met.... psydude posted:about 10 meters behind our dugout, around 100m from the detonation itself. ....gently caress.
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CainFortea posted:Americans will do ANYTHING to not use the met.... yeah he got you there this is clearly the faster way to travel
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Arrath posted:Don't watch through the camera, watch over the camera in case you need to get the gently caress out of the way. A lil piece of rock, debris, or shrapnel can and will gently caress your day up if you're not careful. Lmao thanks but I think he quoted me by mistake is what I was getting at.
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Alan Smithee posted:yeah he got you there Mid 90s DOS FPS games knew that rocket jumping was the future
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One thousand millibicycles
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Soul Dentist posted:One thousand millibicycles Americans will do anything tp avoid learning metric
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Alan Smithee posted:Americans will do anything tp avoid learning metric You will never take Rankine from me
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Kchama posted:Wrong thread? Welp. Yup, was for current events thread but I went to bed. Let my shame stand as a monument for all eternity.
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Is posting combat footage from bird's perspective ok? There's an interesting video of soldiers from the 24th mechanized assaulting a trench on foot.
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As long as it's a link and fair warning to content is given
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Men from the 24th mechanized attack a trench.  Several enemies dropped on screen.https://twitter.com/PaulJawin/status/1633440771398410241 Looks like there's a 11min version of this on yt, featuring what looks like a counterattack on the taken trench. Same warnings apply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ2W1jSU_lE Any thoughts on the professionalism in this video? Power Khan fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Mar 8, 2023 |
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Power Khan posted:Men from the 24th mechanized attack a trench. In the past 12 months, the Ukrainian army has gotten more experience with conventional warfare against a peer than anyone on these forums has. We have a bunch of combat vets that can tell you all about how to conduct counter insurgency operations. We have some that have ~5 months of "near peer" experience against the Iraqi army during the invasion back in 2003. No one here has stood toe to toe and slogged it out against what the entire world would consider a superior army. So we can sit back here and talk about tactics and doctrine for how to assault fortified positions (really it all boils down to establishing a base of fire to pin the enemy down with one element while the other element scoots around to shoot them) but at the end of the day, it looks like they captured the position with minimal losses.
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Hekk posted:So we can sit back here and talk about tactics and doctrine for how to assault fortified positions (really it all boils down to establishing a base of fire to pin the enemy down with one element while the other element scoots around to shoot them) but at the end of the day, it looks like they captured the position with minimal losses. I honestly would be interested in someone's take on how well this kind of assault matches up with US tactics and doctrine. This video looked particularly well executed, although possibly just because the Russians didn't have a lookout.
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Hekk posted:In the past 12 months, the Ukrainian army has gotten more experience with conventional warfare against a peer than anyone on these forums has. We have a bunch of combat vets that can tell you all about how to conduct counter insurgency operations. We have some that have ~5 months of "near peer" experience against the Iraqi army during the invasion back in 2003. No one here has stood toe to toe and slogged it out against what the entire world would consider a superior army. Yeah I suspect Ukraine will be a world leader in modern infantry tactics for a while. There's gonna be a lot of material coming out of this conflict where Ukraine will be held as the subject matter expert.
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah I suspect Ukraine will be a world leader in modern infantry tactics for a while. There's gonna be a lot of material coming out of this conflict where Ukraine will be held as the subject matter expert. They've done quite a lot of innovation, especially when it comes to drone integration. We've had drones providing ISR for decades now, but using drones as very quick fire support by dropping grenades on positions ahead moments before you assault it is great. Not to mention reports of using drones to resupply or provide medical supplies to soldiers actively assaulting.
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Power Khan posted:Men from the 24th mechanized attack a trench. That drone is a mobile and surreptitious 500ft high guard tower providing early warning for the whole area.  To my civilian eye the initial attack looked very smooth and professional.
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This is a detailed three-part series of articles on how things went down from the Danish perspective. The focus is on how ill-prepared Denmark's crisis management was. You'll have to translate it, but it's an interesting read. https://www.zetland.dk/historie/sO0VrdNb-mo46mbZz-281a8 https://www.zetland.dk/historie/sO9aZd56-mo46mbZz-4933a https://www.zetland.dk/historie/s8D3lK6d-mo46mbZz-f5c1c quote:On Monday morning – around eight hours after the explosion – a team of seismologists met in inner Copenhagen. It was a regular routine that they met every morning and looked at the graphs from the past 24 hours to see if anything startling had happened in the Danish underground. If the seismologists from the National Geological Surveys for Denmark and Greenland - usually known as GEUS - discovered data from the graph on Bornholm, they would have crucial knowledge about the explosion and the location of the leak, which the Norwegian Defense Forces currently lacked. But the researchers only looked at data up to 2 a.m. Monday. As mentioned, the explosion happened at 2.03 Danish time. In other words: If the explosion had happened just four minutes earlier, it would have appeared in the material the seismologists had in front of them. But the seismologists were evidently right this morning “ unfortunate”, as one employee later remarked. GEUS found nothing interesting in their graphs, and there was therefore naturally nothing to alert other authorities about. quote:The three-masted Norwegian school ship Christian Radich with large white sails was on his way from Oslo to Gotland and was heading directly for the new leaks. The mate now got a call over the radio. A ship in the distance reported that something out in the dark sea was standing upright. It was quite mysterious. The sea was bubbling or something reminiscent of it. Just over 20 minutes had passed since the latest explosions, and neither the Ministry of Defence, the Prime Minister's Office nor the training ship out on the Baltic Sea knew yet that another attack had taken place. Fridtjof Jungeling was sitting in his cabin this Monday evening, and the experienced 50-year-old captain actually had time off after setting the ship on the right course with the 28 maladjusted youngsters that the school system had abandoned. Now they were going on a four-week trip to teach the young men how to become real sailors. He was looking forward to the sailing trip. quote:Anders Puck Nielsen is a military analyst at the Center for Maritime Operations at the Norwegian Defense Academy. He says that the Nord Stream explosions have exposed a truth that many in the Armed Forces have thought about for a long time: that we are almost blind when it comes to the Baltic Sea. quote:Let's leave the crime scene and instead move to what we might call the forensics section of the article. Because how on earth do you manage to blow up a tonne-heavy gas pipe made of concrete and steel? Peter Hald, a chemist specializing in explosives at Aarhus University and a former officer at the Norwegian Army's Engineer Regiment, can enlighten us on that. quote:While it seems contradictory that Russia would blow up its own gas pipeline, what about ... the country that Russia is trying to invade? Ukraine is far from the Baltic Sea, but one of the theories is that it was Ukrainian special forces who blew up the pipes. So that's theory number two: the Ukrainians did it.
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Regardless of the professionalism on the ground I got a lol from the CoD:MW overlay the guy who edited it used. I wouldn't use that as a reason to watch that video though, it is at the end of the day still with a tw for real people doing things you see in movies.
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Ukrainian position gets almost overrun, but in a good way (safe to watch)
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It’s udder chaos, better steer clear!
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Icon Of Sin posted:It’s udder chaos, better steer clear! MOOO!!!! MOOO THIS MAN!!!!
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It's all fun and games until you realize you're in the Diablo 2 Cow level.
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Icon Of Sin posted:It’s udder chaos, better steer clear! 
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"butter" steer clear, surely. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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McNally posted:"butter" steer clear, surely. One does well not to overuse a theme
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:One does well not to overuse a theme Milking it for all it’s worth, as it were 
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