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I ordered the first Gotrek and Felix omnibus and they send me the second by accident. Think it's okay to start off with Dragonslayer or should I finangle with Amazon's barely functional return policies? It's from a third party seller so while they'll prolly send me the box to send it back soon it'll be anywhere from six months to six years before they refund or replace it.
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euphronius posted:I think I posted this but I think the Vaults is Terra trilogy has supplanted eisenhorn as the new first read recommendation. This is something I've thought about a lot as I've been getting friends into the setting and the conclusion I have come to is that Vaults of Terra (and Watcher's) is a great starting point because it's such a high quality series nobody is going to bounce off the setting due to it, but it just hits different if you've read some other stuff and really understand the importance of events more than just having read some 40k Wiki articles. My preferred introduction is Eisenhorn -> Horus Rising then Vaults or something else if they have interest in a specific faction. Eisenhorn is such a great introduction to the lore and then you've gotta read Horus Rising next to really understand the pathos of the setting. If you've read both of those first Vaults just means more because you have a more visceral understanding of the stakes.
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habeasdorkus posted:Disagree, I read it without having read the Siege and more or less caught up pretty quick, albeit with some jumps over to the lexicanum to catch up on who the various characters were. I think if you've got a basic overview of the events of the heresy then you probably could skip the Siege stuff and jump right in without really being too lost. That said I think the Siege series is short enough and generally high quality enough that it's worth going through them to not only have the full background in mind but also to actually build up what's happening in terms of your own experience. Personally this conclusion has been 20 years in the writing and I think I'd be losing something if I just skipped the entirety of that build up (not to say you need to read any of the HH stuff as well, just I think there's a reward to going through the Siege series as a whole).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXEwnJbzU4U Trailer for the Blacktalon series. It looks okay, competent but slightly bland.
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So in Angel Exterminatus, Kroeger relives the experiences of a soldier named Karl in the trenches of WW1, and I'm just thinking about how Graham had the potential to create the funniest moment in Black Library history if he'd named him a certain little something else.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/08/minka-lesk-charges-from-page-to-plastic-with-a-stunning-black-library-miniature/ This week's Black Library reveals comes with a little extra, namely a reveal of a Minka Lesk model.  To which I say, about loving time it happened. Shame I couldn't get through Cadia Stand for a bunch of reasons. Haven't tried the sequels if they're better ot not. But the actual reveal is she's getting another book, Shadow of the Eighth, as well as an omnibus named Minka Lesk: The Last Whiteshield. 
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Black Griffon posted:So in Angel Exterminatus, Kroeger relives the experiences of a soldier named Karl in the trenches of WW1, and I'm just thinking about how Graham had the potential to create the funniest moment in Black Library history if he'd named him a certain little something else. Such as?
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Mar 8, 2023 17:32
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Think he was going for Adolf?
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Black Griffon posted:So in Angel Exterminatus, Kroeger relives the experiences of a soldier named Karl in the trenches of WW1, and I'm just thinking about how Graham had the potential to create the funniest moment in Black Library history if he'd named him a certain little something else. Its true they should have named him "Chad Kroeger"
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Mar 8, 2023 20:41
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Syncopated posted:Think he was going for Adolf? They were, you get it. lonelylikezoidberg posted:Its true they should have named him "Chad Kroeger" Bobby Krogs and his merry band of Khorites
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End and the Death spoilers: If the plan to turn the Emperor into a god during the Heresy is thwarted, how does that jive with the fact that he's basically exactly that in M41? I mean, he's able to go toe to toe with Nurgle and resurrecting Primarchs and manifesting daemons (saints) all over the place in the current setting.
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Paddyo posted:End and the Death spoilers: If the plan to turn the Emperor into a god during the Heresy is thwarted, how does that jive with the fact that he's basically exactly that in M41? I mean, he's able to go toe to toe with Nurgle and resurrecting Primarchs and manifesting daemons (saints) all over the place in the current setting. he could already do that pre-heresy. The plan was to turn him into a Chaos god, which either didn’t work or worked and was somehow thwarted by Oll and pals
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Read Volpone Glory by Nick Kyme and it was great. Getting to see the Volpone in their interactions with one another was fun, there was war and politics.
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A Nick Kyme Volpone story that isn't hot garbage?
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Arc Hammer posted:A Nick Kyme Volpone story that isn't hot garbage? It's average.
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I had a thought that (End and Death spoiler) Basilio Fo's anti-astartes weapon would be such a convenient way to squat all the smolmarines.
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They have to do SOMETHING with it, it's had so much build-up and page space dedicated to it.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:They have to do SOMETHING with it, it's had so much build-up and page space dedicated to it. Horus is going to snort all that bioweapon stuff like it was just strong VapoRub and ask for seconds
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Angry Lobster posted:Horus is going to snort all that bioweapon stuff like it was just strong VapoRub and ask for seconds
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Boltgun that literally just bolts airfreshners to death guard. The flamers are actually giant febreeze cans.
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Flytrap posted:I ordered the first Gotrek and Felix omnibus and they send me the second by accident. Think it's okay to start off with Dragonslayer or should I finangle with Amazon's barely functional return policies? It's from a third party seller so while they'll prolly send me the box to send it back soon it'll be anywhere from six months to six years before they refund or replace it.
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Finishing up the Watchers of the Throne audiobooks and I liked the more political emphasis and the non-combatant viewpoint with Tyron in the first book and Jeck in the second. What else is like it?
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Ok I just finished Mortis and the dislike I had for John Grammaticus in Saturnine is much worse now. It's entirely because he's written like a 90's videogame character doing a 30's hard boiled noir detective bit and it absolutely clashes with the tone. It comes across a lot like the worst parts of Dr Who. Also Olly is like, 100% a different character in this book compared to the last one. I'm sure it gets better.
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Robert Rath's a writer for Extra History? That's neat.
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moths posted:Ok I just finished Mortis and the dislike I had for John Grammaticus in Saturnine is much worse now. Mortis just sucks. Easily the worst Siege book by far.
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OPAONI posted:Mortis just sucks. Easily the worst Siege book by far. It's a drat shame too, it easily could have been the best pew pew book of the siege. Just a massive well done Titan story. The ordo sinister was criminally wasted.
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I honestly didn't think Mortis was THAT bad. Until I started to read Warhawk.
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I liked Lost and the Damnned a lot because the space marines are mostly not in it. Says something about the series doesn't it?
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D-Pad posted:it easily could have been the best pew pew book of the siege. Yeah, that was the bridge scene in Saturnine for a while. The combat scenes in The End and the Death are something else though. The most intense fighting we've seen in 40K fiction so far is in that book. The despair of the defenders, the madness of the attackers clashes in repeated crescendos of violence that have rarely graced the printed page.
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AndyElusive posted:I honestly didn't think Mortis was THAT bad. The Charge scene absolutely rules. Edit: I have an End and the Death theory. I think Malcador has put a little but of himself in Basilius Fo. There are first person parenthetical asides in his sections that are otherwise written in third person, and the only person in the book that gets first person POV is Malcador. So I think Malcador has a backup plan in Basilius somehow. OPAONI fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Mar 10, 2023 |
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OPAONI posted:Mortis just sucks. Easily the worst Siege book by far. That's good to know. I was even having trouble paying attention to the titan battles, like I'd get a few paragraphs in and realize I was thinking about something else. I think it also required a lot of outside knowledge as to why Ordo Sinister was regrettable. I still don't really understand why using badass Wizard Titans was a desperation move. Maybe because it disproved the Imperial Truth? Was there any future cost? Nobody knows! They sure make people feel icky though. Looking forward to Warhawk!
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Mortis is super duper bad. It’s not the worst siege book now that Garro exists but it’s not remotely good. My ranking of the siege books so far: Saturnine Warhawk End and the Death vol. 1 Echoes The solar war The lost and the damned Fury of Magnus The First Wall Mortis Garro
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Mortis is super duper bad. It’s not the worst siege book now that Garro exists but it’s not remotely good. 9 books! 9 loving books covering the end of a series that was meant to be a trilogy. And there is still 1 to go. I really want them to split it as well. Go full hhgttg.
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EoMK is on the vengeful spirit already. I can’t imagine it going to 3 volumes. Unless there is a lengthy warp interlude
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euphronius posted:EoMK is on the vengeful spirit already. I can’t imagine it going to 3 volumes. Unless there is a lengthy warp interlude tbf what if this is what Abnett means in the book itself when the characters realise that Guilliman et al will be a week out forever? The Chaos gods (big GW) will make sure the end is always in sight but not actually coming any closer...
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There is one more novella I believe.
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D-Pad posted:There is one more novella I believe. Source? I've seen nothing about that.
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Syncopated posted:tbf what if this is what Abnett means in the book itself when the characters realise that Guilliman et al will be a week out forever? The Chaos gods (big GW) will make sure the end is always in sight but not actually coming any closer... Groundhog Day: 30k edition
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a lovely king posted:Source? I've seen nothing about that. Original announcement or an article at some point had 4 novellas and we've only gotten 3. It would be cool if the last one took place after the internment and was just the primarchs and custodes being emo as gently caress.
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