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Games like Wizardry are called "blobbers." That's fun!
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christmas boots posted:Well in movies you have spaghetti (Italy) westerns as well, but that really does seem to be a very specifically distinct genre at least visually. Cool, not video game genres
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christmas boots posted:The first two are too vague for my liking, what's a "non-story" driven RPG? Maybe Linear Narrative RPG? Non-story driven: Various rogue-likes, the various Souls games, pokemon to some extent depending on the generation. Basically "The plot is an excuse" games. And as far as anime goes, at least it's not explicitly naming a country (ignoring the fact that you have stuff that is considered anime that has either been made in the west or a collaboration between eastern and western studios) as an entire descriptor.
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A simple “jrpg” label isn’t quite clear enough to keep the anime at bay - genshin impact is not from Japan or a turn based RPG but still must be kept far from me at all times.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Cool, not video game genres That's why I specified movie, yes
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Randalor posted:Non-story driven: Various rogue-likes, the various Souls games, pokemon to some extent depending on the generation. Basically "The plot is an excuse" games. Anime RPG is exactly the same as JPRG because it's just subbing Anime in for Japan, thus reducing an entire country to a single facet of pop culture. You are exactly the thing you are pretending to fight against.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Cool, not video game genres Eurojank
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christmas boots posted:That's why I specified movie, yes Yeah, they're irrelevant, I agree
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:Eurojank That's a way of life
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Crowetron posted:Anime RPG is exactly the same as JPRG because it's just subbing Anime in for Japan, thus reducing an entire country to a single facet of pop culture. You are exactly the thing you are pretending to fight against. There are cartoons widely considered to be anime made outside of Japan and its a term that doesn't single out a specific country. I'm not the one that first suggested it, I just listed it with other terms people could use to describe RPGs that doesn't say "This game is from Japan, even if it's not from Japan".
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Randalor posted:There are cartoons widely considered to be anime made outside of Japan Gonna go out on a limb and guess that you work for Netflix
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There's a handful, but anime is still overwhelmingly associated with Japan to the point that I don't think it meaningfully avoids the issue with the original term.
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could probably ask a couple more Japanese devs what they think about it
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ookiimarukochan posted:Gonna go out on a limb and guess that you work for Netflix Don't be ridiculous. Clearly I work for WB and personally killed Teen Titans. christmas boots posted:There's a handful, but anime is still overwhelmingly associated with Japan to the point that I don't think it meaningfully avoids the issue with the original term. That's fair, I was just including it because OPAONI suggested it earlier. Cartoon-RPG work better?
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:Eurojank Britpop, Americanada, K-Pop,
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hawowanlawow posted:could probably ask a couple more Japanese devs what they think about it What, and give them the chance to Japan-splain some more? 
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I like RPGs from Japan
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Randalor posted:There are cartoons widely considered to be anime made outside of Japan and its a term that doesn't single out a specific country. I'm not the one that first suggested it, I just listed it with other terms people could use to describe RPGs that doesn't say "This game is from Japan, even if it's not from Japan". My point is that Anime RPG is dismissive of Japanese developers in exactly the same way YoshiP was saying JRPG is. It's saying "everything those people make is anime". It makes you sound like a hypocrite just using this discussion as a cudgel to feel superior to people, rather than someone actually trying to find a solution to the stated issue. Because changing a term isn't going to fix racism in the gaming world, but actually addressing that is a long process that won't give you the instant high of a quick internet burn. Randalor posted:That's fair, I was just including it because OPAONI suggested it earlier. Cartoon-RPG work better? Cartoon as a genre has a long history of dismissive and belittling tones so again you're just swapping words around without changing intent at all. Crowetron has a new favorite as of 22:40 on Mar 8, 2023 |
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Cool Kids Club Soda posted:What, and give them the chance to Japan-splain some more? well it would definitely be more interesting than reading someone not-from-Japan-splain it
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Randalor posted:Don't be ridiculous. Clearly I work for WB and personally killed Teen Titans. Eh, I'm not really sold on the idea of breaking it down by visual aesthetics. I think looking at mechanics, gameplay, or even how railroaded the narrative is might be a better way of breaking things down. I don't think you'll get everything we've historically called a "JRPG" under one definition and honestly I think that's for the best anyway.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Britpop, Americanada, K-Pop, J-pop, j-rock, j-horror, j-cinema.
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Jesus Christ, just don't use the term JRPG; I don't get why so many of you have to be so stupid about this.
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Perhaps we should work on some unwieldy acronym like MMORPG to replace the already amorphous and vague and sprawling umbrella term? I'm really surprised that stuck around. Do people call them "morpigs"? I've never heard anyone phoneticize it but I imagine it would sound like that if someone did.
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credburn posted:Perhaps we should work on some unwieldy acronym like MMORPG to replace the already amorphous and vague and sprawling umbrella term? I'm really surprised that stuck around. Do people call them "morpigs"? I've never heard anyone phoneticize it but I imagine it would sound like that if someone did. Wow clones
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Leave posted:Jesus Christ, just don't use the term JRPG; I don't get why so many of you have to be so stupid about this. I agree that we should differentiate them by calling them "Good RPGS", I just think Anime RPG or Cartoon RPG are exactly as dismissive as JRPG. credburn posted:Perhaps we should work on some unwieldy acronym like MMORPG to replace the already amorphous and vague and sprawling umbrella term? I'm really surprised that stuck around. Do people call them "morpigs"? I've never heard anyone phoneticize it but I imagine it would sound like that if someone did. FF14-likes.
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credburn posted:Perhaps we should work on some unwieldy acronym like MMORPG to replace the already amorphous and vague and sprawling umbrella term? I'm really surprised that stuck around. Do people call them "morpigs"? I've never heard anyone phoneticize it but I imagine it would sound like that if someone did. Live Service Games
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Leave posted:Jesus Christ, just don't use the term JRPG; I don't get why so many of you have to be so stupid about this. But some people in this very thread are against having an any word, that classifies a distinct style of games coming from this particular geographic location. No words, no problems.
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I just call them "late for dinner"
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BioEnchanted posted:I just call them "late for dinner" NO! Call them anything else, just not that!
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Issaries posted:But some people in this very thread are against having an any word, that classifies a distinct style of games coming from this particular geographic location. SQERPG? square and enix pretty much invented the genre and given the term metroidvania, people don't have a problem using trademarked names to name genres.
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Next thing on the stand is K-pop. Edit: SquartPG Push El Burrito has a new favorite as of 23:26 on Mar 8, 2023 |
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Aside from the clunky way it rolls off the tongue, that's the first descriptor name I've liked. SqueePG? No that's worse.
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Japanese rpg English fish and chips sim American <i have been advise by my lawyers to stop>
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Persona games occupy the same kind of niche, so perhaps SquAtlus
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How about a portmanteau/half rhyme? SquaRPG.
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Just call them Good RPGs. It's easy to remember. SMT Nocturne is a Good RPG. Mass Effect is not a Good RPG. See? Easy.
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Ambitious Spider posted:SQERPG? square and enix pretty much invented the genre and given the term metroidvania, people don't have a problem using trademarked names to name genres. The whole issue here is trying to shove a SQERPG into a round (eyed) hole christmas boots posted:Persona games occupy the same kind of niche, so perhaps SquAtlus e: Breakin' it down with the SquAtilus Cool Kids Club Soda has a new favorite as of 23:38 on Mar 8, 2023 |
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Cool Kids Club Soda posted:The whole issue here is trying to shove a SQERPG into a round (eyed) hole If it reminds you of Square or Atlus games, they're SquAtRPGs. Next time you want an excellent RPG experience, remember to "pop a SquAt!"
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rodbeard posted:Is mayonnaise an instrument? How do blankets work? What are frogs? More importantly, *why* are frogs?
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Just call em Menu RPGs, they're RPGs whose imputs are largely defined by selecting stuff from menus, a non-derogatory judgement-free accurate descriptor. If you have to attack a guy by going into a menu and selecting "attack," that counts, as well as the various other actions that define an RPGs central gameplay loop. There, that covers most non-mmo Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest and Atlus RPGs and Earthbound and Undertale and that whole drat grab bag. It notably excludes Elder Scrolls and Mass Effect, but could arguably include the Infinity Engine games, but gently caress it those are close enough for taxonomic purposes. Arguably Eve Online would count under this but that's more a Spreadsheet MMO Asterite34 has a new favorite as of 01:31 on Mar 9, 2023 |
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