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Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 days!

The_Rob posted:

One of the things I hate about wwe is that they constantly show you what you just saw. You come back from commercial and they’re recapping what I watched before commercial then they talk forever. Like shut up and show me something cool.

To be fair, the one person that WWE programming is designed to appeal to has severe dementia brought on by cocaine and steroid abuse, so they have to constantly remind him of what just happened a few minutes ago so he doesn't forget and rewrite the show while it's on the air

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El Generico
Feb 3, 2009

Birds revere you and consider you one of their own.

You are welcome in their holy places.

The_Rob posted:

One of the things I hate about wwe is that they constantly show you what you just saw. You come back from commercial and they’re recapping what I watched before commercial then they talk forever. Like shut up and show me something cool.

There's got to be a happy medium between no recaps and the promotion assuming you're the Memento guy

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


El Generico posted:

There's got to be a happy medium between no recaps and the promotion assuming you're the Memento guy

There is, but it's at a different place for each person.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i'd be happy with no recaps at all but announcers talking about stuff that happened a little bit during a match that isn't very important. not going on diatribes and ignoring the match but saying "how about that blibbabababbabbababab" and the other guy saying "yeah, asdgfasdgagdsg" and then getting back to the match. real words however. but i also know that some people hate when the attention is off of in-ring action. and i respect that. it's why i'm going to let them do what someone else wants.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
This seems to be branching off into two versions of "spend more time reacting/recapping".

WWE does recaps/previews over and over and over. Ricky Starks is going to talk. Ricky Starks is talking! Ricky Starks got attacked by Juice Robinson. Juice Robinson just attacked Ricky Starks! Ricky Starks was attacked by Juice Robinson earlier tonight. Juice Robinson came back earlier tonight! Folks, remember when Ricky Starks was talking earlier last night? He was attacked by Juice Robinson!

In kayfabe, the commentators probably don't have a lot of thoughts about this beyond "yeah someone is back and they attacked another wrestler, probably going to lead to an issue!" which is you know, something that happens every week. Commentators fixating on it and reiterating it a dozen times does not really add anything to the story, just play out the angle and maybe reference "Juice Robinson is back and will be wrestling next week, what will Ricky think of that?" in Excalibur's rundown.

The Bryan Danielson thing feels different because it's (a very good and stands-on-its-own) pretape promo where someone who main evented their last PPV tearfully implies that he might be retiring, leaving AEW, taking an extended break, or a combination of two of those things.

In kayfabe, this is pretty momentous news. Is Danielson really retiring? Will he ever be back? Did MJF end someone's career, or did Bryan end his own career pushing for punishing stipulations? Is Hangman (or Mox) headed down the same path with their forever war? Do the BCC even notice or care about what happened to Danielson?

I have not gone back to watch and maybe they did make some reference to it in the next match (ft. Moxley and Claudio) but selling this particular angle as something serious that could change the future course of AEW would have made dramatic/kayfabe sense. As it is, sort of brushing by it with "wow, lotta emotion there" makes it obvious that Danielson is just taking a little time off and will probably be back in time to set up something for Double or Nothing.

That doesn't mean it ruined the show or ruined the promo or etc. but it's also a different issue than "don't explain anything" vs. "repeat everything as if the audience is a baby", but like that it's also a matter of taste.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Just a wee 2-3 minutes each week recapping things. Just for emphasis and pacing. I'm no saying go the full WCW "Who cares what's happening in the ring we've gotta talk about Hulk Hogan" way of doing things but a wee recap here and there to give emotional weight to storylines.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
I bet that if I took a stopwatch to the latest Dynamite there would be in excess of 3 minutes recapping things.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

Mr. Squishy posted:

I bet that if I took a stopwatch to the latest Dynamite there would be in excess of 3 minutes recapping things.

Not to mention recapping in this day and age really doesn’t matter because they just upload the important stuff to YouTube immediately anyway.

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



quote:

I do not believe WWE will sell. Vince selling to the Saudi’s is far fetched imo.

I could actually see WWE merging/acquiring a mid-tier cable channel outright. This would enable WWE to own their means of distribution, sell ads on their content and be mentioned with other big content players that want tv shows and films.

Cable is not dying as fast as people think it will.

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD
https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1634144012423643138?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.

is OKC Armchair the same guy who was saying RoH was worse than Chris Benoit?

e: no, but he was the guy I was thinking of

Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Mar 10, 2023

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.
Personally I think some other beloved niche promotion is solely responsible for all the bad things and I will not be elaborating on what those things are.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

bebaloorpabopalo posted:

Personally I think some other beloved niche promotion is solely responsible for all the bad things and I will not be elaborating on what those things are.

JAPW knows what it did. :colbert:

Nativity In Black
Oct 24, 2012

If you're gonna have roads, you're gonna have roadkill.

Have to assume that this dude just doesn't like Owens and Zayne

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

bebaloorpabopalo posted:

Personally I think some other beloved niche promotion is solely responsible for all the bad things and I will not be elaborating on what those things are.

The impact that iwa-ms had on this sport is negative and long lasting

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/skinnymysterio/status/1634208317588340737

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

They are right I did go nuts for it.

beepo
Oct 8, 2000
Forum Veteran
https://twitter.com/avbiswas/status/1634045103667855361?t=mKuCvoy94ezQtijUd1CQqw&s=19

The appropriate time to have run each match from this upcoming week's Dynamite would have been either last week or at least the week after next, but definitely not Wednesday.

We will only be able to determine the right matches to have run on this week's Dynamite once they release the card for the following weeks show and we can identify all the matches TK is botching by running at the objectively wrong time.

beepo fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Mar 10, 2023

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

"WWE says they're selling the company but what I think they mean by that is they're going to buy another company."

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


beepo posted:

https://twitter.com/avbiswas/status/1634045103667855361?t=mKuCvoy94ezQtijUd1CQqw&s=19

The appropriate time to have run each match from this upcoming week's Dynamite would have been either last week or at least the week after next, but definitely not Wednesday.

We will only be able to determine the right matches to have run on this week's Dynamite once they release the card for the following weeks show and we can identify all the matches TK is botching by running at the objectively wrong time.

Stu's back? That's nice

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

I started watching ROH back in 2004. Force these wankers to watch the entire year run of JBL as world champion and then tell me about the damage ROH did.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.

forkboy84 posted:

Stu's back? That's nice

They're in Canada, they book Stu when he doesn't have to leave the country.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/ridiculouscrabs/status/1634328227228336129

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

ah, everybody who ever says a finish they didn't like ruined a great match

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗
who has time to watch an hour of wrestling?

the coward tony khan needs to go back to saturday ppvs if he's gonna have shows as long and good as revolution. My friends went to bed before the scrum so I had to post about it instead of watching with them

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!

beepo posted:

https://twitter.com/avbiswas/status/1634045103667855361?t=mKuCvoy94ezQtijUd1CQqw&s=19

The appropriate time to have run each match from this upcoming week's Dynamite would have been either last week or at least the week after next, but definitely not Wednesday.

We will only be able to determine the right matches to have run on this week's Dynamite once they release the card for the following weeks show and we can identify all the matches TK is botching by running at the objectively wrong time.

And if this match had been announced for later and replaced with some other match they'd just be complaining that they were wasting time on a pointless no-story match

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

I get this attitude tbh. I'll avoid watching/reading/playing anything long and brilliant that's unfamiliar and instead do the shorter, blander thing repeatedly because it's familiar and needs less investment.

Not saying its a good attitude but it's the one that got me into pro wrestling in the first place.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


beepo posted:

https://twitter.com/avbiswas/status/1634045103667855361?t=mKuCvoy94ezQtijUd1CQqw&s=19

The appropriate time to have run each match from this upcoming week's Dynamite would have been either last week or at least the week after next, but definitely not Wednesday.

We will only be able to determine the right matches to have run on this week's Dynamite once they release the card for the following weeks show and we can identify all the matches TK is botching by running at the objectively wrong time.

Speaking has someone who has a ringside front row ticket for this show


gently caress yes I am mad hype this is the perfect time to have this match

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Gonzo McFee posted:

I get this attitude tbh. I'll avoid watching/reading/playing anything long and brilliant that's unfamiliar and instead do the shorter, blander thing repeatedly because it's familiar and needs less investment.

Not saying its a good attitude but it's the one that got me into pro wrestling in the first place.

It's an understandable attitude. I know I will have x "good chemicals" with an episode of some YouTube thing, while a movie could range from 0 to multiple times x, for two three times the time, nah, youtube it is.

Like you say its not a great attitude, but it can be managed. For example I know MJF and Bryan were putting on a banger, so I knew it would be more enjoyable than an hour of youtube for sure. I don't think I'd have watched a 1hr Ironman between Hobbs and Adam Cole with the same ease, regardless of actual quality in the end.

Reviews help too. I was even more excited to watch the match when I heard people were into it, same with the Omega/Okada matches. It doesn't guarantee my fun, but it does give more evidence to support it

Eat My Fuc
May 29, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!
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https://twitter.com/d80265112/status/1556961048024031232?s=46&t=bbVAetI2_DV7aCjhIGsFZA

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
Raj is....really, really mad at QT for some reason?

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634362091879669760

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634365501177749504

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634365913079373824

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634366254227292160

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634366719895691264

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634369461288570880

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634371538337267712

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634374344674803712

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634376311149060096

https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1634376708550983680

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD
QT worked Raj up so much he went on a massive twitter meltdown. What a great heel

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER
He's honestly always been pretty good at working people like this.

JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019

Man there are so many freaks in wrestling journalism lmao

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

JUNGLE BOY posted:

Man there are so many freaks in wrestling journalism lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzngVtvog3o

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

That guy seems like he has some real problems. I’ll never understand why people who aren’t wrestlers or directly involved in wrestling get so loving heated about this stuff.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Have a feeling some of these might get deleted when someone sobers up.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!
Isn't Raj Giri the guy who baselessly declared that Hikaru Shida slept her way into AEW and for some reason nobody questioned him on that?

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013






Has Raj been introduced to the new phenom sweeping the wrestling world, BEAST MODE?

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Bonk
Aug 4, 2002

Douche Baggins
Raj pulling the classic "I don't care, let me tweet a thousand times to demonstrate how much I actually don't care".


The_Rob posted:

One of the things I hate about wwe is that they constantly show you what you just saw. You come back from commercial and they’re recapping what I watched before commercial then they talk forever. Like shut up and show me something cool.
My happy medium for AEW would be that the Dynamite ad breaks that are full-screen on TNT should be PiP recaps without audio, and the ones on Fite that are just the logo/music should be recaps without commentary audio. Just replay some cool footage during ads, we don't need it explained, especially if we already saw it.

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