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cinci zoo sniper posted:The EU has generally stricter requirements, yes, but also, among the EU member states, Poland has some of the strictest. Is a bank to bank wire transfer the best way to do this?
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I'll admit that I'm not massively plugged into Polish culture and politics, but drat this an incredible hill to die on.
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Mar 9, 2023 18:58
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Mr. Apollo posted:That's good to know thanks. Yes, standard bank to bank wire is not necessarily the least fussy version, but it's guaranteed to arrive if you go along with the red tape. Xarn posted:I think EU's KYC equivalent is for transactions over 15k EUR (while US's is 10k USD). Not always, no. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A32015L0849 2015/849 art. 11 posted:Member States shall ensure that obliged entities apply customer due diligence measures in the following circumstances: 2015/849 art. 3 (9) posted:(9) ‘transfer of funds’ means any transaction at least partially carried out by electronic means on behalf of a payer through a payment service provider, with a view to making funds available to a payee through a payment service provider, irrespective of whether the payer and the payee are the same person and irrespective of whether the payment service provider of the payer and that of the payee are one and the same, including: There are quite a few landmines.
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hey while it's still legal for me to say, gently caress jp2 and gently caress the vatican I think it's already illegal for me to tell duda to go gently caress himself so somebody else here will have to do it for me As for the other thing, 15kpln is a decent chunk of change, well above the average monthly wage. It's not a huge amount of money but I think it's enough that if it's coming from a foreign bank it could trigger extra attention. For this sort of thing I always use revolut or transferwise and skip the bank (not an ad).
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cat botherer posted:I'll admit that I'm not massively plugged into Polish culture and politics, but drat this an incredible hill to die on.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Yes, standard bank to bank wire is not necessarily the least fussy version, but it's guaranteed to arrive if you go along with the red tape. Comte de Saint-Germain posted:As for the other thing, 15kpln is a decent chunk of change, well above the average monthly wage. It's not a huge amount of money but I think it's enough that if it's coming from a foreign bank it could trigger extra attention. For this sort of thing I always use revolut or transferwise and skip the bank (not an ad). Thanks. I'm going to see what exactly their bank is asking for and I'll take it from there. If it starts becoming too onerous then I'll try one of the other methods mentioned. I guess the issue is due to the money coming from overseas. My friend owns an automobile recycler and he sells lots of cars and car parts around the EU so he regularly gets large wires to his business account.
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Mar 9, 2023 20:12
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This happens a whole loving lot with international remittances, because the sanction lists banks screen against are incredibly imprecise. Wise, Xoom, Remitly are all decent (which is not saying a lot) options and are usually cheaper than international wires, but ultimately the compliance gods still need their sacrifice.
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thank you for the new thread title
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:thank you for the new thread title 
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a podcast for cats posted:This happens a whole loving lot with international remittances, because the sanction lists banks screen against are incredibly imprecise. Anyway, thanks for the advice and information. I'll stop into my bank later today and see what exactly ING wants. Hopefully it's nothing too crazy.
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I sent $2500 USD to Estonia recently via Zelle (this is not an endorsement of Zelle), and I had to do it in two transactions 24 hours apart because it capped me at $2000. Not sure if this is a Zelle thing or a Baltic states thing, but maybe someone can use that info.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:I sent $2500 USD to Estonia recently via Zelle (this is not an endorsement of Zelle), and I had to do it in two transactions 24 hours apart because it capped me at $2000. Not sure if this is a Zelle thing or a Baltic states thing, but maybe someone can use that info.
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a podcast for cats posted:This happens a whole loving lot with international remittances, because the sanction lists banks screen against are incredibly imprecise. Xoom? What a blast from the past https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xoom_(web_hosting) quote:Xoom was an early dot-com company that provided free unlimited space web hosting, similar to GeoCities. The domain "xoom.com" is now held by the Xoom Corporation, an international-focused money transfer website run by PayPal.
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Jesus, everyone been sending money to poland. Here I'm complaining about having to use western union to send $200
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:I sent $2500 USD to Estonia recently via Zelle (this is not an endorsement of Zelle), and I had to do it in two transactions 24 hours apart because it capped me at $2000. Not sure if this is a Zelle thing or a Baltic states thing, but maybe someone can use that info. That's a Zelle thing
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If anyone needs to test sending large amounts of money to central/eastern Europe, I'm here to help.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:That's a Zelle thing Mr. Apollo posted:I was thinking about that but I don’t want to trigger any more filters by making it looking like I’m trying to skirt the rules (which I am but not for illegal reasons). Exactly. It's a good way to make sure ordinary transactions look like structuring. Avoid splitting payments if you can. If your bank or payment institution of choice has clearly stated transaction limits (in addition to the invisible AML/CFT/fraud check ones), contact them in advance, notify them of your payment and the purpose of it and you'll see much better rates of success.
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Not yellow enough.
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My acquaintance ran into similar problems when trying to wire much smaller amount from Canada to Poland. In the end he used Paypal and Western Union which worked fine As for the bill protecting good name of JP2 do note that it was a resolution and not an actual law (just posturing). So at least for now zoomers won't go to jail for sharing yellow pope memes
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I am not even mad anymore about all that insane poo poo PIS does (unless it's Czarnek because this dude should burn alive), I am more angry that loving cowards from KO just chickened out and decided not to come to voting.
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I'm happy that all of 5 Poland-based posters noone ever tries to defend PiS. Fuckos got about 40% support from all those aligned parties. Guess we're very much not representative. I'm at the stage where I completely tune out local news to have some sanity remaining. I found out about JP2137 bill from here.
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In another  move, public television will air JP2's homilies after evening news from now onNot even hiding they want to build theocracy anymore. As for KO not showing up I've seen it argued that them voting wouldn't make a difference and they didn't want to drive away religious voters. In my opinion completely lacking balls and being lazy is a bigger problem, but maybe I'm crazy
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alex314 posted:I'm happy that all of 5 Poland-based posters noone ever tries to defend PiS. Fuckos got about 40% support from all those aligned parties. Guess we're very much not representative. I have major political disagreements with edit: but nearly everyone I know lives in warsaw or krakow and half are foreigners Comte de Saint-Germain fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Mar 10, 2023 |
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Maybe I’m numb to all this. In the end, PiS won fair and square twice and everybody on the other side prefers to squabble, rather than come together and just vote maybe MAYBEEE not for your one dream candidate but for anyone else in the opposition so the PiS fucks can be overcome. But we can’t have nice things. Also, I’ve been around to remember Wojtyła-mania comes and goes. In the mid-90s the church and ol’ Karol were viciously criticized, because the old commie left were still around (the very same ones who horshoe’d into PiS 20 years later). I also think 80% of kids don’t give a poo poo about JPII and ultimately PiS is looking down the barrel as their electorate slowly dies of (unfortunately over the next 20 years).
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I mean, current main opposing party is also defending JP2, just without crazy shenanigans.
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Yeah, lest people forget, just before losing to PiS, the Kopacz PO government made some stellar moves, like opposing partnerships and being anti-abortion.
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New pis narrative: No one in the US desecrates the memory of Reagan No one admonishes the founding fathers for owning slaves
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I still lol about how salty Pis was when Biden won.
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Anne Frank Funk posted:New pis narrative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU
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Precisely the point, I assume is to put people who criticize established figures on the level of “no one”
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I don't think the intent is that deep, they are simply banking on the fact that 99% of the people in Eastern Europe have literally zero idea about Western politics and culture outside of the mass monoculture, so they have no retort to stupid claims like that. Especially among piss voters.
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https://twitter.com/6_DzienTygodnia/status/1634625338830364673 Dude just compared JP2 protecting child molesters to Founding Fathers having slaves and claims that "nobody sane" accuses FF of supporting slavery. I don't even know... there's so much to unpack here, let's just throw away the whole suitcase,
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Anne Frank Funk posted:New pis narrative: Szarrukin posted:https://twitter.com/6_DzienTygodnia/status/1634625338830364673 As an American, please please stop using my country's shameful history to justify your own stupidity.
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At that point, I guess someone should explain the cenzopapist memes. Anybody up for it?Szarrukin posted:https://twitter.com/6_DzienTygodnia/status/1634625338830364673 The funniest part about this argument is that even if it was true that nobody begrudges the FFs keeping slaves - still nobody denies that they did
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Hell, Thomas Jefferson had children with one of his slaves, and the children were part of his slave property until they escaped or were freed by him.
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RedSnapper posted:At that point, I guess someone should explain the cenzopapist memes. Anybody up for it? What's there to explain? Polish *chans started making controversial images of the Pope and since we were in the post-ironic phase of cultural humour it got picked up by young people. I literally grew up with the stuff and find it some of the most hillarous poo poo on the internet ever. The bigger the tragedy, the better the memes. Comte de Saint-Germain posted:I have major political disagreements with Hell yeah brother same in Gdańsk. Yeah the loving no-response of our opposition pisses me off to no end. Like I was seriously considering casting my vote for PSL, since there're the only party that hasn't done anything that would completely eliminate them from my voting list but last week they decided to gently caress it all up. Plus it's fun to be on the winning team and they're always the winning team  But the narrative of "we don't have any program aside from 'Move PiS away from the parliment" which everyone is currently promoting isn't working. Since they're actually doing what everyone wants to do but doesn't want to say out loud - getting their friends rich through lucrative posts in government companies, milking the EU and getting a stronger and stronger position in the Parliment by having people who will vote for them no matter what. It's not sustainable, will hurt us in the long run, but nobody is proposing a reasonable alternative. Also a real shame that the way to keep old voters in check is basically "gently caress them kids".
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Kikas posted:But the narrative of "we don't have any program aside from 'Move PiS away from the parliment" which everyone is currently promoting isn't working. It sure would work better if the self-professed opposition leaders didn't spend literal decades backpedaling on any statement or proposal contrasting PiS the second they get a whiff of maybe snatching a percent or two of their more casual voters. While simultaneously rejecting the mere possibility of having any identity other than "how about not-PiS?".
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 Does your justice minister carry a piece to a press conference? The Polish one does! Ziobro explained that he has a sports license for his gun and he was at a shooting range before the scheduled event and that he’s legally obligated to keep the gun on him as his limousine does not have a gun locker. He’s the loving worse. This is the dude behind the legal system actively pursuing anti-abortion cases, crushing LGBTQ+ rights and nominating lovely judges. Just yesterday one of his judges reduced a prison term for a guy who plowed into a couple with a kid at 140 km/h at a pedestrian crossing in downtown Warsaw, because the killed man “shares responsibility by not staying vigilant”. Oh, also his prosecutors are investigating a case of a teenager that committed the crime of *checks notes* streaming a mass to TikTok?
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