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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

eSports Chaebol posted:

by all indications (even the western press when they actually directly address it) the crackdown with the wide rear end net ended years ago. there probably aren’t any camps at all anymore, just prisons. unlike America which has ended all forms of long term incarceration lol

this is also why all these articles have to avoid using facts and figures anymore because zenzs data is now old enough that its not obviously relevant to any contemporary genocide claim even if it wasnt misleadingly cherry picked bullshit which to be clear it was

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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Orange Devil posted:

It's water. Big water. Ocean water. It can go both ways.

Looking at a map of ocean currents it's going to north America.

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


Some Guy TT posted:

this is also why all these articles have to avoid using facts and figures anymore because zenzs data is now old enough that its not obviously relevant to any contemporary genocide claim even if it wasnt misleadingly cherry picked bullshit which to be clear it was

Thankfully now that they don't have to cite Zenz and tell you that the numbers are DIRECT FROM THE SEESEEPEE they can also go back to telling us that every number China reports is a lie. They stay winning

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Telluric Whistler posted:

Thankfully now that they don't have to cite Zenz and tell you that the numbers are DIRECT FROM THE SEESEEPEE they can also go back to telling us that every number China reports is a lie. They stay winning

to be fair "they were reporting accurate numbers and THE WORLD was aghast at what they were doing so they were shamed into reporting fake numbers" is a rational train of thought, even if they're driving it off the tracks

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
let the copoum begin

https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1634472267278168064?t=tGeX2LLA9q38917-8ejVBg&s=19

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

appeasing china by trying to avoid potential regional conflict that will kill millions of people

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
lol remember when everyone was convinced Evergrande was gonna collapse the Chinese economy

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
You know this Iran-Saudi deal is that it was kept in secret until the surprise announcement. That's why the western think tank coping phase has been very chaotic and aimless.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012


My china is not the region's superpower shirt etc. etc.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
imagine being in some cpc meeting watching the us economy right now

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

stephenthinkpad posted:

You know this Iran-Saudi deal is that it was kept in secret until the surprise announcement. That's why the western think tank coping phase has been very chaotic and aimless.

its such a big embarrassment for the west, all media coverage of it is met with so much suspicion

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




Ok now ask yourself why any country does anything for the US if not appeasing them?

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Centrist Committee posted:

imagine being in some cpc meeting watching the us economy right now

tbh I don't think china has much bloodlust for USA yet. We will get them there tho

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Ok now ask yourself why any country does anything for the US if not appeasing them?

just as Americans think the federal budget is like a household budget, they too think that international relations is like a schoolyard popularity contest

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

Antonymous posted:

tbh I don't think china has much bloodlust for USA yet. We will get them there tho

Xi's latest speech at the 2nd session was a pretty big bullet aimed straight at the US. Most direct language used by Xi in a long time concerning relations with the US. Pretty much warning the country to prepare for all out confiict with the US.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


is there a rule for this in the RBIA?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


Volkisch Turk from Austria doesn't support his brethren. very strange

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

gradenko_2000 posted:

lol remember when everyone was convinced Evergrande was gonna collapse the Chinese economy

keeping Americans convinced that China is on the brink of collapse for the past 15 years seems like firm bedrock to build a "we can beat them in a hot war" narrative on

break-up breakdown
Mar 6, 2010

Mantis42 posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/11/opinion/china-us-relationship.html

Surprisingly reasonable NYTimes editorial with unhinged reader comments.

quote:

Mr. Blinken said the United States had tried with little success to persuade or compel China to abide by American rules or the rules of international institutions. He described China as increasingly determined to impose its priorities on other nations. “China is the only country with both the intent to reshape the international order and, increasingly, the economic, diplomatic, military and technological power to do it,” he said. “Beijing’s vision would move us away from the universal values that have sustained so much of the world’s progress over the past 75 years.”

this guy's a real fuckin comedian!!

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
oh no not the universal values that have sustained so much of the world’s progress into the toilet

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1634920218794557440?s=20

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010


Mantis42 posted:

Say the words: "Nobel Peace Prize Winner Xi Jinping"

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Wait, are the sanctions supposed to prevent people from talking to the sanctioned individual? Like could America close my bank accounts if I had a nice chat with this dude?

Mantis42 posted:

Say the words: "Nobel Peace Prize Winner Xi Jinping"

I don't think you "get" the nobel peace price.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:


more and more people are saying this

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Mantis42 posted:

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1497175690080362511?s=20&t=awn7yaipaq0fDX5sb-F21Q

Say the words: "Nobel Peace Prize Winner Recep Tayyip Erdoğan"

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

Nobel Peace Prize Winner Xi Jinping

quote:

Nobel Peace Prize Winner Recep Tayyip Erdoğan

:hmmyes:

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Mantis42 posted:


Say the words: "Nobel Peace Prize Winner Xi Jinping"

not yet his greatest achievement needs to come the same year trump negotiates peace with korea and or ukraine so we can watch the nobel committee twist itself into a pretzel arguing that greta thunberg earned the peace prize somehow

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Some Guy TT posted:

not yet his greatest achievement needs to come the same year trump negotiates peace with korea and or ukraine so we can watch the nobel committee twist itself into a pretzel arguing that greta thunberg earned the peace prize somehow

they give another one to Kissinger

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

remember when Fan Bingbing was imprisoned by the CCP?

she was at the oscars lol

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
the crimes against humanity of making a famous megamillionaire tax evader to a less rich and famous megamillionaire

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

a society should be measured by how it treats its most well off citizens

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Antonymous posted:

remember when Fan Bingbing was imprisoned by the CCP?

she was at the oscars lol



The lady in the middle looks like she's wearing a duvet

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

fart simpson posted:

a society should be measured by how it treats its most well off citizens

lol

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


indigi posted:

to be fair "they were reporting accurate numbers and THE WORLD was aghast at what they were doing so they were shamed into reporting fake numbers" is a rational train of thought, even if they're driving it off the tracks

Yeah true, just one of those standards that seems to only apply when Countries We Don't Like report the numbers. Dying WITH COVID

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts

GlassEye-Boy posted:

Xi's latest speech at the 2nd session was a pretty big bullet aimed straight at the US. Most direct language used by Xi in a long time concerning relations with the US. Pretty much warning the country to prepare for all out confiict with the US.

Oh poo poo can you link it? thanks

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

fart simpson posted:

a society should be measured by how it treats its most well off citizens

:nice:

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
china doing amazing things

https://twitter.com/azgeopolitics/status/1635220907445850117?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
all the diplomatic moves china has been doing recently makes me think about how quickly they move whenever they decide to do something, like build infrastructure or invest in tech or whatever.

if only we could follow suit but alas, that would be authouritarianism

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
there is an old Vulcan proverb, "only Xi could go to Tehran"

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
So regarding Tsai's US visit. Even from the article that broke it , it smelt like a semi official press from Taiwan (senior writers from Japan and Taiwan that connects to DPP, got revised very quickly to remove couple phrases that made it sound like DPP was trying to avoid confrontation w Beijing etc etc), so far I have hear very little reaction comments from the Chinese side, not even from CPC aligned youtube channels.

I got a feeling Beijing decided to play it low profit and put the redlines in the actual speeches that Tsai is going to deliver in the US. And they are not even warming about potential redline stepping unlike the giant buzz before the Pelosi visit. I got to say most netizens can be manipulated by social media so easily, most of them aren't aware how big a deal this is for Tsai and how big a balance act she has to walk. It's like walking inches over the 2 elephants wresting behind her.

And now I am hearing talk of Xi visiting Putin in Russia. Again just casually dash out of this news without any warming shots from the US side. Just try to contain the significance of it. I am not convinced this visit will happen. But if it does happen very quickly and it also gets minimal warmings and quotes from Belinken and Sullivan and Biden and the blob, then I think the US and China have secretly reached a deal on these 2 visits.

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