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Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

happyhippy posted:

He's getting deported under the new rules.
To a place called Leichestercity.
Sounds German.

Worse, he's being sent to......... Accrington Stanley. :magical:

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HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Accrington Stanley? Who are they?!

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

HopperUK posted:

Accrington Stanley? Who are they?!

*In my best "say the line Bart" voice*:.... Exactly

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

HopperUK posted:

Accrington Stanley? Who are they?!

that guy is in prison now for murder

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1635009624393891840

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/mrsraven59/status/1634481662032760832?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q

:stare:

Y'know, I'm starting to think the lady who once confessed that she managed to give herself permanent brain damage from the massive amounts of cocaine she consumed might have a teensy bit of a substance abuse problem.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...
I'm enjoying seeing whether or not the English will buy the "The Monarchy's not that bad actually because he's hanging his nonce brother out to dry" narrative.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeahhhh, just drank a bottle of whiskey, smashed some amphetamines, stole a scroll off of some rabbis and turned it into a giant blunt. Please read my article in the spectatotrer it was written in entirely sound mind.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

The royal estate did not become so disgustingly wealthy by sharing our the wealth between every sibling

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Oh noes how will I survive on just £5m of taxpayer money for the rest of my life?

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Hope he can keep up his blackmail payments

E: Not can. The other one.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Greens abandoning opposition to NATO.

https://twitter.com/BrightGrn/status/1634933635462864897?s=20

Unrelated:

Tory shows signs of heart :blowmedownwithafeather:

https://twitter.com/electpoliticsuk/status/1635001560068689920?s=20

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Mar 13, 2023

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Notably just the English and Welsh Greens, with upper ranks still apparently a bit too close to Jorian Jenks Soil Yourself Association.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Guavanaut posted:

Notably just the English and Welsh Greens, with upper ranks still apparently a bit too close to Jorian Jenks Soil Yourself Association.

Yeah I'm still oscillating between Green & Plaid at the next general election. (Can I fix myself up to a dynamo & get free electricity?)

I'm not particularly enamoured of the greens (nimbys in environmentalist clothes) and to be fair not very sure what Plaid's offerings will be. But if it looked like Green were going to get a good run at it in my constituency then maybe I would.

But unless a miracle in the Labour Party occurs before then, I cannot bring myself to vote for Starmer's mob and am far from convinced they'll be better than the tories, not convinced at all that their 'we'll do it harder & tougher than the tories' rhetoric is merely a means to get into government and they won't actually be harder let alone their appalling behaviour to their more left members. And the thought of plastic-faced Wes Streeting being groomed as Starmer's successor (which I think they are doing) :barf:

But why oh why do all the politicians feel they must pander to the right? (rhetorical question).

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Thread

https://twitter.com/SairaIbrahim/status/1634865576970686464?s=20

Mourning Due
Oct 11, 2004

*~ missin u ~*
:canada:
Re Greenchat above:

I've heard people describe them as "Green Tories". Could someone point me to a good summary of their policies?

Labour waffling in this latest boat debate is the last straw for me, had thought about holding my nose & voting for Starmer's Labour but absolutely not now.

I'm a big environment & wildlife fan: what should scare me about the greens?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

In general a lot of green parties are not really about actual workable changes to society to improve environmental outcomes, they're touchy feely hippies or rural tories with a more agrarian bent.

Obviously they almost universally loathe nuclear power despite it being one of the better historical options for reducing pollution and carbon emissions. They also generally aren't particularly left wing and so often have little interest in economic policy which would reduce the amount of resource expenditure on useless work or consumption.

I would say they simply reflect the common conception of environmentalism, mired in personal choice performative gestures and largely unwilling to engage with the real meat of cutting capitalism's knees off.

I would personally suggest that environmentalism and left wing economics are functionally inseparable, because providing for everyone's needs necessitates protecting the environment because people can't live without it, and capitalism is fundamentally incapable of not destroying the environment so it has to be destroyed if you're going to protect it. The two are intertwined, so a good green party (and a red party) should have identical policies.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Mar 13, 2023

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

My green councillors seem to do a fair bit of good with local initiatives, cleaning litter, preserving historic green spaces and parks in town, and keeping some services going, but also are a bunch of NIMBYs against any new housing developments - apparently some empty farm fields near a housing estate and a golf course is pristine countryside worth preserving.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Mourning Due posted:

Re Greenchat above:

I've heard people describe them as "Green Tories". Could someone point me to a good summary of their policies?

Labour waffling in this latest boat debate is the last straw for me, had thought about holding my nose & voting for Starmer's Labour but absolutely not now.

I'm a big environment & wildlife fan: what should scare me about the greens?

“tories in wellies”

the german greens are something else though, opening up coal plants and turning out to be nato ultras. i do sometimes wonder if there’s something to the conspiracy theory that they’ve long been infiltrated by the oil and gas industry as a vector for antinuclear energy generation

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


The Greens are far from perfect but I think they're still in favour of scrapping tuition fees and nationalising rail, mail, water and energy which is more then you'll get from anyone else. UBI was also in the last manifesto.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
The icing on the cake. Another plastic labour face (is there a cloning factory somewhere?)

This very morning:

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1635184281667665922?s=20

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

The Greens have made a total mess of my once hometown Brighton, constructing a gigantic hideous eyesore on the beachfront and constantly alllowing huge festering piles of stinking rubbish to regularly pile up on every street corner in their ongoing pay war with Binmen

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


The green party is a wierd mix of environmental hippies lacking practical solutions (eg turning down new nuclear or hydro development to rely on wind, which is not really viable on its own) and then ex tory party nimbies who are incredibly upset that Boris planning shakeup means the field over the road from them (that they don't own) might grt planning permission to be a house, and now because of this care deeply about the environment insofar as "keeping green spaces green".

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Calling them "Tories in wellies" is just a continuation of this threads habit of "no true leftist"

Policies include
- Nationalise rail and energy and water
- scrapping University fees and wiping existing sent.
- 16 and 17 year olds can vote
- replace FPTP
- scraping the home office
- scrapping sales of weapons to other countries
- switching to a housing first approach and stop criminalising the homeless
- Tax income from investments/assets at the same level as the taxation of income from work,
- introduce UBI


The E&W greens are not perfect. They have some dumb policies, they have some terfs in their ranks. Want to moan they arnt left enough then I'm with you, but to call them Tories is just loving dumb.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Mar 13, 2023

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Although when faced with the prospect of corbyn doing a bunch of good left wing stuff they were just as keen to make cheap nonsense shots as the tories, so I don't really believe they actually care about any of that poo poo. They're in business for themselves and that's it.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
when I joined up with the greens all that time ago the :mad: "no more chernobyls!" :argh: were present but very much expected- but I wasn't expecting about as many green washing toryscum who wanted a bunch of tax breaks on their business because they put a solar panel up and said some nice things about a tree at some point

still, if I don't spoil my ballot they might get my vote




reet wimdy out there today, take care

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

OwlFancier posted:

Although when faced with the prospect of corbyn doing a bunch of good left wing stuff they were just as keen to make cheap nonsense shots as the tories, so I don't really believe they actually care about any of that poo poo. They're in business for themselves and that's it.

Yes that was Sian Berry, she wasn't very fond of him. Contrasted with Caroline Lucas publicly saying she wanted a German style coalition with Corbyn

"Corbynism will offer the Red; it will be enormously refreshing to at last have an opposition that will make a stand against the savagery of austerity and seek to take back key strategic industries such as the railways into public ownership,"

Sadly it never came to be. It had support from the majority of greens at the time.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Mar 13, 2023

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
I know the major Defence Correspondents are generally assumed to be in the pocket of the state, but I don’t ever expect them to be this unsubtle about it…

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1635180114286882816?s=20

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...

Answers Me posted:

I know the major Defence Correspondents are generally assumed to be in the pocket of the state, but I don’t ever expect them to be this unsubtle about it…

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1635180114286882816?s=20

I mean my sole interaction with the British Army was them training rifles on me and my brother as we lined up for school in the morning but even I would say that's fair comment.

If you're going to spend on the killbots, make sure you send them enough oil so that they don't breakdown before they reach their kill-limit.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

The icing on the cake. Another plastic labour face (is there a cloning factory somewhere?)

This very morning:

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1635184281667665922?s=20

Ashworth is married to known racist and misogynist Emilie Oldknow.
So, is he upset that Linekar used the bland, boring language he did when criticising the Tories?
Is he upset that Linekar refused to use any racist or misogynist language in his tweets?
Or is he just another performative hang-wringing New Labour oval office desperate to show how serious the party is about winning the votes of racists everywhere?

Who can tell?

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

makes it sound that linekers tweet was full of anti tory slurs, not a reasonable statement

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always


https://i.imgur.com/KHbuqUZ.gifv

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
Love how Labour's core press strategy is 'avoid upsetting racists at all costs'.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


kingturnip posted:

Ashworth is married to known racist and misogynist Emilie Oldknow.
So, is he upset that Linekar used the bland, boring language he did when criticising the Tories?
Is he upset that Linekar refused to use any racist or misogynist language in his tweets?
Or is he just another performative hang-wringing New Labour oval office desperate to show how serious the party is about winning the votes of racists everywhere?

Who can tell?

He forgot to mention Jeremy Corbyn is Hitler reincarnate. Inexcusable.


Mega Comrade posted:

Calling them "Tories in wellies" is just a continuation of this threads habit of "no true leftist"

Policies include
- Nationalise rail and energy and water
- scrapping University fees and wiping existing sent.
- 16 and 17 year olds can vote
- replace FPTP
- scraping the home office
- scrapping sales of weapons to other countries
- switching to a housing first approach and stop criminalising the homeless
- Tax income from investments/assets at the same level as the taxation of income from work,
- introduce UBI


The E&W greens are not perfect. They have some dumb policies, they have some terfs in their ranks. Want to moan they arnt left enough then I'm with you, but to call them Tories is just loving dumb.

Yeah, it turns out the environmental movement is a broad church. There's communists, liberals, Tories, probably even some fash and everything in between. There's definitely a chunk of the green movement that is dogshit, and that faction seems fairly prominent in the E&W Green, there's watermelons (red on the inside), mangoes (yellow on the inside) & Tories in wellies.

And if their nuclear policies are such a sticking point for you then join up. It's a far more democratic party than any of the major ones so you can have your say on that. Though goons horn for fission never ceases to boggle the mind, even if I can see the point of view more than before I signed up here.

It's like the SNP really, a broad church united by independence, with Tartan Tories and Socialists and melts.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Jel Shaker posted:

makes it sound that linekers tweet was full of anti tory slurs, not a reasonable statement

I'm failing to see the distinction, myself.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...


Charles: But Andrew, you have to understand. You have admitted that you have a problem where you will enter into settlements where you hand over millions of pounds to people that you have never met before. So it's better for you if I hold onto our money, so you don't just sign it over to people who you did nothing to.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Help! Help! I’m being Cruxified!

https://twitter.com/petronellawyatt/status/1634872130725888001?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008


Presumably that was actually the Queen's decision in her will, though, if it's anything at all like a normal inheritance.

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