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Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Paradoxish posted:

I'm also not entirely convinced that you can stop something like this through censorship without making the problem much, much worse.

that’s a good point.

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Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


throw bart simpson into the slammer for incitement

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

Justin Tyme posted:

throw bart simpson into the slammer for incitement

Bart is a known, malign actor.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Free speech should be unlimited with the exception of child porn and anyone who makes fun of me, personally

Just a Moron
Nov 11, 2021

Paradoxish posted:

I'm also not entirely convinced that you can stop something like this through censorship without making the problem much, much worse.

Mark Kelley is a communist sleeper agent sent to heighten the contradictions

selec
Sep 6, 2003

Bar Ran Dun posted:

I very specifically think we should be able to prevent bank runs from being intentionally created on social media.

incitement is already speech that can be restricted.

what’s the policy to do this look like? intent is impossible to prove, Americans are always freaked out about money

and would this policy cover true but unhappy news that could cause a run?

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

i think we should encourage posts inciting bank runs. now we can compromise

Yeah. would you prefer this happen over the phone instead of via Twitter? What's the difference? The bank run developed bc a small amount of people hold the majority of wealth and have a direct line to legislators to fix all their problems instantly. It has nothing actually to do with retweeting hashtags or whatever.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

spacemang_spliff posted:

I don't have money brains but I don't understand doing inflation but not including rent or food. Most people have to pay rent and everyone has to buy food. Not including it makes it meaningless!

Like if your goal is "how is monetary policy effecting people" then you have to know what people are paying for poo poo they need to live lol loving economists lmao

On their terms: Rent and food fluctuate for reasons not related to money supply. A bad crop caused by flooding doesn't reflect what the money printer is doing.

On regular people terms: They don't want to have to report all the gouging and rent prices going up is entirely the point of bourgeois society.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


If anything Twitter was the reason the unprecedented bailout happened.

Teabag Dome Scandal
Mar 19, 2002


The bank run never would have happened over Teams. Slack needs to be shut down.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


They're bailing this bank out a week after taking food away from the needy. Nice society we've got here

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

SKULL.GIF posted:

If anything Twitter was the reason the unprecedented bailout happened.

The FDIC has ensured all depositors were made 100% whole since 2008. they remained consistent with the precedent. it's mainly noteworthy because of the size of the SVB bailout really caused everyone to realize the 250k limit is only on paper, and they updated their policy on underwater treasuries

dk2m
May 6, 2009

webcams for christ posted:

The FDIC has ensured all depositors were made 100% whole since 2008. they remained consistent with the precedent. it's mainly noteworthy because of the size of the SVB bailout really caused everyone to realize the 250k limit is only on paper, and they updated their policy on underwater treasuries

yeah I mean the point of rate increases is that the fed wants to break the economy and congrats, they broke tech. except the losses were so large because Silicon Valley is so addicted and used to near 0 rates that they didn’t hedge at all.

this, in my view, is still the 2008 recession playing out. rather than trying to address the underlying problem of spiraling debt outstripping real growth, we just threw more debt at the problem via QE until we exhausted it. more things have to break, but the fed is caught between the financial class finally panicking that their free ride might be over and the feds ongoing class war on labor to reduce wages/employment.

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

Vox Nihili posted:

We got a 2015 Prius brand new for ~$20,000 in 2016. Hopefully it'll last until we die.

That era was killer for small cars because they were being phased out for larger more expensive poo poo.

We got a 2017 GTI Sport (the best GTI package in history, imo, with every possible upgrade that mattered but kept the plaid seats) brand new with a DSG auto dual clutch and mechanical diff for $21k. Aint no one ever beating that again, those were incredible times to be buying a smaller car.

Getting a dirt cheap smaller car in the mid 2010s is the milennial generational equivalent to buying a house in 2005 in that nothing like that will ever exist again.

Now it’s all expensive trucks and SUVs which are basically minivans for people too insecure to buy a minivan…

Taima has issued a correction as of 19:32 on Mar 14, 2023

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Taima posted:

That era was killer for small cars because they were being phased out for larger more expensive poo poo.

We got a 2017 GTI Sport (the best GTI package in history, imo, with every possible upgrade that mattered but kept the plaid seats) brand new with a DSG auto dual clutch and mechanical diff for $21k. Aint no one ever beating that again, those were incredible times to be buying a smaller car.

Getting a dirt cheap smaller car in the mid 2010s is the milennial generational equivalent to buying a house in 2005 in that nothing like that will ever exist again.

Now it’s all expensive trucks and SUVs which are basically minivans for people too insecure to buy a minivan…

I wish I had taken care of my Neon, instead of being a broke millennial in my 20's

Lansdowne
Dec 28, 2008

we should outlaw screaming theater in a crowded FIRE sector

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Iron Crowned posted:

I wish I had taken care of my Neon, instead of being a broke millennial in my 20's

I had a cousin with a purple neon and i thought that thing was so sweet.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
still drive a 20 year old kia, it owns

i bought and paid it off entirely in college

Penisaurus Sex
Feb 3, 2009

asdfghjklpoiuyt

Paradoxish posted:

I'm also not entirely convinced that you can stop something like this through censorship without making the problem much, much worse.

Yeah censorship is the wrong tool.

What will be done is the creation of a narrative that's disbursed through the media. The problem with that tool is that the Biden admin/regency seems really bad at it. There's no single unifying narrative even through the normal channels.

Biden, like Obama before him, has it backwards: the papers don't give opinions to the people that are then filtered up to policy, policy determines what needs to be in the papers to backstop decisions already made. Biden refusing (or being unable) to make any decisions is probably throwing everyone a curveball.

Like even that weird guy with the glasses, he's loving fiending for marching orders and will adopt whatever line someone calls him and tells him is the story. That no one is doing it means someone is asleep at the wheel.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

spacemang_spliff posted:

I don't have money brains but I don't understand doing inflation but not including rent or food. Most people have to pay rent and everyone has to buy food. Not including it makes it meaningless!

Like if your goal is "how is monetary policy effecting people" then you have to know what people are paying for poo poo they need to live lol loving economists lmao

because you can't buy more or less food or rent or energy (your requirements are fixed) inflation doesn't impact your decisions so these things can't experience inflation

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
why is bank of hawaii stock down? i have all my many many millions of dollars with them. (this post is proof of how much money i have stored there for when they collapse and i need to get it back)

Euphoriaphone
Aug 10, 2006

Eric Cantonese posted:

Only boomers drink water.

the gently caress? boomers will die if they don't ingest 1 gram of sugar in every ounce of liquid they consume. they keep extra refrigerators in their garages just to keep more cans of soda cold because they can't fit enough in their kitchen fridge for their daily consumption amounts.

one of the best things about the younger generations is they're killing off the soda market (though sadly they soda giants have already diversified into selling water)

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Stereotype posted:

why is bank of hawaii stock down? i have all my many many millions of dollars with them. (this post is proof of how much money i have stored there for when they collapse and i need to get it back)

Me too

Petey
Nov 26, 2005

For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?
hey this is a diversion but what c-spam thread do i go to to panic/fear post about gpt-4, i can't find an obvious one

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


My millions of dollars are on vacation in Hawaii too

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Okay, that's it. Every username that starts with Euph needs to be changed

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Petey posted:

hey this is a diversion but what c-spam thread do i go to to panic/fear post about gpt-4, i can't find an obvious one

Cyberpunk Dystopia, cheers mate

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Frosted Flake posted:

When I was working in safety, they were always developing new metrics so that what would be a Cat A accident or a very serious mishap did not get reported as such. A mortar bomb literally smoking with the primer struck? Not a misfire and UXO because blah blah blah. A soldier was accidentally issued and fired live ammunition instead of blanks? Because the BFA was destroyed in the process it was simply reported as damage to a rifle and not a major incident. Have EOD come blow a dud mortar bomb in place? Nope. Return it to the ammo dump and report it as faulty.

Of course every annual report said “Good news! Safety is great and continues to be great!” because of this reporting, but the fake feel good numbers were more important.

I imagine this is the same but even more abstract.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Petey posted:

hey this is a diversion but what c-spam thread do i go to to panic/fear post about gpt-4, i can't find an obvious one

post it here. whats the deal with gpt4 over gpt3

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Mr. Lobe posted:

My millions of dollars are on vacation in Hawaii too

the FDIC should pay everyone to visit their millions of dollars in hawaii, just to check and make sure they are okay

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



mila kunis posted:

post it here. whats the deal with gpt4 over gpt3

My wife left me for gpt 4

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Euphoriaphone posted:

the gently caress? boomers will die if they don't ingest 1 gram of sugar in every ounce of liquid they consume. they keep extra refrigerators in their garages just to keep more cans of soda cold because they can't fit enough in their kitchen fridge for their daily consumption amounts.

one of the best things about the younger generations is they're killing off the soda market (though sadly they soda giants have already diversified into selling water)

lol, nah

quote:

Among adults, SSB intake is higher among males, young adults, non-Hispanic Black or Mexican American adults, or adults with low incomes.8-10

***

58% of individuals between the ages of 30 and 49 regularly consume soda.
(Statista)

It’s pretty mind-boggling, but recent data show that the older population has more regular soda drinkers than younger people.

People in their 30s and 40s typically drink more regular soda than people in other age groups. Those aged 50 to 64 come second, but they don’t fall far behind, with 57% of the individuals in the age bracket being regular soda drinkers.

Lastly, 49% of adults in the 18–29 age bracket regularly consume soda.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
gpt 4 describes dick sucking with better detail

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



BULBASAUR posted:

gpt 4 describes dick sucking with better detail

Hmmm

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Bar Ran Dun posted:

lovely private company can censor basically anything they want right now. they aren’t government.

I dunno I’m comfortable with starting a back run on Twitter being something government should be allowed to stop.

i dont particularly trust the current government to not do something to make it worse or any government we would most likely have under this lovely system


BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

letting? they already can and do; this would be requiring

fair

tima
Mar 1, 2001

No longer a newbie
Gpt4 will lawyer the gently caress out of your landlords.

coelomate
Oct 21, 2020


a little doomy:

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1635698344843411462

Apple is notable for not having done layoffs like most other big tech

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ
Facebook laying off 11k more is pretty bad too, they mention HR/recruiting but they can’t possibly have that many people.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

hasent facebook already fired like 40k people in the past few months

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Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Glumwheels posted:

Facebook laying off 11k more is pretty bad too, they mention HR/recruiting but they can’t possibly have that many people.

it's more people than is employed in the entire coal mining industry nationwide

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