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Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


happyhippy posted:

Theres a billion or so years of dead things, how come most ghosts are kids and young women from the last 200 years.

Making the mistake of answering this seriously, but…

I’m not sure of the earliest still-active ghost, but there are multiple reports of ghosts from Roman times in the UK- infamously in York where people working in the cellars of the Treasurer’s house had a detachment of Roman soldiers (including a mounted commander) appear through one wall and vanish through the other. There’s many other accounts from throughout the country of Roman or even pre-Roman hauntings.

I don’t know if a serious survey of reported hauntings has ever been conducted (frankly in a world where I didn’t drop out of uni I would have probably made it my life’s work), but there’s a huge variety of different archetypes reported. Now the interesting question to me is what defines the type of haunting an area develops..

(For the record, as I’m sure I’ve stated before, I’m pretty sure ghosts are a natural phenomenon that we just haven’t figured out the mechanism for yet. They’ve been common to every human culture and society across the planet going back to prehistoric times.)

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Darth Walrus posted:

OK, now the board elders need to gift us with context.

quote:

its really amazing how the actions of goons and mods are so freaking far beyond the pale that its actually impossible for a bystander to believe.

proposal: i am going to make an environmentally sustainable yoga retreat in hawaii

reality: a y2k survivalist paid goons a "food stipend" to help me clearcut a rainforest, dig a road by hand, torture and mutilate animals to death on camera, and bathe in/drink from an improperly filtered kiddy pool that wild hogs poo poo and pissed in

proposal: i am going to make a fun zipline for kids at camp

reality: a goon spent tens of thousands of dollars constructing a machine that kills children, entirely by accident

proposal: a fad diet thread in the exercise forum

reality: a mentally ill man resembling a melted candle, the pied piper of ham joints, told people that eating nothing but eggs and bacon and lard in paint buckets (they were literally buying and eating buckets full of lard in the name of good health) would not only make them lose weight, but was so healthy it would cure heart disease and cancer. an enormous fat powerlifter who cant run for 20 seconds probated and banned anyone who challenged this wisdom until it lead to a man barely in his 20s being prescribed statins.

proposal: a thread about animal husbandry in the pet forum

reality: a moderator unrepentantly killed animals with ac/dc hadoukens and probated people who asked questions

proposal: a forum for "responsible drug users" and "harm reduction"

reality: a man falls through the earth and into parisian catacombs. taking a torch from the wall he spies row upon row of skeletons. grasping the nearest by the shoulders, he shakes it madly, yelling "my nigga have u tried lsd

Don't know who the poster was, sadly

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Barry Foster posted:

Don't know who the poster was, sadly

I believe it was forums superstar Triticum Guzzler who has gone by many names.

It's such a great post in its construction, even if you're not familiar with all the ridiculous lore from those wild days of SA

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


The zipline was incredible

Skulker
Jan 27, 2021

Duuuuuude!
Nearby woods are apparently haunted by a ghostly horseman. Some local minor lord who was out riding and fell and broke his neck. On a foggy night you can hear him clip-clopping along etc etc.

Which never fails to annoy me, because why is the ghost of his horse there? It would've died someplace else at a later date, surely?

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005

Skulker posted:

Nearby woods are apparently haunted by a ghostly horseman. Some local minor lord who was out riding and fell and broke his neck. On a foggy night you can hear him clip-clopping along etc etc.

Which never fails to annoy me, because why is the ghost of his horse there? It would've died someplace else at a later date, surely?

Well it was a horse, so it might have died of fright if he turned into a ghost right when he died. Or it might have seen almost anything and also died of fright.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Skulker posted:

Nearby woods are apparently haunted by a ghostly horseman. Some local minor lord who was out riding and fell and broke his neck. On a foggy night you can hear him clip-clopping along etc etc.

Which never fails to annoy me, because why is the ghost of his horse there? It would've died someplace else at a later date, surely?

Google the stone tape theory.

Interestingly the road between my village and market Drayton is haunted by a pair of legs crossing the road. Just a pair of legs.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

The horse would have been shot for failing a member of the aristocracy.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Perhaps the horse man is just doing the clip clop with his mouth.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Camrath posted:

Making the mistake of answering this seriously, but…

I’m not sure of the earliest still-active ghost, but there are multiple reports of ghosts from Roman times in the UK- infamously in York where people working in the cellars of the Treasurer’s house had a detachment of Roman soldiers (including a mounted commander) appear through one wall and vanish through the other. There’s many other accounts from throughout the country of Roman or even pre-Roman hauntings.

I don’t know if a serious survey of reported hauntings has ever been conducted (frankly in a world where I didn’t drop out of uni I would have probably made it my life’s work), but there’s a huge variety of different archetypes reported. Now the interesting question to me is what defines the type of haunting an area develops..

(For the record, as I’m sure I’ve stated before, I’m pretty sure ghosts are a natural phenomenon that we just haven’t figured out the mechanism for yet. They’ve been common to every human culture and society across the planet going back to prehistoric times.)

yeah think i read that in a horrible history type book , and apparently no one believed them but they did excavations and there was an unknown undiscovered roman road along that very path the ghosts walked! spooky!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Perhaps the horse man is just doing the clip clop with his mouth.
"This is bullshit, Plautius gets to keep his loving horse and all his men, and I get a pair of coconuts."

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

Guardian reporting that Hunt will fund 30 hours childcare for 1 and 2 year olds. Hope it’s true and it kicks in soon - will make a massive difference as full time nursery fees are a killer.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Camrath posted:

Making the mistake of answering this seriously, but…

I’m not sure of the earliest still-active ghost, but there are multiple reports of ghosts from Roman times in the UK- infamously in York where people working in the cellars of the Treasurer’s house had a detachment of Roman soldiers (including a mounted commander) appear through one wall and vanish through the other. There’s many other accounts from throughout the country of Roman or even pre-Roman hauntings.

I don’t know if a serious survey of reported hauntings has ever been conducted (frankly in a world where I didn’t drop out of uni I would have probably made it my life’s work), but there’s a huge variety of different archetypes reported. Now the interesting question to me is what defines the type of haunting an area develops..

(For the record, as I’m sure I’ve stated before, I’m pretty sure ghosts are a natural phenomenon that we just haven’t figured out the mechanism for yet. They’ve been common to every human culture and society across the planet going back to prehistoric times.)

So Ectoplasm lasts about 2000 years. :hmmyes:

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Camrath posted:

Google the stone tape theory.

Interestingly the road between my village and market Drayton is haunted by a pair of legs crossing the road. Just a pair of legs.

Ah The Stone Tape. When my siblings and I were very young, we were allowed to stay up all night one night a year - it was probably New Year's Eve and The Stone Tape was on tv.
It was so terrifying to us (I was 12 and I'm the oldest) we all went to bed as soon as it finished and talked about it for years afterwards.

You can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jTLQlb2t4E

I keep meaning to rewatch it see if it is as terrifying 50 years later!

Which has prompted me to send my sister a message asking her if she remembers The Stone Tape.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Brendan Rodgers posted:

So Ectoplasm lasts about 2000 years. :hmmyes:
Maybe the stones only have a couple of tapes and that's why the ghosts are always of culturally significant events that everyone would know and never some random beaker person getting shanked, they're like "oh cool the Romans" or "lmao this dick fell of his horse" and tape over the last thing.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Camrath posted:

(For the record, as I’m sure I’ve stated before, I’m pretty sure ghosts are a natural phenomenon that we just haven’t figured out the mechanism for yet. They’ve been common to every human culture and society across the planet going back to prehistoric times.)

Ghosts aren't real

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Neither are words, but consciousness is weird.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Lady Gaza posted:

Guardian reporting that Hunt will fund 30 hours childcare for 1 and 2 year olds. Hope it’s true and it kicks in soon - will make a massive difference as full time nursery fees are a killer.

i noticed that, 3 days a week have gone up to nearly a grand a month for us so anything would help, but i just don’t trust the guy

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Microplastics posted:

Ghosts aren't real

High magnetic fields can generate spooky sensations in the brain.

But it doesn't explain the Roman soldiers (and various other phenomena which I and members of my family have personally experienced).


I thought 30 hours free childcare was already available? Or was that just Wales?
Not that that will go far!

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

High magnetic fields can generate spooky sensations in the brain.

But it doesn't explain the Roman soldiers (and various other phenomena which I and members of my family have personally experienced).


I thought 30 hours free childcare was already available? Or was that just Wales?
Not that that will go far!

kicks in at 3-4, there is a child tax free childcare account* for nursery but that’s only worth 2 grand over a year, basically a 20% discount so not bad but not exactly a deal breaker on returning to work

*this is so poorly advertised so just mention it to anyone you know with a baby or toddler in nursery

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Lady Gaza posted:

Guardian reporting that Hunt will fund 30 hours childcare for 1 and 2 year olds. Hope it’s true and it kicks in soon - will make a massive difference as full time nursery fees are a killer.

This would only be available to universal credit recipients, no?

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




TACD posted:

i have bad news about the history of life on earth in general


the problem is coffins; put bodies in the ground nude and unboxed and let mother gaia reclaim all the nutrients and microplastics in each delicious corpse

Oh yeah I know we're constantly walking around on like, soil that was made out of dead organisms, and we're eating dead organisms that ate other dead organisms, and we drive vehicles powered by dead organisms while wearing the skins of dead organisms. Every inch of our Earth has had beings die on it.

I guess "burial" is the wrong word, what I mean is the little plots of land reserved for gravestones.

Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Mar 14, 2023

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Oh yeah I know we're constantly walking around on like, soil that was made out of dead organisms, and we're eating dead organisms that ate other dead organisms, and we drive vehicles powered by dead organisms while wearing the skins of dead organisms.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014





This pleases Grandfather Nurgle.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


New language rules have dropped.

https://twitter.com/welshsocialism/status/1634975211090223104

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

Jel Shaker posted:

i noticed that, 3 days a week have gone up to nearly a grand a month for us so anything would help, but i just don’t trust the guy

Full time for my son is £1600, it’s ridiculous. I am also skeptical - can always trust a Tory to gently caress up a potentially good idea.

Microplastics posted:

This would only be available to universal credit recipients, no?

I can’t see anything in the reporting on this. I get 30 hours free for my daughter as she’s 3, and I earn under £100k. I am hoping they’ll give the same to 1 and 2 year olds. There is funding for 2 year olds for those on UC already.

Guess we’ll find out tomorrow!

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003


Never realised I needed the word ‘yanksplaining’ until I read it in the replies

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
There's a use that apparently dates to descendents of emigrants who returned from Patagonia or the Eastern United States in the late 19th century, so actually that's now a Welsh-American word that nobody else is allowed to use.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I feel as if there's a difference between me spraying "Cofiwch Dryweryn" on the wall where they replace an independent coffee shop with a Starbucks and me using a word from another language because I think it sounds nicer than the one in my own.
I just can't quite work out what that is.

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Camrath posted:

(For the record, as I’m sure I’ve stated before, I’m pretty sure ghosts are a natural phenomenon that we just haven’t figured out the mechanism for yet. They’ve been common to every human culture and society across the planet going back to prehistoric times.)

the mechanism is human brains op

the way they work, they make humans imagine ghosts

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Guavanaut posted:

Maybe the stones only have a couple of tapes and that's why the ghosts are always of culturally significant events that everyone would know and never some random beaker person getting shanked, they're like "oh cool the Romans" or "lmao this dick fell of his horse" and tape over the last thing.

If ghosts were real not only would we be constantly tripping over them, but we could interview them for archaeology.

Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Mar 14, 2023

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

jaete posted:

the mechanism is human brains op

the way they work, they make humans imagine ghosts

Machinery running at low frequency in the sub 20Hz range (infrasound - you feel it more than you hear anything) is known to cause feelings of unease and fear in humans. There's been plenty of debunked ghost stories which cropped up because people got spooked due to low frequency nearby equipment.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
All the ghost stones are of 18th century tiktokers telling us we're not allowed to say 'lobcock' because that's chrono-imperialism, so we turned them off.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




kecske posted:

Machinery running at low frequency in the sub 20Hz range (infrasound - you feel it more than you hear anything) is known to cause feelings of unease and fear in humans. There's been plenty of debunked ghost stories which cropped up because people got spooked due to low frequency nearby equipment.

What if someone were to buy a mansion and fill it with this low frequency equipment and then rent it out as a haunted house experience? Maybe an old manor house with a suitable back story. Goon project? I'll make the discord channel.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'll buy the rotary subwoofer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe57fIgJgNI

No, wait, they're ridiculous prices. I'll buy the mansion once the market collapses.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Actually it's because frequencies that low are very attractive to ghosts so they surround anything outputting it

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1635763661728825347

A tiny glimpse into some of the client journalism

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

Brendan Rodgers posted:

What if someone were to buy a mansion and fill it with this low frequency equipment and then rent it out as a haunted house experience? Maybe an old manor house with a suitable back story. Goon project? I'll make the discord channel.

Barry Foster posted:

quote:

proposal: i am going to make a fun zipline for kids at camp haunted house experience

reality: a goon spent tens of thousands of dollars constructing a machine an audio torture device that kills children, entirely by accident

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Bobby Deluxe posted:

The thing that would get me about those 'turn ashes into a gem' things is what if your nan got stolen in a mugging?

So years ago, I had a client who was charged with a number of theft and robbery charges. It was the normal story, he had a drug addiction was stealing stuff to feed the habit. Had racked up a number of charges, and now wanted to plead guilty to all of them, get them all sorted and try and get into treatment while in custody.
And the MO was mostly the same, grabbing people's handbags from cafes or in the street and selling the goods.

So this guy has like 8 or 10 charge sheets (each sheet is an individual charge.) And the way the charge sheet works is it has a bunch of procedural information, the law that is allegedly broken and a rough description of what is involved in the charge. IE On XX Day of YY, Person Z did commit and an offence contrary to Section 4 of the Theft and Fraud Offences Act 2001. Namely that you, Person Z, did steal property belonging to another, namely the iPhone of Victim Y valued at €1,200."


So this is all standard stuff, it's what I'm used to.
So I'm looking through all these charge sheets and it's the same stuff. Handbags, laptops, Mobile Phones. And sometimes you have a bit of a poke about the valuation on the mobile phone, since the Guards always used the theoretical price of buying the phone for new, when often people buy phones on contracts.

Anyway, I'm looking through the charge sheets and I get to one which said
"Contained a locket, the value of which is Priceless."

And I've never seen this before. So I go and have a word with the guard to find out, what made this locket so valuable.
And I am told that the amulet that was in this persons handbag when it was stolen (and never found) contained the cremated ashes of her mother. Because she always wanted her mum near her.

Suffice to say, when something like that came up, you just play the mercy card ("Your honour, when my client was informed what he had taken he took the guards back to where he had disposed of the bag but sadly it couldn't be found.") and do you best, but in the end that client got like 8 months on that charge alone.

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Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


jaete posted:

the mechanism is human brains op

the way they work, they make humans imagine ghosts

The exact same thing, multiple times, by multiple witnesses, in the same place over the course of many years?

Sorry, but while a lot of occurrences can indeed be debunked as down to infrasound, tricks of light etc there’s also more than enough which /can’t/ be, and to refuse to recognise that is just as dogmatic as a religious belief.

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