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Also, where do you get the new Sukhoi?
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Mar 14, 2023 20:54
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Deki posted:I take it's in full liquid form and not like, fuel canisters that could realistically be recovered? I'm 99% sure it's just straight liquid. The tanks can be jettisoned as well depending on the platform were talking about but I've never heard anything about retrieval operations during my time in the Navy. They just dump it and keep it moving. I think the time and resources spent on retrieval would far outweigh the cost of just replacing the canisters, it would also put the strike group at a tactical disadvantage. also this: tiaz posted:The additional fuel tanks don't have any kind of recovery system. If they get jettisoned they impact the ocean (or the ground) at high speed and are destroyed.
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Mar 14, 2023 20:55
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This reckless Putin guy is gonna get someone killed
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Mar 14, 2023 20:55
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Nessus posted:Also, where do you get the new Sukhoi? not much what's Sukhoi with you?
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Mar 14, 2023 20:56
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Deptfordx posted:Those things are packed with extremely expensive electronics. No way you're getting one for less than an old Sukhoi. Maybe one of the newer ER versions, but the standard Reaper design is over a dozen years old, and the US military is already trying to develop a replacement (General Atomics Mojave, I think). While that's very new technology by Russian standards, by US military standards these are getting a bit outdated.
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Mar 14, 2023 20:56
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LaserPrinter69 posted:I'm lolling at the mental image of an F35 jettisoning its fuel tank into the ocean, and the pilot just looking down going "shitttt.... why is there even a button for that" One time playing this old flight sim called Fighter Pilot my friend sneakily rebound my Missile Arming hotkey to Eject when i went to go to the bathroom, I came back and triumphantly yelled MISSILE AWAY, FOX 2 (like bill pullman in independence day) and promptly flew out of the top of my f-16 and parachuted gently to the ground
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Mar 14, 2023 20:56
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Maybe we should send a carrier group into the black Sea to ensure safety precautions are taken in the area
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Mar 14, 2023 20:57
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HonorableTB posted:One time playing this old flight sim called Fighter Pilot my friend sneakily rebound my Missile Arming hotkey to Eject when i went to go to the bathroom, I came back and triumphantly yelled MISSILE AWAY, FOX 2 (like bill pullman in independence day) and promptly flew out of the top of my f-16 and parachuted gently to the ground LMAO
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Mar 14, 2023 20:59
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HonorableTB posted:One time playing this old flight sim called Fighter Pilot my friend sneakily rebound my Missile Arming hotkey to Eject when i went to go to the bathroom, I came back and triumphantly yelled MISSILE AWAY, FOX 2 (like bill pullman in independence day) and promptly flew out of the top of my f-16 and parachuted gently to the ground Our strat for that was to unpause, press j to start jettisoning the unwitting friend's fuel, then pause again
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Mar 14, 2023 21:11
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HonorableTB posted:One time playing this old flight sim called Fighter Pilot my friend sneakily rebound my Missile Arming hotkey to Eject when i went to go to the bathroom, I came back and triumphantly yelled MISSILE AWAY, FOX 2 (like bill pullman in independence day) and promptly flew out of the top of my f-16 and parachuted gently to the ground 
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Mar 14, 2023 21:28
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LaserPrinter69 posted:I'm lolling at the mental image of an F35 jettisoning its fuel tank into the ocean, and the pilot just looking down going "shitttt.... why is there even a button for that" Old jets used to drop their fuel tanks when about to start dog fighting. During this engagement an Israeli accidently dropped all his missiles at the same time lol
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Mar 14, 2023 21:33
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Maybe we should send a carrier group into the black Sea to ensure safety precautions are taken in the area Genuine question: If the US were to show up at the Bosporus with a Carrier group would Turkey have to let them through because NATO or some other treaty or could Turkey just laugh and tell them to get the gently caress out of there?
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Mar 14, 2023 21:36
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The treaties are older than NATO and say that unless Turkey itself is at war, it can't let any warships over 10k tons through, unless they are formally based in the Black Sea by one of of the local powers. Countries at war can't move ships through the straits unless they are returning to their prewar naval base. If Turkey is at war, it can disregard any limits.
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Mar 14, 2023 21:40
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steinrokkan posted:The treaties are older than NATO and say that unless Turkey itself is at war, it can't let any warships over 10k tons through, unless they are formally based in the Black Sea by one of of the local powers.  also, even if it weren't legally dicey, I assume any carrier group would be reticent to transit such a strait. carriers prefer to be far from land (and land-based systems) and free to maneuver.
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Mar 14, 2023 21:48
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Nessus posted:Also, where do you get the new Sukhoi? How soon we forget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gne7beWy8fU
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Mar 14, 2023 21:51
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https://i.imgur.com/Nj9ImVa.mp4
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Mar 14, 2023 21:54
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I wonder if that was that forte10 drone that kept showing up since the beginning of the war. It disappeared for a few months then showed up again a few days ago.
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Mar 14, 2023 21:55
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glynnenstein posted:Everybody should check out the most recent War on the Rocks episode. Kofman just got back from another trip to Ukraine and has a pretty fresh update on the situation on the ground, prospects for a good guy spring offensive, insights about Russian tactics and where Wagner fits in, and a frankly depressing reality check about Ukrainian forces and the attrition they've faced.
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Mar 14, 2023 21:55
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I think it's a very particular point of Turkish sovereignty and international treaty that they're allowed to close the Bosporus to any military shipping they see fit if they're at war or 'feel threatened'. So basically anyone on either side trying to come swinging into the Black Sea is loving around and at risk of finding out
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Mar 14, 2023 22:07
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Gros Tarla posted:I wonder if that was that forte10 drone that kept showing up since the beginning of the war. It disappeared for a few months then showed up again a few days ago. The forte flights are the much more capable and expensive jet-powered rq-4s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_RQ-4_Global_Hawk
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Mar 14, 2023 22:15
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Gros Tarla posted:I wonder if that was that forte10 drone that kept showing up since the beginning of the war. It disappeared for a few months then showed up again a few days ago. Forte 10 is a Global Hawk, and that thing is massive, wingspan of a Boeing 737  e: beaten, but I have a picture!
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Mar 14, 2023 22:18
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Gervasius posted:Forte 10 is a Global Hawk, and that thing is massive, wingspan of a Boeing 737 Cute beluga drone aww
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Mar 14, 2023 22:22
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Gervasius posted:Forte 10 is a Global Hawk, and that thing is massive, wingspan of a Boeing 737
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Mar 14, 2023 22:29
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https://i.imgur.com/zkCY7o7.mp4 Strategic Tea posted:I think it's a very particular point of Turkish sovereignty and international treaty that they're allowed to close the Bosporus to any military shipping they see fit if they're at war or 'feel threatened'. Anyway it's not a carrier but a cruiser, and it was always Ukrainian and based in Odessa
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Mar 14, 2023 22:30
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poo poo they can have Steven Segal, load him up on a giant slingshot and that takes care of that
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Mar 14, 2023 22:31
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StrangersInTheNight posted:poo poo they can wheel Steven Segal in an office chair, load him up on a giant slingshot and that takes care of that
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Mar 14, 2023 22:32
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Oh for sure they could allow a NATO fleet through. Just that trying to sail through without everyone in complete agreement would be the most furious middle finger an ally could possibly commit.
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Mar 14, 2023 22:36
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Gervasius posted:Forte 10 is a Global Hawk, and that thing is massive, wingspan of a Boeing 737 Pekinduck posted:The forte flights are the much more capable and expensive jet-powered rq-4s Thanks 
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Mar 14, 2023 22:42
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Sashimi posted:I wonder what would happen if some dumbass in a MiG flew into one of these super expensive drones? They would both explode and not much else. Iran shot one down and the US just wagged a finger.
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Mar 14, 2023 23:03
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DiomedesGodshill posted:They would both explode and not much else. Iran shot one down and the US just wagged a finger. Russia losing a fighter to go kamikaze on a Reaper drone is like a poor person crashing their hooptie into some rich person's Mercedes for spite: after the initial 'gotcha!' wears off, the rich person gets another car in a day or two with no real hassle, while the poor guy doesn't have the resources to easily replace what was lost.
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Mar 14, 2023 23:10
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Strategic Tea posted:I think it's a very particular point of Turkish sovereignty and international treaty that they're allowed to close the Bosporus to any military shipping they see fit if they're at war or 'feel threatened'. IIRC Turkey has already invoked that treaty and cut the Black Sea Fleet off from any reinforcements lol https://twitter.com/Mr_Anderton_/status/1635731178836688897?s=20 lmao can't wait to see that HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Mar 14, 2023 23:11
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ishikabibble posted:Military jet fuel AKA JP-8 is kerosene with some additives. What do you think happens to the fuel once it evaporates? Evaporates doesn't mean "ceases to exist". It will likely be broken down eventually by UV light, resulting in the same amount of CO2 as burning it.
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Mar 14, 2023 23:19
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Steven Seagal, clad in traditional Russian garb,
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Mar 14, 2023 23:22
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I agree, he is Russian.
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Mar 14, 2023 23:25
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HonorableTB posted:IIRC Turkey has already invoked that treaty and cut the Black Sea Fleet off from any reinforcements lol I was just reading a bunch more details here, they also mentioned possibly declassifying footage: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russian-su-27-collided-with-u-s-mq-9-over-black-sea Which would be great because the russians of course announced they didn't touch anything and it just magically crashed by itself
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Mar 14, 2023 23:30
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Sashimi posted:I wonder what would happen if some dumbass in a MiG flew into one of these super expensive drones? No propeller to hit, to do the trick you'd probably need a way riskier bonk.
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Mar 14, 2023 23:34
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zone posted:just Ukraine alone with whatever help they got and their own trained armies. He ends on an extremely bitter note that this was all supposedly set up and planned by America to destroy Russia as a geopolitical threat. My dear traitor, this would never have happened if you and the others hadn't provoked it to start with. Its nice to see that conspiracy poo poo is universal. Putin wanted to do a regime change, with a special military operation. kiev was to fall in a week, the us state department offered to get zelinksy out, zelinisky chose to stay the UA chose to fight. The utter failure of the russia army on all levels shatter the near peer world view, if anything the russian military should ve had its house in order and most clearly should have just not bothered with its special operation. There is a russian woman who works at my office, i ve avoided talking about the war with her. But I didnt mention all the nerd tank chat that goes on, and she basically expressed a view that russia has no new tanks and think we see was just dug up out of Chechenia
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Mar 14, 2023 23:42
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Mar 15, 2023 00:27
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Ups_rail posted:
Been to the office a handful of times since this started and don't mention it when I'm in the Russian district, still wonder what their thoughts are on it though.
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Mar 15, 2023 00:30
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Russian guys in my office love clowning on russia and putin. They think the war is loving stupid. One of them hangs out with the russian society which also has a bunch of ukrainian members. Lots of russians that get out got out for a reason. They think russia sucks.
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