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Me watching the collapse of civilization
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 08:00 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 09:48 |
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Say what you want about the 2008 financial crisis but I think we can all agree that it prompted a lot of necessary introspection about what really threatens the Motherfucking Nazis AHHHHHH THEY BACK!!!!! PANZERS ON MAIN SWEATER GOD!!!!
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 08:24 |
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err posted:Explaining the bailouts to normal people was a truly revolutionary moment for a lot of people during Occupy. Following shortly by them forgetting everything the moment someone jangled their car keys in front of their faces.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 08:27 |
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Victor Vermis posted:Jordan Peterson wrote Ladder Theory MTG is Kyoon
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 08:27 |
euphronius posted:I’m pretty sure the current SC would say death camps are ok if a president said it was for national security I’ve accepted that I’m going to be sent to an internment camp when the US goes to war with China. I’m not even Chinese, but whitey’s not going to look past the last name
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 08:31 |
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sleep with the vicious posted:Lol at we are going to give you 54b in emergency loans to prevent the bank from collapsing, and also no you don't have to change anything about the way you run your business that got you in your mess, and also no we won't change anything about the way we structure our business environment that got you in this mess, and also we are going to raise rates again, and so forth the way to understand what’s happening right now is not at all what orthodox economics wants to tell you. this is sort of an effort post. I’m completely simple terms - this is the consequence of Obama and Geithners policy in 2008. when the banks blew up back then, we had a choice - do we as a society protect the creditor or protect the debtor? the answer came clearly down to protecting the creditor - the banks. the main reason for that is that is because we were in the midst of a revolution - the free trade agreements and de-industrialization policies of Clinton staring with NAFTA and the admittance of China to the WTO in 2001 were turbocharging the equity and bond market. with labor being squeezed and eventually collapsing by moving overseas, the main enemy of neoliberalism was conquered. unions fell apart and factories shut down, but because of the rise in technology coinciding with dirt cheap foreign labor costs, productivity went through the roof. around the same time, business schools were churning out MBAs that based their framework around finance instead of industrial engineering - older schools like GMI in Flint (now Kettering University) which trained executives to think in terms of industry were giving way to Stanford and Harvard MBAs who prioritized the CFO led model of prioritizing the stockholder. these coinciding factors led to executives gutting their companies to shutter factories, move them overseas, and largely focus on financial engineering to boost their share price. a characteristic of finance that separates it from a real economy is that financial returns compound while a real economy looks like an S curve - a financial economy simply grows unbounded. that’s because finance is debt based. banks create debt and make claims on assets. their source comes from thin air - when you apply for a mortgage, they simply push a button and come up with a the money. in theory, they are required to keep a reserve to cover deposits - with deregulation, it has given them less and less to cover on hand, to now virtually guaranteed risk-free government backed bailouts. i also think it’s important to understand what exactly a bank does. let’s say you deposit some money into one. from a banks balance sheet perspective, your deposit is a liability in an accounting sense. this means that they package the liability, your deposit, into an asset via an exchange on the market. because a banks primary product is making claims on real assets, they naturally are rent seeking institutions. in order for them to grow and make money, they need 2 things - an ever larger pool of assets to lay claims on and a source of easy credit to lever their claims on to increase their rate of return. the first part is done via privatization - by moving assets from the public domain, such as land or healthcare or education, to the private one, they force the entire population to take on loans, which gives the banks their pool of assets to lay claims on. the second piece comes from the availability of a Bank themselves to get short term loans. a bank is a special institution under financial capitalism that can enter a repo market with its central bank, the fed. they can collateralize and obtain credit from the central bank and can use that same credit to cover their liabilities (aka deposits) or go into the financial markets and buy stocks, bonds and products. banks pre 2008 were making extremely risky bets by tapping into the largest debt pool of all - mortgages. because everyone has a mortgage, which pays interest, investment banks began committing outright fraud by packaging garbage loans and making it appear golden and the commercial banks lended loans to anyone with a pulse. this skyrocketed returns across the board as the combination of derivatives and interest bearing loans compounded and grew far beyond the growth of the real economy. in 2008 when it finally collapsed, Obama decided that he would protect the creditors and the only way to do this was to re-inflate the prices of both real estate and the stock market. this is where the regime of 0 interest rate credit came into play. as money became basically free, banks gave the government all of their toxic bonds and derivatives and in return got free money from the federal reserve to chase returns again. stock buybacks, VC money, institutional housing buybacks, healthcare, insurance, and arbitraging were all turbocharged with QE. this led to an equity and bond market boom as the federal reserve gave the banks enough loans to spread throughout the system to make sure all the distressed houses they had on the balance sheet were not only propped up again, but would eventually far outpace the book value of the homes itself. as the rally grew, and the economy became more polarized, the creditors and financial class inflated the stock market to obscene levels, but needed more and more assets to lay their credit claims on. this only further impoverished the rest of us, as housing, education and healthcare costs spiraled out of control. rather than see these as the driving costs for what we now call “inflation”, the fed simply doubled down on this regime and left it at near 0 well after the initial recession ended. the small financial class enjoyed unparalleled wealth that had never really been seen before in american history. what eventually burst this bubble was covid. since we deinsturalized, we faced sudden shortages that caused massive supply/demand imbalances. these causes prices for some goods to spiral, cars for example. in response, the fed dropped another 9 trillion QE regime in which the main intent was to inflate the stock and bond market. this led to the absolutely asinine situation of a soaring stock market amidst collapsing employment. as covid ended and labor had new gained power to negotiate wages in 2022, the idea of inflation started to really become a mainstream topic in financial news. inflation is really a euphemism for rising wages and employment, but an overall increase of wages would sharply threaten financial returns for all the now CFO led companies and startups. to curb this, the fed decided to raise interest rates. the problem is that they have flooded the market, since 2008, with low interest rate credit. as companies became flush with cash, especially the tech sector, they parked their money into treasury bonds. most banks barely pay any interest on savings or CDs, something like less than .05%, so wealth individuals and cash plush companies would rather invest in long term t-bonds which were only interrupted after labor suddenly had some negotiation power due to covid. this whole situation is a consequence of gutting the country of industry and focusing on finance as the primary growth driver. the problem is that now, we have so much credit that has been used to indebt the rest of us, and nearly every bank has underwater bonds as they invested in “safe” treasury bonds, that the system has nowhere to go. the individual actions of banks, such as bailouts, are less of a moral hazard than the overall structure of the economy basically resembling the Soviet Union, but financially rather than via fake production quotas. as the Soviet Union was obsessed with production to to point of it becoming farcical, so we are with finance to the point of it now it being largely fiction as we cannot QE as that would counter act the rate hikes, and we cannot continue the rate hikes as that would collapse more banks. we have to come to the conclusion that banks and creditors ARE the problem, and let them collapse and bring back a goods and consumer spending based economy rather than a fictitious debt based one.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 08:38 |
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ty for the excellent post exciting times indeed blood
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 09:00 |
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great analysis
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 09:01 |
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lol the Saudi National Bank's comment was the last straw that broke Credit Suisse's back. now they're trying to walk back the comment https://twitter.com/business/status/1636236854646407169 e: shoulda bought the dip https://twitter.com/firstsquawk/status/1636278078308511746 webcams for christ has issued a correction as of 09:10 on Mar 16, 2023 |
# ? Mar 16, 2023 09:03 |
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dk2m posted:the way to understand what’s happening right now is not at all what orthodox economics wants to tell you. this is sort of an effort post. This is a good post.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 09:07 |
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*Swiss National Bank offers CHF 50 Billion liquidity to Credit Suisse* USA: Hold my beer https://twitter.com/firstsquawk/status/1636248030503477249
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 09:14 |
webcams for christ posted:*Swiss National Bank offers CHF 50 Billion liquidity to Credit Suisse* kinda firesale bullshit is this?
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 09:25 |
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Haha awesome the hose is back baby!
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 09:30 |
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lmao literal trillions for the wealthy this is why americas #1
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 09:41 |
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Aw the bloodletting is over? Also dk2m when are you releasing volume 1?
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:11 |
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:lmao literal trillions for the wealthy this is why americas #1
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:11 |
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webcams for christ posted:*Swiss National Bank offers CHF 50 Billion liquidity to Credit Suisse* tether ftw
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:14 |
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Lmao how much did the extra snap cost?
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:17 |
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this would jokerfy so many people lol https://twitter.com/0ddette/status/1636295964691427328
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:20 |
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JPMorgan sneering at the 50 Billion Francs on the table https://twitter.com/financialjuice/status/1636296048707620866 e: TRANSITORY Recession https://twitter.com/financialjuice/status/1636294240148783104
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:23 |
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webcams for christ posted:*Swiss National Bank offers CHF 50 Billion liquidity to Credit Suisse* thank god the coin has been minted
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:25 |
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Limited and transitory, where have I heard that before?
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:26 |
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I will lol forever if the coin gets minted for banks but nothing else
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:26 |
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:9% on a 30 year fixed can i just say how wild and crazy it sounds to me that anyone would ever take out a 30-year fixed CD? even at 35 now, i'll probably be dead or need the money well before then
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:29 |
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Crazypoops posted:Limited and transitory, where have I heard that before? It applies to all things. Except the supply of money to banks.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:45 |
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30 year fixed CD is quite the long time period
palindrome has issued a correction as of 15:49 on Mar 16, 2023 |
# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:49 |
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hm i think the system might be fake and rigged
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 10:52 |
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webcams for christ posted:JPMorgan sneering at the 50 Billion Francs on the table Transitory Great Depression
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 11:03 |
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dk2m posted:the way to understand what’s happening right now is not at all what orthodox economics wants to tell you. this is sort of an effort post. A brilliant summary. Thank you.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 11:05 |
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Frosted Flake posted:It drives me absolutely apoplectic when I ask for it to depict any historical period I know a good deal about because so much is wrong in very simple ways that you could tell an artist about, or provide reference material to. It does give me a deeper appreciation for history illustrators like Angus McBride though.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 11:06 |
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Crazypoops posted:I will lol forever if the coin gets minted for banks but nothing else A couple years of transitory inflation later: Good morning sir, your latte and the rasberry muffin come to 3 trillion and 500 million dollars.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 11:07 |
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dk2m posted:Big good post Now let's see which option the Fed goes with. They turned on the money printer? Shock!
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 11:09 |
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 11:23 |
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free money again!!!
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 11:36 |
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The grand sum total of the past 20 years of human progress. Our civilisation shall never again reach such lofty heights.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 11:36 |
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webcams for christ posted:this would jokerfy so many people lol Lol not a bailout! This is why I think the pause predictions are wrong. Banks are fixed now. No need to pause rate hikes when only the lessers get hurt by them Mr Hootington has issued a correction as of 12:06 on Mar 16, 2023 |
# ? Mar 16, 2023 12:02 |
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Animal-Mother posted:IT'S NOT A BAILOUT!!!
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 12:02 |
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Better spend every penny you own before hyperinflation kicks in.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 12:02 |
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it's not your money, you're just renting it
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 12:04 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 09:48 |
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Nah easy fix. You just do the following: Give banks their 2-200 trillion dollars. Give the peasants a coupon for one (1) box of a dozen chicken nuggets from McDonalds with their choice of a single sauce packet. super sweet best pal posted:Better spend every penny you own before hyperinflation kicks in. Keep enough for day to day but any old shoeboxes full of cash buried in the backyard may be worth less than the shoeboxes themselves in a couple years.
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# ? Mar 16, 2023 12:06 |