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FilthyImp posted:How's the Bolt 2020 edition? Not going to rip your arm off via bad seat belt/ burn a hole in your driveway? I've had a 2020 Bolt since pre-pandemic and despite two unresolved recalls, it's been a trouble-free car. Biggest annoyance is the nail that went into my sidewall and I had to pay for a new tire. If you're buying from a dealer, doing the pretensioner recall is a no-brainer. I'm not sure of their current stance of being able to sell one without battery replacement. If you're buying private party, pop the VIN into the online tool to see the current recall status. https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-recall Personally, I'm content to be near the back of the line. Seems 2020s are low priority/risk and every mile I drive pre-replacement is less wear on the second battery.
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Peanut3141 posted:Personally, I'm content to be near the back of the line. Seems 2020s are low priority/risk and every mile I drive pre-replacement is less wear on the second battery.  I have a 2019 and it was near the front of the line. Bought it for a song because everybody was freaking out about Bolts exploding or whatever. Even with the software hack limiting how high you could charge, it was still a longer-range car than the LEAF. Then one day it was time for the recall, and now I have a brand new battery with an 8-year warranty. The thread has said this before but a used Bolt with a pre-recall battery is a hell of a good bargain. Or at least it used to be. I have no idea what the market is like now.
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ROFLBOT posted:If you have PIN to drive enabled it wouldnt matter, no one is driving off with your car even if they by some random chance were able to get in it Is this seriously a thing? Seems way less convenient than a normal proximity key.
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dissss posted:Is this seriously a thing? Seems way less convenient than a normal proximity key. Yeah it's a thing. People are doing relay attacks to steal these cars (supposedly that's been fixed, but I don't trust Elon  ) here, so I enabled it a while ago, also turning off passive entry etc.
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Wibla posted:Yeah it's a thing. People are doing relay attacks to steal these cars (supposedly that's been fixed, but I don't trust Elon I also have it turned on for the same reason. You know how we had that stupid derail a few pages back about whether there should be a power button to start the car? You can pretend it's a power button if you like  e: I should mention that while I also don't trust Elon, he's not actually doing any of the engineering at Tesla, and I have mad respect for their security team. I didn't realize they claimed to have fixed it. Maybe I'll turn it back off.
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priznat posted:I like the GV60 face scanning idea even if it is a bit of a scary dystopian thing somehow 
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OctaMurk posted:Please come to america You'd think people would see how the Bolt is selling and want in on that. e. Americans buy Golfs, right? Why not ID.2s? e2. Call it a crossover. Call it an SUV if you have to. Normal Barbarian fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Mar 16, 2023 |
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Normal Barbarian posted:You'd think people would see how the Bolt is selling and want in on that. This would be about 8" shorter than a Golf. Its even shorter than a Polo which we also don't get because its too small. The Bolt EUV would be 10" longer. The ID.2 is going to be tiny
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cruft posted:
My '21 bolt went in for the recalls early this morning. Judging from the state of charge in the app, they've accomplished absolutely nothing today. Thanks crappy-local-dealer! They also don't answer calls. I'm jealous of your new-battery bliss.
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kill me now posted:This would be about 8" shorter than a Golf. Its even shorter than a Polo which we also don't get because its too small. The Bolt EUV would be 10" longer. The current Polo punches well above its weight as far as packaging goes so hopefully this will too.
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Ugh... Had a check engine light that came and went twice this past week. I've received the codes any 2nd Gen Volt owner dreads to see.. especially if it's after the 100k warranty has expired!  The infamous BECM failure. Thankfully the months long wait to get that part finally seems to have cleared up in just the past month. And I am still within the 100k warranty.
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The most elaborate car thief ring ever
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stevewm posted:Ugh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHo43B6nu60
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priznat posted:The most elaborate car thief ring ever idk face swapping technology is pretty old at this point, that documentary was made 25 years ago Face Off is old enough to rent a car lmao
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stevewm posted:Ugh... Well that’s upsetting. How much does one of these repairs cost? I guess I need to start squirreling away some money.
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stevewm posted:Ugh... Cars: still a pain in the rear end, even when we figured out a better propulsion technology.
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Youtube channel JerryRigEverything takes an early look at the Aptera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-pboYgSF2Q
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Stultus Maximus posted:Well that’s upsetting. How much does one of these repairs cost? I guess I need to start squirreling away some money. The repair is covered under the Voltec warranty, which is 8 years or 100k miles. (10 years/150k miles if the car was originally sold in a state following CA emissions laws) Out of warranty it is around $1400 if I remember correctly. The part is around $350, the rest is labor. Getting to the module requires the main battery coolant to be drained, battery dropped, and the cover removed. When putting it back together they have to do a smoke test to ensure the battery cover is sealed properly and then re-fill the coolant. Some more enterprising people have just removed the rear seat and cut through the floor and the top of the battery cover to get at the module. This failure usually has the following symptoms: Check engine light with U26xx codes. Full battery but showing 0 EV range. Switching to gas with battery left. Heater and/or AC not working randomly. Won't charge. And sometimes the car just won't move. Someone on Facebook verified it is due to cracked solder joints on ADC chips in the module used to read the cell group voltages, that same person was able to repair a BECM by just reflowing the solder joints. An easy DiY repair, if the module wasn't so hard to get to! The Bolt EV shares this same part with the 2nd gen Volt. And there have been some failures reported with the Bolt as well. But not nearly as many as the Volt. It is mostly 2017 Volts that seem to have this issue, but the TSB from GM says 2016 to 2019 Volts could be affected. Reports of 2018-2019 Volts having the issue are few online. stevewm fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Mar 17, 2023 |
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borkencode posted:Youtube channel JerryRigEverything takes an early look at the Aptera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-pboYgSF2Q Not going to watch the whole thing but 1. he's literally shilling for it and taking referral fees and 2. lmao at the constant loud rattling
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borkencode posted:Youtube channel JerryRigEverything takes an early look at the Aptera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-pboYgSF2Q I love the idea of these and desperately hope they're not just scamming investors. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if it ever actually makes it to market.
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Deteriorata posted:I love the idea of these and desperately hope they're not just scamming investors. 
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Deteriorata posted:I love the idea of these and desperately hope they're not just scamming investors. Yeah I mean they look not only like a perfect city vehicle, but like they would be really fun to drive as well.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Yeah I mean they look not only like a perfect city vehicle, but like they would be really fun to drive as well. It gets posted here from time to time and it's still hard to say if it's a scam or they'll actually deliver something. I don't really see any progress since the last update the did a few months ago. I do hope they can actually produce a truly efficient and innovative EV that isn't just a skateboard under an ICE shell.
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borkencode posted:Youtube channel JerryRigEverything takes an early look at the Aptera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-pboYgSF2Q Magic Underwear posted:Not going to watch the whole thing but 1. he's literally shilling for it and taking referral fees and 2. lmao at the constant loud rattling Christ almighty it makes more noise than a citroën ami van(and it seems as comfortable to ride in).
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SlowBloke posted:Christ almighty it makes more noise than a citroën ami van(and it seems as comfortable to ride in). Regarding the rattling, it's an old prototype.. which makes it more suspicious that they're not showing off something newer that isn't a piece of poo poo
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Loucks posted:I test drove a 2000 Toyota Echo in the early aughts and remember being surprised by how roomy it was. I remember hating the center-mounted instrument cluster. A coworker of mine used to have an Echo sedan. He's 6' 6" and about 275 pounds. He got into the car at the dealer as a joke while his dad's vehicle was being serviced, thinking "big guy in a little car", but was so chuffed he fit, he eventually bought one, and drove the wheels off of it. We'd pile 4 of us in the thing to go to lunch, and it was NOT happy about that. Turning the AC off made a noticeable difference in acceleration! bird with big dick posted:It sounds like some of it kind of is like the car getting bricked but seems the whole thing could have been prevented if this dildo had a $12 shovel. Or maybe had not gotten out of the vehicle with it in reverse while being towed? Like, why would you get out? Kia Soul Enthusias posted:https://twitter.com/electrifyingcom/status/1636064884071735300 Holy poo poo, the can listen! This is like Apple going back to the old keyboard, ditching the stupid touchstrip, and putting the HDMI back on the computer.
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Darchangel posted:
Counterpoint, the VW hatch looks bad,always has, and “19 year old pizza delivery guy” is not the demo they should be targeting. Edit: Actually, at the price and specs if they can pull it off, maybe it is the right demo. Would be really impressive at that price. Still ugly though. Doom Rooster fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 17, 2023 |
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Darchangel posted:A coworker of mine used to have an Echo sedan. He's 6' 6" and about 275 pounds. He got into the car at the dealer as a joke while his dad's vehicle was being serviced, thinking "big guy in a little car", but was so chuffed he fit, he eventually bought one, and drove the wheels off of it. We'd pile 4 of us in the thing to go to lunch, and it was NOT happy about that. Turning the AC off made a noticeable difference in acceleration! Are they listening or are they reacting to being absolutely crushed by the EVs coming out of China and Korea? Seems like a play for the Chinese market as well where sub 200krmb(29k usd) are becoming the standard for even fairly high spec’s sedans.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Are they listening or are they reacting to being absolutely crushed by the EVs coming out of China and Korea? Seems like a play for the Chinese market as well where sub 200krmb(29k usd) are becoming the standard for even fairly high spec’s sedans. Assuming it was always the plan to build a smaller, cheaper hatchback.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Are they listening or are they reacting to being absolutely crushed by the EVs coming out of China and Korea? Seems like a play for the Chinese market as well where sub 200krmb(29k usd) are becoming the standard for even fairly high spec’s sedans. They are not being crushed due to a good product being sold at high prices, they are being crushed due to a shitload of bugs in the infotainment and ux designed by the criminally insane.
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Doom Rooster posted:Counterpoint, the VW hatch looks bad,always has, and “19 year old pizza delivery guy” is not the demo they should be targeting. That's quite a take! To each their own, I think it looks good and tidy.
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Thomas id2 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TaNKoYLGsQ
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mobby_6kl posted:The Aptera is like the opposite of a perfect city car, massive footprint, optimized for aerodynamics. Would be better suited for roadtrips IMO. Lol I like the VW hatch, I'd have one.
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I like the hatch as well, I wish they would just do an Electric Golf / GTI / R as well, that would be neat, but we're not even getting this one, are we. It does look like a Golf though.
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Rusty posted:I like the hatch as well, I wish they would just do an Electric Golf / GTI / R as well, that would be neat, but we're not even getting this one, are we. It does look like a Golf though. They used to make a golf electric before making the id.3, it was incredibly unremarkable.
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Well that was just them scrambling to get any EV out of the door since they realized that people actually want them and the ID.3 was still some ways off. So they just crammed an EV drivetrain into an ICE golf and called it a day. You could get one cheap as hell though when they finally pushed out the ID.3 and needed to get rid of the inventory. Not great range but great as a cheap electric city car.
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SlowBloke posted:They used to make a golf electric before making the id.3, it was incredibly unremarkable. The id.3 is the EV Golf, and this is the EV Polo, as far as I can tell
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