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Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ

Paradoxish posted:

Housing prices are going to double and mortgage rates are going to stay steady and the median mortgage payment will be $5000/mo by next year

I’m going to sell my house and move somewhere cheaper and use the difference to not have a mortgage.

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JamesKPolk
Apr 9, 2009

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the fed has painted itself into the stupidest and most obvious corner

that just means more data for the market to price in

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


they really need to let stuff play out but they're so afraid of a few empty suits getting wiped out they're risking wiping EVERYONE out

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Getting my pitch deck ready for an app that lets you bid on minimum wage jobs.

This aligns value on both sides of the relationship, creates a sense of employee ownership and monetizes staffing gaps to further create equity for market driven employers.

Danru
May 23, 2022

The trash fires are going to look quaint in about 48 hours https://twitter.com/marxengelslnin/status/1636500410474147851?s=46&t=J2BqIfsmzti0Wyc0pYNkXg

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
my prediction for the endgame is that the fed keeps hiking rates while keeping the money hoses flowing so that anyone other than a bank taking on debt will literally be bled white

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.
It is wild that minimum wage is still $7.25. I wonder if we just never update it again.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
why bother, the dollar will be meaningless in a few years

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
petroyuans

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
I'm personally looking for the inflection point to where going to work at even a decently paying computer janitor job just isn't even worth the fuel and time.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

super sweet best pal posted:

We've known for ages that "No war but class war" cuts through idpol's Gordian knot.

Yeah that's often used by white male leftists to tell women and minorities to shut up about their problems

but yes some hippy liberal picking banks by the gender of their ceo also sucks

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
you get to be ruled by neoliberals or fascists no compromise

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Justin Tyme posted:

they really need to let stuff play out but they're so afraid of a few empty suits getting wiped out they're risking wiping EVERYONE out

it’s one of those hey if i’m wrong we’re all dead anyway

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Jaxyon posted:

Yeah that's often used by white male leftists to tell women and minorities to shut up about their problems

but yes some hippy liberal picking banks by the gender of their ceo also sucks

just needs a little refashion:

"all wars are also the class war"

you're welcome

Pf. Hikikomoriarty
Feb 15, 2003

RO YNSHO


Slippery Tilde
look printing money is bad and inflationary

unless you give it to the banks then it is good

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Jaxyon posted:

Yeah that's often used by white male leftists to tell women and minorities to shut up about their problems

but yes some hippy liberal picking banks by the gender of their ceo also sucks

the leftists in your head dont count

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

listen as part of my platform for 2024 were going to give you tax credits if you spend more than 500 on a loaf of bread in a timespan of 3 days while living in underprivileged neighborhoods

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Twerk from Home posted:

It is wild that minimum wage is still $7.25. I wonder if we just never update it again.

raise the minimum wage? that's how you get inflation!

that, and no other way.

Pf. Hikikomoriarty
Feb 15, 2003

RO YNSHO


Slippery Tilde

Raskolnikov38 posted:

my prediction for the endgame is that the fed keeps hiking rates while keeping the money hoses flowing so that anyone other than a bank taking on debt will literally be bled white

tune in this wednesday to find out!

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Thank you Jim Clyburn for this wonderous time we live in

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

my prediction for the endgame is that the fed keeps hiking rates while keeping the money hoses flowing so that anyone other than a bank taking on debt will literally be bled white

Yeah this is exactly what they are doing. Free money for banks but try and force 10% rates for everyone else until a huge recession and mass layoffs. Intentionally.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Twerk from Home posted:

Yeah this is exactly what they are doing. Free money for banks but try and force 10% rates for everyone else until a huge recession and mass layoffs. Intentionally.

their even saying it out load they want to destroy the economy to save the parasites in any other country or at least most the people would at minimum be rioting but this place is a joke

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Jaxyon posted:

Yeah that's often used by white male leftists to tell women and minorities to shut up about their problems

but yes some hippy liberal picking banks by the gender of their ceo also sucks

Johnny Cache Hit
Oct 17, 2011

dk2m posted:

the way to understand what’s happening right now is not at all what orthodox economics wants to tell you. this is sort of an effort post.

I’m completely simple terms - this is the consequence of Obama and Geithners policy in 2008. when the banks blew up back then, we had a choice - do we as a society protect the creditor or protect the debtor? the answer came clearly down to protecting the creditor - the banks.

the main reason for that is that is because we were in the midst of a revolution - the free trade agreements and de-industrialization policies of Clinton staring with NAFTA and the admittance of China to the WTO in 2001 were turbocharging the equity and bond market.

with labor being squeezed and eventually collapsing by moving overseas, the main enemy of neoliberalism was conquered. unions fell apart and factories shut down, but because of the rise in technology coinciding with dirt cheap foreign labor costs, productivity went through the roof. around the same time, business schools were churning out MBAs that based their framework around finance instead of industrial engineering - older schools like GMI in Flint (now Kettering University) which trained executives to think in terms of industry were giving way to Stanford and Harvard MBAs who prioritized the CFO led model of prioritizing the stockholder.

these coinciding factors led to executives gutting their companies to shutter factories, move them overseas, and largely focus on financial engineering to boost their share price. a characteristic of finance that separates it from a real economy is that financial returns compound while a real economy looks like an S curve - a financial economy simply grows unbounded.

that’s because finance is debt based. banks create debt and make claims on assets. their source comes from thin air - when you apply for a mortgage, they simply push a button and come up with a the money. in theory, they are required to keep a reserve to cover deposits - with deregulation, it has given them less and less to cover on hand, to now virtually guaranteed risk-free government backed bailouts.

i also think it’s important to understand what exactly a bank does. let’s say you deposit some money into one. from a banks balance sheet perspective, your deposit is a liability in an accounting sense. this means that they package the liability, your deposit, into an asset via an exchange on the market.

because a banks primary product is making claims on real assets, they naturally are rent seeking institutions. in order for them to grow and make money, they need 2 things - an ever larger pool of assets to lay claims on and a source of easy credit to lever their claims on to increase their rate of return. the first part is done via privatization - by moving assets from the public domain, such as land or healthcare or education, to the private one, they force the entire population to take on loans, which gives the banks their pool of assets to lay claims on.

the second piece comes from the availability of a Bank themselves to get short term loans. a bank is a special institution under financial capitalism that can enter a repo market with its central bank, the fed. they can collateralize and obtain credit from the central bank and can use that same credit to cover their liabilities (aka deposits) or go into the financial markets and buy stocks, bonds and products.

banks pre 2008 were making extremely risky bets by tapping into the largest debt pool of all - mortgages. because everyone has a mortgage, which pays interest, investment banks began committing outright fraud by packaging garbage loans and making it appear golden and the commercial banks lended loans to anyone with a pulse. this skyrocketed returns across the board as the combination of derivatives and interest bearing loans compounded and grew far beyond the growth of the real economy. in 2008 when it finally collapsed, Obama decided that he would protect the creditors and the only way to do this was to re-inflate the prices of both real estate and the stock market.

this is where the regime of 0 interest rate credit came into play. as money became basically free, banks gave the government all of their toxic bonds and derivatives and in return got free money from the federal reserve to chase returns again. stock buybacks, VC money, institutional housing buybacks, healthcare, insurance, and arbitraging were all turbocharged with QE. this led to an equity and bond market boom as the federal reserve gave the banks enough loans to spread throughout the system to make sure all the distressed houses they had on the balance sheet were not only propped up again, but would eventually far outpace the book value of the homes itself.

as the rally grew, and the economy became more polarized, the creditors and financial class inflated the stock market to obscene levels, but needed more and more assets to lay their credit claims on. this only further impoverished the rest of us, as housing, education and healthcare costs spiraled out of control. rather than see these as the driving costs for what we now call “inflation”, the fed simply doubled down on this regime and left it at near 0 well after the initial recession ended. the small financial class enjoyed unparalleled wealth that had never really been seen before in american history.

what eventually burst this bubble was covid. since we deinsturalized, we faced sudden shortages that caused massive supply/demand imbalances. these causes prices for some goods to spiral, cars for example. in response, the fed dropped another 9 trillion QE regime in which the main intent was to inflate the stock and bond market. this led to the absolutely asinine situation of a soaring stock market amidst collapsing employment.

as covid ended and labor had new gained power to negotiate wages in 2022, the idea of inflation started to really become a mainstream topic in financial news. inflation is really a euphemism for rising wages and employment, but an overall increase of wages would sharply threaten financial returns for all the now CFO led companies and startups. to curb this, the fed decided to raise interest rates.

the problem is that they have flooded the market, since 2008, with low interest rate credit. as companies became flush with cash, especially the tech sector, they parked their money into treasury bonds. most banks barely pay any interest on savings or CDs, something like less than .05%, so wealth individuals and cash plush companies would rather invest in long term t-bonds which were only interrupted after labor suddenly had some negotiation power due to covid.

this whole situation is a consequence of gutting the country of industry and focusing on finance as the primary growth driver. the problem is that now, we have so much credit that has been used to indebt the rest of us, and nearly every bank has underwater bonds as they invested in “safe” treasury bonds, that the system has nowhere to go. the individual actions of banks, such as bailouts, are less of a moral hazard than the overall structure of the economy basically resembling the Soviet Union, but financially rather than via fake production quotas. as the Soviet Union was obsessed with production to to point of it becoming farcical, so we are with finance to the point of it now it being largely fiction as we cannot QE as that would counter act the rate hikes, and we cannot continue the rate hikes as that would collapse more banks. we have to come to the conclusion that banks and creditors ARE the problem, and let them collapse and bring back a goods and consumer spending based economy rather than a fictitious debt based one.

did a copy/paste of this very good post so I wanted to bump it up for others to see :blessed:

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




In Training posted:

NYC is finally moving forward on shifting all the municipal retirees to Medicare advantage. The only other plan offered is a different Medicare advantage plan with even worse prior authorization program. This sucks rear end lol.

Majority approved by all the public sector union leadership as well. gently caress these poo poo heads

premium free? or did they circumvent that law to start charging?

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007


There is a de quote for literally everything. It's like the Simpsons.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/daviddancer/status/1636134437514784768?s=20

Ticketmaster is a defacto monopoly and democrats do nothing and should be ejected from power and never allowed back also imprisoned.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Al! posted:

you get to be ruled by neoliberals or fascists no compromise

Kate Mitchell, 64, has served on the Silicon Valley Bank board since 2010.

During that time, she donated a whopping $50,000 to Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential run, and cried when Trump eventually won.

She told CNBC at the time that she went to a Shinto shrine while on a trip to Kyoto that Thanksgiving to pray.

'I prayed for me and us to get beyond our grieving and shock, and to figure out how to engage and listen to what happened and come back together,' Mitchell said.

She had earlier celebrated how 97 percent of the tech industry's donations were going to Clinton's campaign, suggesting she would be 'friendlier' to their businesses.

'Ninety-seven percent support of Clinton is mind-blowing and really suggests that we're pounding the table.'

But she was less enthusiastic about Democrat candidates in 2020, only donating $593.33 each to the Democratic parties in Minnesota, Nevada and Pennsylvania.

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Jaxyon posted:

Yeah that's often used by white male leftists to tell women and minorities to shut up about their problems

but yes some hippy liberal picking banks by the gender of their ceo also sucks

lol

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/daviddancer/status/1636134437514784768?s=20

Ticketmaster is a defacto monopoly and democrats do nothing and should be ejected from power and never allowed back also imprisoned.

they named the company that harshly controls all the tickets ticketmaster

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/daviddancer/status/1636134437514784768?s=20

Ticketmaster is a defacto monopoly and democrats do nothing and should be ejected from power and never allowed back also imprisoned.

cartels are not a monopoly :smugbert:

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/daviddancer/status/1636134437514784768?s=20

Ticketmaster is a defacto monopoly and democrats do nothing and should be ejected from power and never allowed back also imprisoned.

I’ve never had this problem cause i play video games

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/daviddancer/status/1636134437514784768?s=20

Ticketmaster is a defacto monopoly and democrats do nothing and should be ejected from power and never allowed back also imprisoned.

Ticketmaster's existence retroactively justify Bill Graham's death. :blessed:

sd6
Jan 14, 2008

This has all been posted before, and it will all be posted again

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/daviddancer/status/1636134437514784768?s=20

Ticketmaster is a defacto monopoly and democrats do nothing and should be ejected from power and never allowed back also imprisoned.

The classic Ticketmaster two-step, they've been doing this for decades. Absolute greedy fuckers

Substandard
Oct 16, 2007

3rd street for life
You used to be able to go directly to the venue ticket office and buy tickets without the insane fees, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't work anymore either.

coelomate
Oct 21, 2020


Al! posted:

if you want a picture of the future imagine a boot stomping on a human face, forever

but don't forget the American dream of imagining yourself, in some far off future, getting to be a small part of that boot. For a little while.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Willa Rogers posted:

She told CNBC at the time that she went to a Shinto shrine while on a trip to Kyoto that Thanksgiving to pray.

Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
isn’t the real story that they are just the punching bag for the bands wanting more money, but are too scared to charge more?

Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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FYI all the gold in Ft. Knox…or really that is owned by the federal government regardless of fort sums up to about $283.6 Billion.



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Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Femur posted:

isn’t the real story that they are just the punching bag for the bands wanting more money, but are too scared to charge more?

ticketmaster has an option for bands to choose to charge more for tickets based on demand in the locality, which is just an official ticket scalping feature built in for bands, The Cure did not choose this, but tweeted they tried to keep the prices as low as possible and it still got ballooned. Whatever Robert Smith's words.

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