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Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

A MIRACLE posted:

watched Nope. kinda cool. glad I waited for it to come on streaming tho

putting on Lou with Allison Janney

I saw Nope while I was getting a tattoo done. I thought it was better than Us, but nowhere close to Get Out. I really liked the final reveal of the monster, in both air-stingray and unfolded weird balloon sheet form. I still think about the scene where everyone gets eaten sometimes. What service is it on, I need to watch it again so I have nightmares

e internet says Get Out is on Hulu, but my PlayStation is off so someone else should probably double check lol

Inspector Hound fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Mar 17, 2023

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A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Peacock. Yeah the monster was cool. I just like exposition and closure and they didn’t really give us an epilogue

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


I thought Nope was pretentious, kinda boring, and barely made sense as anything but a tedious layered allegory, but given that it's about the industry, I'm surprised it wasn't a Best Picture nominee.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Name Change posted:

I thought Nope was pretentious, kinda boring, and barely made sense as anything but a tedious layered allegory, but given that it's about the industry, I'm surprised it wasn't a Best Picture nominee.

I thought it made perfect sense as a straight monster story.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

can you explain the allegory I just watched it at face value haha

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

Haha I also remember finishing the movie and thinking, "feels like that was about something but whatever it was went over my head." Someone will probably call us both dumbasses, but whatever.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

I don't know either but later I realized the rodeo guy didn't run or hide because he survived the chimp attack as a child and thought he had plot armor

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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A MIRACLE posted:

can you explain the allegory I just watched it at face value haha

Exploiting animals is bad

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

CelticPredator posted:

Exploiting animals is bad

It's been a while but I vaguely remember thinking it was about exploitation of the performers/talent in Hollywood in general

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Yeah it’s about exploitation (of both actors and audiences) and being obsessed with spectacle mainly

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Tiny Timbs posted:

Yeah it’s about exploitation (of both actors and audiences) and being obsessed with spectacle mainly

It had those elements but I couldn't get them to fit properly in my head to make them add up to anything.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Jolo posted:

Haha I also remember finishing the movie and thinking, "feels like that was about something but whatever it was went over my head." Someone will probably call us both dumbasses, but whatever.

The movie is about exploitation of talent in Hollywood, from the performers down to the animals, and centers around a giant camera in the sky that eventually chews you up and spits you out. Outside of the allegorical context the monster makes no loving sense, for example. The characters are more symbols than they are actual characters. It's SUBTEXT IS FOR COWARDS the movie.

I thought the performances were good and there's roughly 15 excellent minutes, but other than that it's the worst Peele movie by far. I mean I get it, horror is the most successful medium through which to explore marginalized experiences, because otherwise a movie about a historic-but-struggling minority-owned show horse farm is going to make $3. But I was not usually glued to my seat on this one and the repetitive commentary-as-plot didn't add up to much for me.

Saying all this, Us relies on similar elements too, but everything about it is more compelling to me.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Nihonniboku posted:

It seems that Peacock is quickly starting to make more interesting television than parent network NBC has made since Parks and Rec and The Good Place went off the air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIOnrEujKl8

A new show from Damon Lindelof (Lost, The Leftovers, The Watchmen) about a nun (played by
Betty Gilpin) who is tasked by an AI to go on a globe-trotting quest in search of the Holy Grail.

What does Damon Lindelof have against Australia, and how can he be stopped?

doctorthefonz
Nov 17, 2007

RIP Lance Reddick ugh he was only 60 too

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Name Change posted:

The movie is about exploitation of talent in Hollywood, from the performers down to the animals, and centers around a giant camera in the sky that eventually chews you up and spits you out. Outside of the allegorical context the monster makes no loving sense, for example. The characters are more symbols than they are actual characters. It's SUBTEXT IS FOR COWARDS the movie.

What does this mean? I get it with Us, where the underground world doesn't make any logistical sense, but Jean Jacket is just an alien that camouflages itself like a cloud and eats people/horses.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

doctorthefonz posted:

RIP Lance Reddick ugh he was only 60 too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KVyRqloGmk

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

live with fruit posted:

What does this mean? I get it with Us, where the underground world doesn't make any logistical sense, but Jean Jacket is just an alien that camouflages itself like a cloud and eats people/horses.

This is what I like about Nope. Yeah there's some commentary in there, but I feel like just the core monster story is fun. Spoilering because I feel like it's still relatively new.

UFOs, in the sense of flying saucers from the 50s-80s, aren't real. And when you know that (and the existential dread of how far apart everything is creeps in), it makes UFOs a lot less interesting.

But what if they WERE real. And we were just wrong about what they were. Instead it's this organic loving giant ribbon monster. It didn't need to come from space. Like... just that - all the commentary stripped away - is just awesome fun to me. So I can't imagine at least NOT enjoying that part of Nope.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Question for the room: Is Nope about racism? I only ask because everyone always jumps on the surface level exploitation aspect, but I haven't seen anyone ever bring up what Nope has to say about minorities and audience expectations in that regard.

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

I dunno but I just realized the climax of the movie is a guy named OJ outrunning a giant camera in California on a horse (bronco)

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

ruddiger posted:

Question for the room: Is Nope about racism? I only ask because everyone always jumps on the surface level exploitation aspect, but I haven't seen anyone ever bring up what Nope has to say about minorities and audience expectations in that regard.

oh for sure. one of the first scenes had a sullen OJ (and a horse) on an auction block while a bunch of dispassionate and silent white people looked him over.

I think it's about racism in the way America is racist: it's not the whole story of Hollywood exploitation but it is inherent to any discussion of it.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

BonoMan posted:

This is what I like about Nope. Yeah there's some commentary in there, but I feel like just the core monster story is fun. Spoilering because I feel like it's still relatively new.

UFOs, in the sense of flying saucers from the 50s-80s, aren't real. And when you know that (and the existential dread of how far apart everything is creeps in), it makes UFOs a lot less interesting.

But what if they WERE real. And we were just wrong about what they were. Instead it's this organic loving giant ribbon monster. It didn't need to come from space. Like... just that - all the commentary stripped away - is just awesome fun to me. So I can't imagine at least NOT enjoying that part of Nope.


Maybe I'm just not as well read as I like to think but the idea of a UFO that isn't a ship but the actual alien itself was pretty fresh for me.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

live with fruit posted:

Maybe I'm just not as well read as I like to think but the idea of a UFO that isn't a ship but the actual alien itself was pretty fresh for me.

Right? I was just hooked by that alone

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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ruddiger posted:

Question for the room: Is Nope about racism? I only ask because everyone always jumps on the surface level exploitation aspect, but I haven't seen anyone ever bring up what Nope has to say about minorities and audience expectations in that regard.

I think what Peele had said is that it's informed by race because everything he makes is informed by race just because of his experiences and life, but it's not necessarily about race nor specifically a comment on race in America.

It is about exploitation and spectacle, how we exploit others, nature, or tragedy to create spectacle and how that corrupts us. The specific text of the movie centers around exploiting animals in Hollywood and one man very much exploiting a tragedy.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


ruddiger posted:

Question for the room: Is Nope about racism? I only ask because everyone always jumps on the surface level exploitation aspect, but I haven't seen anyone ever bring up what Nope has to say about minorities and audience expectations in that regard.

It's also about racism, but it's about as nuanced and thought-provoking as the scene Famethrowa described.

Almost everything about the movie comes off as pretentious to me. It's a "monster" that can only be defeated by understanding the origins of filmmaking. Only by actively ignoring the temptation of looking into the camera can you protect yourself from its danger. The TMZ guy is anonymous aside from his completely reflective helmet. Constantly operating on this "clever" level. It's a not particularly good M. Night Shyamalan movie.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Name Change posted:

It's also about racism, but it's about as nuanced and thought-provoking as the scene Famethrowa described.

Almost everything about the movie comes off as pretentious to me. It's a "monster" that can only be defeated by understanding the origins of filmmaking. Only by actively ignoring the temptation of looking into the camera can you protect yourself from its danger. The TMZ guy is anonymous aside from his completely reflective helmet. Constantly operating on this "clever" level. It's a not particularly good M. Night Shyamalan movie.

Don't listen to this film school 101 jabroni.

Nope is a great fun time that never takes itself too seriously.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
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It can only be defeated by knowing the origins of filmmaking: popping it like a big balloon

pumped up for school
Nov 24, 2010

The "Nope" scene in the barn is one of my favorite scenes I watched last year.

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

The nice thing about art is that you can still appreciate and enjoy it even if you don't fully understand whatever the creator was trying to say. Like, the people who just root for Walter White and think Skylar is a big meanie still enjoy the show even if they're probably not fully engaging with the themes.

Another example would be something like Mulholland Drive. I don't fully understand what is happening and what it all means, but if you ask me how the scene with the Cowboy made me feel... Buddy, riveted. Transfixed. Betty's audition? Dude. Etc etc.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Baron von Eevl posted:

It can only be defeated by knowing the origins of filmmaking: popping it like a big balloon[/ porn

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I feel like ppl are just adsing their issues at this movie. Nope did a great job creating a great sci fi thriller and anything else was just icing on the cake.

Better than US but still not quite a Get Out which is a one a generation movie.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Shageletic posted:

I feel like ppl are just adsing their issues at this movie. Nope did a great job creating a great sci fi thriller and anything else was just icing on the cake.

Better than US but still not quite a Get Out which is a one a generation movie.

It was a decent movie that was about 30 minutes too long directed by someone who a studio was too afraid to say no to

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Name Change posted:

It's also about racism, but it's about as nuanced and thought-provoking as the scene Famethrowa described.

Almost everything about the movie comes off as pretentious to me. It's a "monster" that can only be defeated by understanding the origins of filmmaking. Only by actively ignoring the temptation of looking into the camera can you protect yourself from its danger. The TMZ guy is anonymous aside from his completely reflective helmet. Constantly operating on this "clever" level. It's a not particularly good M. Night Shyamalan movie.

couldn't agree less. it also was just a good straight up monster movie.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Jolo posted:

The nice thing about art is that you can still appreciate and enjoy it even if you don't fully understand whatever the creator was trying to say. Like, the people who just root for Walter White and think Skylar is a big meanie still enjoy the show even if they're probably not fully engaging with the themes.

Another example would be something like Mulholland Drive. I don't fully understand what is happening and what it all means, but if you ask me how the scene with the Cowboy made me feel... Buddy, riveted. Transfixed. Betty's audition? Dude. Etc etc.

Mulholland Drive is all vibes. I don’t even think David Lynch knows whats happening 100%.

Tainen
Jan 23, 2004
Edit: wrong thread

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Nope was cool, would be a good big screen movie like top gun

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Nope is my favorite Peele movie; very much a mood piece with a unique monster. I especially liked the part where the social media influencer dipshit got merked.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

mcmagic posted:

Mulholland Drive is all vibes. I don’t even think David Lynch knows whats happening 100%.

I know he claimed at one point that he knows exactly what he's doing in his movies but he's never going to tell the audience what his intentions were. I think it might have been Lost Highway he was talking about.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Nope is better than get out bc aliens >>> everything

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Nope has all sorts individual elements that are awesome but I'm not sure if I think they all come together that well.

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SwissDonkey
Mar 29, 2007

Nope loving owned. It had a little bit of allegory in there about the film industry but it was very much more about being a fun horror/sci fi movie. It's not high brow cinema and it really shouldn't be judged as such. It's by far the best 50s inspired B movie ever made.

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