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Drakenel posted:Grunty's rapping career was tragically ended early by the philistines of spiral mountain. Sadly in this era rap just wasn't that popular; it got crushed by rock.
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No I shan't, to rhyme I'll dare, Your threats can't stop the bird and bear! 
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Simply Simon posted:For me, the interconnectedness between levels is the best part! Once I realized that most levels have gates to other levels, that blew me away as a kid. I never expected a platform game to do that. And it makes for some really clever setups. This is how I feel about it, honestly. The interconnectedness makes it feel like an actual world you're exploring, underscored by the Isle O' Hags. Is Tooie perhaps a bit overambitious with some of its Jiggies? Like, say, fixing the pigs' pool in Jolly Roger's Lagoon? Absolutely. But I'd rather play a sequel that tries to be more ambitious or do things differently. Tooie's QoL improvements also make it easier to go back to than Kazooie imo, which I found out when I played the former most of the way through on Gamepass Ultimate on pc (you can actually do this although at the time connecting to the cloud streaming was a bit dodgy) and then introduced a nibling to Kazooie on Switch and was like "wow yeah ok this is sure a thing." Watching them die with like, 90 notes and have to collect them all again hurt big time. Anyway, excited to watch how this one unfolds! edit: mirotic that's not how you do spoilers on the forums Mirotic fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Mar 19, 2023 |
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Someone's been using Discord too much. Spoiler tags don't work that way here. I've caught myself making that mistake a couple of times.
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I liked the connectedness of everything, but it feels like you could have cut the scale of a lot of it in half and not lost anything.
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Dabir posted:Someone's been using Discord too much. Spoiler tags don't work that way here. I've caught myself making that mistake a couple of times. It's not my fault I spend way too much time on the goon feh discord!! anyway, edited.
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Tooie is basically a prototype open world game from before that concept had a fleshed out identity. To give a timeliness reference to where everything was, Toole came out a year before gta III. This probably had a lot to do with why the general opinion on it mildly soured over time: at release this big open connected world was a huge deal, fairly unique, and novel. Now the general impression of another open world game is oh God, not another one.
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I'm gonna bring this up in like, the second level but there's a really good video on Goldeneye that basically makes the point that although it's obviously an FPS, it uses a bunch of mechanics from stealth games to augment the feeling of being like James Bond; sneaking around enemies, destroying alarms, but getting caught and then having a big firefight break out and whatnot. The argument I would make is that Tooie is doing the same thing with Metroidvanias to augment the collectathon, although to a less successful degree.
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+1 for liking the interconnectivity of the worlds in Tooie. It makes the Isle O' Hags feel like an actual place, even if the layout of everything in relation to everything else makes no sense, in a way that the discrete levels in Kazooie didn't. I do agree though that the game gets pretty buck with having to do stuff in a few different worlds in order to collect some Jiggies.
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Simply Simon posted:For me, the interconnectedness between levels is the best part! Once I realized that most levels have gates to other levels, that blew me away as a kid. I never expected a platform game to do that. And it makes for some really clever setups. So I actually agree with like 90% of this in that doing this as a kid was awesome. Young me would get one game every like 3-4 months so being able to just slowly explore and clear everything out ruled. And I think it's the same reason that Tooie just didn't age as well as Kazooie did to me. As an adult I want to clear a level and move on because I'm perfectly capable of doing a 100% no kill stealth run on my first attempt (Literally what i did on my only run through Dishonored).
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Natural 20 posted:So I actually agree with like 90% of this in that doing this as a kid was awesome. Same story for Deus Ex Human Revolution. I did finish my first no kill run (no stealth tho) but it took forever, then I was much more relaxed playing it with her, and then I replayed it twice more to get the all stealth and no alarms achievements. Maybe I just suck at stealth games. Anyway, a general difference between me and other players, and that's totally fair, is that I replay games a lot, and that changes the approach obviously. Hell, I'd replay Tooie right now if I wasn't already replaying Metroid Prime (Remastered, granted), and Dishonored 2 (with my wife! It's a replay for her too).
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With Dishonored I did 90% all stealth no kills but would kill if I absolutely needed to because gently caress this poo poo. I was more relaxed early on but ended up more no-kill once I got skills that enabled me to basically spiderman from high and zip people back there and just build enormous piles of unconscious people on the roof. But yeah, to enjoy Dishonored I did have to learn to accept the occasional necessary throat-slash.
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I just noticed that the spiritual successor to the Banjo series, Yooka Laylee is currently only $4 in the Steam Spring Sale.
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Yooka-Laylee is certainly very much a Banjo Kazooie/Tooie game, with all that implies. The Not-DKC sequel is the better game, but I still enjoyed what YL did. And yeah, the conspicuous lack of a ledge grab in BK was a pain. (I still can't believe Argate got the Rusty Bucket Bay witch switch so easily.)
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agrate's a legend is how
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 Gonna be a little early with updates for the rest of the month I think because I'm posting from Japan so I'm 13 hours ahead of my usual time zone.
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Ooooh look at you travelling the world! Have a great time!
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So, I never played these games when I was a kid. But seeing that first person aiming is giving me star fox adventures PTSD, and now I'm sad for you.
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I'm not a Fire Emblem Person, but I like that Rare just used the FE level up sound each time JamJars gets done teaching you a move.
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I really like how many different things they came up with for you to do with the giant statue. Open a door, make a small hole in another, break a rock, be tall and invulnerable, and destroy the shooty things for good measure; it's cool. In contrast, the "shoot flies, okay here's a jiggy" is so basic it seems like a holdover from the first game and sticks out in the lack of complexity. And they made an NPC for it! Always feels weird to me.
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Mar 21, 2023 18:31
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It's a tutorial for your new precision aiming move, it's fine that it's basic.
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The first time you use a Mumbo pad, you can see the Glowbo jump out of his bag and run away while he does the spell. No Glowbos are harmed in this game.
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Oh man, cutting it right there but leaving in the noise for the animation was just cruel
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Dabir posted:It's a tutorial for your new precision aiming move, it's fine that it's basic.
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 FoolyCharged posted:Oh man, cutting it right there but leaving in the noise for the animation was just cruel I think the soundtrack rip I got for this game was recorded directly from the game, I've noticed a lot of sound effects in the rip in other places.
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ChaosArgate posted:
Slightly interesting fact...even though you saw that the left sacred chamber opened first, the one Banjo enters first is always the slightly sacred chamber.
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Destructible cover isn't exactly a new innovation by the folks at Rare. It was first seen in 1978, in a little-known game called, er, Space Invaders.
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It's kind of funny to see the boss actually engaged with. At this point I've just grabbed the golden eggs and circle strafed opposite his rotation and just shredded him almost instantly. Which is the best way to fight him even without the golden eggs because he literally can't hit you if your not in his face.
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Yeah - and then there was the way Humba was represented in Nuts and Bolts that was also very insensitive... Although I can believe, Rare being British, that they were genuinely innocent in that respect. But here... Yeah, it ain't good.
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Samovar posted:Yeah - and then there was the way Humba was represented in Nuts and Bolts that was also very insensitive... Although I can believe, Rare being British, that they were genuinely innocent in that respect. But here... Yeah, it ain't good. It's not really a culture we are exposed to outside old stereotypes in the media, I imagine Rare's knowledge comes from TV shows like Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman which did air here.
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I can see why people say this is less fun than Kazooie. Feels like it's suffering from game mode bloat.
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Dabir posted:I can see why people say this is less fun than Kazooie. Feels like it's suffering from game mode bloat. Honestly, in my mind this is the worst and dullest of the levels. It's a boring space that's half tutorials. There's other stages that are more frustrating, but this one's just a nothingburger. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Mar 28, 2023 |
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Eh, I would happily play more of Mayaham Temple if it meant we didn't have Levels 5 or 6. The real problem with Tooie is that it's a game of extremes. The good levels are better than anything in Kazooie, and the bad ones are way, *way* worse.
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Samovar posted:Yeah - and then there was the way Humba was represented in Nuts and Bolts that was also very insensitive... Although I can believe, Rare being British, that they were genuinely innocent in that respect. But here... Yeah, it ain't good. She also caught a lot of flak at the time for how sexualized her design is to boot, and some general writing that many people feel is misogynistic as well as racist.
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Artix posted:Eh, I would happily play more of Mayaham Temple if it meant we didn't have Levels 5 or 6. The real problem with Tooie is that it's a game of extremes. The good levels are better than anything in Kazooie, and the bad ones are way, *way* worse. 6 definitely has lots of problems but I can’t really think of what’s wrong with 5. It’s mostly secondhand but I also think Level 4 has huge problems.
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AweStriker posted:It’s mostly secondhand but I also think Level 4 has huge problems. Maybe but the charm defeats the problems for me.
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I will say the music in this level got repetitive after a while.
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Level 3 is just plain excellent though and 8 is a level I wouldn't trade for anything else.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I will say the music in this level got repetitive after a while. Eekum bokum eekum bokum eekum bokum inyo up
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