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I guess it hinges on what exactly those "loose ends" are. There are several ways to interpret it.
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Things that jump to mind that I feel might have not led me to the best outcome - not helping Evrart - not helping Joyce - not finding my gun - not finishing the church or bringing the filament memory from the ice maker - not figuring something about the Dolores Dei window - not understanding the origin of the *Expression* - everyone except Gene and Alain died during the merc tribunal loving tie - not figuring out who the scab leader was - not finishing the raver quest or getting Acele to open up - how do I talk to egghead - not finding out Lely's real name
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Mar 18, 2023 19:11
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Ok, that's... A lot. I would've assumed some of those were mandatory, lol.
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Mar 18, 2023 19:15
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I'm going to be honest I'm...impressed you managed to finish the game somehow
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Mar 18, 2023 19:24
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Bedshaped posted:Things that jump to mind that I feel might have not led me to the best outcome Good lord. Did you take the time limit seriously? Cause it doesn't really matter.
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Mar 18, 2023 19:26
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Bedshaped posted:Things that jump to mind that I feel might have not led me to the best outcome Of course it might simply just not work for you but considering that might be way more since you are saying things that come to mind, you are missing on whole huge chunks of the game
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Mar 18, 2023 19:32
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Bedshaped posted:Things that jump to mind that I feel might have not led me to the best outcome I also did not do any of these and thought DE was the greatest thing ever, and I loving loved the ending. Tbh I kind of like the version of the ending where you don't talk to the phasmid more than the full thing.
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I didn't help Soona out because I had sold the filament memory earlier on so I could have that money to spend on dumb poo poo. still pretty happy with that choice (it's funny), maybe I'll change that on a replay something I never see mentioned re: workplace allegations is that we have a first-hand account, from the art book, of multiple people having left by the time of the game's release. it doesn't have to be nefarious, but that definitely points towards some concrete things scaring people away. might have been as simple as running out of money to pay employees with Ramie fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Mar 18, 2023 |
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Mar 18, 2023 19:48
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Bedshaped posted:Things that jump to mind that I feel might have not led me to the best outcome Should be an achievement for being as socially avoidant ingame as you are in real life. I'm seriously impressed.
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Mar 18, 2023 20:06
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catgirlgenius posted:I didn't help Soona out because I had sold the filament memory earlier on so I could have that money to spend on dumb poo poo. still pretty happy with that choice (it's funny), maybe I'll change that on a replay The game took a really long time to make, and from reading some of the interviews, during the first few years the game was not even being worked on full time because the lack of funding. It was not until after the money man showed up (chiefly Kendor) that they were able to really make progress.
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Mar 18, 2023 20:14
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Bedshaped posted:Things that jump to mind that I feel might have not led me to the best outcome See, while those are all interesting things to do, it's not gonna change the ending at all.
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Mar 18, 2023 20:23
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I did guess that the whole in universe story of a fledgling gaming studio getting way over their heads and falling apart was semi-autobiographical.
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The legal drama *is* the unpublished novel It's extremely meta! Metaaaaa!
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No one is helping me find my hope for the DE team.
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Sankara posted:See, while those are all interesting things to do, it's not gonna change the ending at all. Absolutely worth another playthrough to do those things though.
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Sankara posted:Disco Elysium's ending is one of the most beautiful emotional things I've ever experienced. If you didn't like it, I'm not sure what another playthru would do. If you mean the leggy boi and the deserter, then yes, but the game just kind of stops and does ending sides via dialogue after that and I remember it as feeling fairly abrupt.
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The abruptness of the ending was genius to me. The game was always about one thing: the case. Now that it's solved, the case is shut. Everything else was a sideplot. Kim was right.
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Mar 18, 2023 22:39
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Youremother posted:The abruptness of the ending was genius to me. The game was always about one thing: the case. Now that it's solved, the case is shut. Everything else was a sideplot. Kim was right. No sir, I think you are wrong.
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Mar 18, 2023 22:45
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Pacing wise I thought it was fine - the game all but smashes through the 4th wall to tell you 'this is the point of no return' and the final section is telegraphed in every way as the last thing you will do. On the other hand, the return to the mainland to find Harry's colleagues lined up to debrief you felt a little contrived in a way that nothing else in the game did, and it was very 'transition into epilogue time now'.
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Alchenar posted:Pacing wise I thought it was fine - the game all but smashes through the 4th wall to tell you 'this is the point of no return' and the final section is telegraphed in every way as the last thing you will do. The debrief is a pretty important set piece though: it’s new (your) Harry proving his deal. Wiping Vicquemare’s floor under him probably would be a critical factor for what was planned for whatever the continuation of DE would be, either DLC or a full fledged sequel.
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Also the game appears to be one giant commentary about ideology that has it's crescendo with the Deserter. Then you find out that his mind has been spaghetti'd by a daddy long legs and it feels like the game just tripped up before the finish line messaging-wise. Or else I'm missing what the narrative point of what discovering what is in the reeds...
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Bedshaped posted:Also the game appears to be one giant commentary about ideology Well the core team are marxists-leninists so
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Bedshaped posted:Or else I'm missing what the narrative point of what discovering what is in the reeds... The Deserter is a cracked mirror image of Harry, and what he's going to become one day if he doesn't improve himself. The Deserter's memories are gone, he's completely dependent on an external drug to survive, and the failures of his youth are ruling his entire life. The only thing Iosef has left is his ideology, and it's a twisted mockery of the actual tenets of communism. The discovery of the phasmid is the most important part of the game: it shows that despite everything, despite the horrors of the war and the failures of the government and the nightmare that is capitalism, there is true beauty and wonder in the world. There's something to fight for.
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Youremother posted:The Deserter is a cracked mirror image of Harry, and what he's going to become one day if he doesn't improve himself. The Deserter's memories are gone, he's completely dependent on an external drug to survive, and the failures of his youth are ruling his entire life. The only thing Iosef has left is his ideology, and it's a twisted mockery of the actual tenets of communism. The discovery of the phasmid is the most important part of the game: it shows that despite everything, despite the horrors of the war and the failures of the government and the nightmare that is capitalism, there is true beauty and wonder in the world. There's something to fight for. Harry is not the Deserter, we are the Deserter. Its only until the pre final scene we realize how much we crave acceptance, specifically for the emotions we feel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un4p-6lzIpI
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God is in His Heaven! Everything's normal on Earth! Thanks a million! 😁👍
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Bedshaped posted:Things that jump to mind that I feel might have not led me to the best outcome Oh you should definitely do another playthrough because you can do all these things and more. The church subplot imparticular has some of my favorite things in the whole game. Would be happy to give you info on how to accomplish certain things if you'd like. Some bits are intuitive, others not so much.
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Mar 19, 2023 01:05
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Get in the Kineema, Harry
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Did you at least take a nap on the Island? That's a good chunk of the ending and its something I missed my first time through.
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The nap on the island is super loving important, never forget to take a nap on the island. I prefer doing it after meeting the Deserter.
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They honestly should've found some contrived way for Harry to have a heart attack and pass out or get bonked and lose consciousness. Having Kim tell you to take a nap when you're ten feet away from a serial killer strains credulity to the breaking point right before the finish line.
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Which is exactly why I prefer doing it after the confrontation, knowing the dude is completely out of commission and Kim can keep an eye on him gives Harry the perfect time to catch some Z's - and makes the true final boss of the game all the more heartbreaking
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Gaius Marius posted:They honestly should've found some contrived way for Harry to have a heart attack and pass out or get bonked and lose consciousness. Having Kim tell you to take a nap when you're ten feet away from a serial killer strains credulity to the breaking point right before the finish line. the least contrived time for the dream to happen was immediately post-tribunal as harry is in compulsory convalescence but I get wanting to split up the big beats of the endgame a little
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Youremother posted:Which is exactly why I prefer doing it after the confrontation, knowing the dude is completely out of commission and Kim can keep an eye on him gives Harry the perfect time to catch some Z's - and makes the true final boss of the game all the more heartbreaking I think it also makes sense to nap as soon as you get to the island, because at that point Harry is still recovering from massive body trauma and Kim still doesn't really believe the killer is on the island. It's not until you find the snipers nest that Kim gets the "Oh poo poo this might be real" thought. Hence why Kim let Harry blast Sad FM on the way over because at that point the lieutenant was in full "gently caress it, why not" mode.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I think it also makes sense to nap as soon as you get to the island, because at that point Harry is still recovering from massive body trauma and Kim still doesn't really believe the killer is on the island. It's not until you find the snipers nest that Kim gets the "Oh poo poo this might be real" thought. Hence why Kim let Harry blast Sad FM on the way over because at that point the lieutenant was in full "gently caress it, why not" mode. You can find out someone is there by talking to the twins. It's also apparent the place is lived in before you get to the sniper's nest. Kim's a lame binoclard with a low conceptualization score, he's barely sapient.
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Bedshaped posted:Things that jump to mind that I feel might have not led me to the best outcome Did... did you ever get a reality lowdown? That is on the list of things you can miss that you should absolutely not miss.
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Bedshaped posted:Things that jump to mind that I feel might have not led me to the best outcome That's... a lot, and I would definitely recommend the other elements people are suggesting. I think you should definitely play more of the game to better experience the themes that make the ending resonate. And definitely sleep on the island, and do the communist political quest perhaps.
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Gaius Marius posted:They honestly should've found some contrived way for Harry to have a heart attack and pass out or get bonked and lose consciousness. Having Kim tell you to take a nap when you're ten feet away from a serial killer strains credulity to the breaking point right before the finish line. And indeed I was immensely rewarded, though not in the way I was anticipating.
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There was a post / article ages ago talking about how there’s 8(?) rules for telling a mystery story and Disco Elysium proudly and deliberately breaks every single one of them… does anybody remember what I’m talking about?
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Hey talentless studio boss man, I just found out a way you can repackage the game and the fans will LOVE you for it: Lt. Kittsuragi: "stop smoking all my catnip cigarettes Harry."
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