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priznat posted:It is always bullshit to me how morb gets the benefits in hand/deck while the collector doesn’t Collector can't be Enchantressed. I will take that trade-off any day.
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KazigluBey posted:Isn't it just a visual change? Your Knull and Morbius are going to have the same power they had before once on the board, the difference is only visual, before they're played, if I understand this right. There is a functional difference: If you Mister Negatived with Knull in your deck before this change, your Knull would get a cost set to the current ongoing value, so if you destroyed 10 power worth of cards and Mister Negatived, your Knull would be 10 cost. With this change, the ongoing effect doesn't start until it hits the table, so Knull will become 0 cost with Mister Negative, no matter how much you've already destroyed. So it's purely a buff, outside of maybe weird decks built around Mister Negative and Lady Sif or Colleen Wing, but no one runs a deck like that.
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doingitwrong posted:Collector can't be Enchantressed. I will take that trade-off any day. Ah good point Speaking of, I am trying out a really nice balanced deck from the recent Cosy video and I like it, but I was debating putting enchantress in instead of cosmo Sunspot Iceman Zero Scorpion Lizard Armor Cosmo Shang Chi Aero Red Skull Doctor Doom She Hulk eyJOYW1lIjoiR29vZCBDYXJkcyIsIkNhcmRzIjpbeyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBZXJvIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBcm1vciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ29zbW8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkRyRG9vbSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSWNlbWFuIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJMaXphcmQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJlZFNrdWxsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTY29ycGlvbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhbmdDaGkifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoZUh1bGsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlN1bnNwb3QifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ilplcm8ifV19 Dunno if the changes affect that too much
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The Morbious nerf may not change my gameplay with him too much but it killed any need to have Black Cat in my deck.
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Hobo Clown posted:The Morbious nerf may not change my gameplay with him too much but it killed any need to have Black Cat in my deck.
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Mar 21, 2023 17:34
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People who kept complaining about Cyclops being a lame vanilla card can stop now. 
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BoldFace posted:People who kept complaining about Cyclops being a lame vanilla card can stop now. Nah nah nah
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Hobo Clown posted:The Morbious nerf may not change my gameplay with him too much but it killed any need to have Black Cat in my deck. Also yes it's true people will just run She-Hulk / Taskmaster with shuri now instead of Red Skull, however that is 18+18 power instead of 22-30 + 30 power which is a big difference and does hurt winrate, plus it means you can't play Task + a 1-drop like Titania on turn 6. These nerfs are good nerfs because they don't destroy the deck but do hurt its winrate. As for the Aero nerf i'm not sure if its good or bad for Shuri decks but it is SO loving GOOD for the game because the most frustrating thing with Aero was knowing she is coming but not being able to do jack poo poo about it. Now I can counterplay it with a well-placed 1-cost or whatever, which is much more fun. Bisse fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Mar 21, 2023 |
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BoldFace posted:People who kept complaining about Cyclops being a lame vanilla card can stop now. Oh man, the full "random deck" experience. I cannot wait.
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BoldFace posted:People who kept complaining about Cyclops being a lame vanilla card can stop now.
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They really should have made it clearer that Knull and Morbius aren't losing anything while in play. I had a moment of panic thinking my Knullikins would be useless.
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Ah, the joys of playing on iOS and finding out about this new shop later tonight.
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CitizenKeen posted:Ah, the joys of playing on iOS and finding out about this new shop later tonight. The patch is already up on iOS, I pulled it down an hour or so ago.
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So I'm guessing that spoiler card will be the next perma pool 6 big baddie.
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If your opponent plays 3, but their last card happens to be on the same lane as Aero, she doesn't move anything. This is not a nerf, it's a death sentence. She's garbage now.
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CitizenKeen posted:Ah, the joys of playing on iOS and finding out about this new shop later tonight. Maybe I'm just bad at iOS? I kept refreshing the store, and opening Snap, but I guess I had to go into the Snap page. My bad.
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CitizenKeen posted:Oh man, the full "random deck" experience. I cannot wait. It's not random, the 'no ability' cards all have a fixed secret ability.
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BoldFace posted:People who kept complaining about Cyclops being a lame vanilla card can stop now. Marvel Snap Zone says that each one has a different, specific ability: Evolved Wasp [0/1]: On Reveal: Afflict # random enemy cards here with -# Power. Evolved Misty Knight [1/2]: When you end a turn with unspent Energy, give another friendly card +# Power. Evolved Shocker [2/3]: On Reveal: Give the leftmost card in your hand -# Cost. Evolved Cyclops [3/4]: When you end a turn with unspent Energy, afflict # random enemies here with -# Power. Evolved The Thing [4/6]: On Reveal: Afflict a random enemy card here with -# Power. Repeat this twice more. Evolved Abomination [5/9]: Costs # less for each enemy card in play that’s afflicted with negative Power. Evolved Hulk [6/12]: Ongoing: +# Power for each turn you ended with unspent Energy.
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So uh if you have Shuri pinned, grab her because l o loving l she's now uncontestedly the best deck in the format.
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Man, gently caress Bast. That's twice he's come out X-Mansion to tank my hand
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BoldFace posted:People who kept complaining about Cyclops being a lame vanilla card can stop now. I just flipped back to my Patriot deck since it seems like my best bet now, so ho ho ho
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doingitwrong posted:Collector can't be Enchantressed. I will take that trade-off any day. is the only reason Collector (or any card) doesn't say "ongoing:" to avoid card effects that target ongoing effects? or is there another reason?
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Youremother posted:I wonder, will High Evolutionary have synergy with Patriot or will say drawing him from X Mansion kill you game plan?
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No Wave posted:I think he'll have to turn off patriot. It would be legit too good otherwise. Wouldn’t it just be patriot doesn’t buff those cards anymore because now they do have abilities (but could still buff rocks/raptors etc)
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priznat posted:Wouldn’t it just be patriot doesn’t buff those cards anymore because now they do have abilities (but could still buff rocks/raptors etc) HE just straight up being a 4/7 is kind of zany too. There arent any other straight up 4/7s! No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Mar 21, 2023 |
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BoldFace posted:People who kept complaining about Cyclops being a lame vanilla card can stop now. That looks really neat (and a good excuse to print multiple "no ability" cards). I'm not usually one to complain about balance changes, but changing Red Skull with the specific reasoning that it had to be done to nerf Shuri just seems way off target. Like, I don't really even mind the change, in a vacuum, but if one card is a problem you can't just go and change every other existing card and have to always think about Shuri when printing new cards. There are other decks out there for Red Skull besides Shuri decks. Just nerf Shuri  Question about Jessica Jones. Since her VFX moves with her now, does that mean you can play a card where she was and she will get the boost as long as you don't play a card where she now is? Or did they just make that even less intuitive? I think with these changes I'll give my Deathwave deck another go, or my Moongirl/Magik/Shehulk, since I don't have to worry about Aero pooling my T6/T7 drops in a single lane. Besides all that, I observed a funny interaction faced by an unfortunate Thanos player. T3 they drop Lockjaw and 3 stones. Reality Stone changes the location to miniaturized lab. Lockjaw proceeds to suck away each stone and replace them with nothing.
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Are those the only cards that get High Evolutionary buffs? Not any of the tokens like Squirrels or Demon?
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Scrap Dragon posted:Are those the only cards that get High Evolutionary buffs? Not any of the tokens like Squirrels or Demon? It seems to just be actual cards.
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HE is legit just a weird design. His statline is so solid that there's very little cost of running him. I dont really get it, only one or two of the cards he buffs have to be really good then he's super strong if none of them are good what's the point. Love that the whole archetype is intended to be run with sunspot and she hulk too, those niche cards needed the help.
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cgeq posted:I'm not usually one to complain about balance changes, but changing Red Skull with the specific reasoning that it had to be done to nerf Shuri just seems way off target. Like, I don't really even mind the change, in a vacuum, but if one card is a problem you can't just go and change every other existing card and have to always think about Shuri when printing new cards. There are other decks out there for Red Skull besides Shuri decks. Just nerf Shuri Eh I mean the Red Skull change isn't even really a nerf. Not for Shuri and not for most other purposes. 15/+2 between and 13/+1, the second's kind of better: in a full opposing lane, it's a 5/9 vs earlier being a 5/7. Even with Shuri it's 30/+2 vs 26/+1, or an effective 22 power vs an effective... 22 power.
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Opopanax posted:The knull/Morbius nerf definitely seems uncalled for, I don't see how it was confusing at all, and I don't get the Devil Dino comparisons since the function pretty differently They havn't changed how he works in practice
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 As prophesy demands. (First card from a reserve after update)
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Wait high evolutionary is broken. You can just run evolved misty + sunspot to double sunspot. Imagine if they actually balanced the cards that needed to be balanced.
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No Wave posted:Wait high evolutionary is broken. You can just run evolved misty + sunspot to double sunspot. Imagine if they actually balanced the cards that needed to be balanced. You can't really judge the balance of a card not actually announced and just found through data mining. High Evolutionary isn't out yet, and other cards, like Howard the Duck and Nebula have changed a few times in data mined data.
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Chainclaw posted:You can't really judge the balance of a card not actually announced and just found through data mining. High Evolutionary isn't out yet, and other cards, like Howard the Duck and Nebula have changed a few times in data mined data.
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cgeq posted:So how does the new free S3 card work? By when do I need to claim my free card? By the end of the current season? So in about 2 weeks? And as soon as the new season starts I can pick another S3 card? Just go to the shop, it will be there unless you're already S3-complete after the drops. I went in and my shop had room for M'Baku.
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