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No Wave posted:Wait high evolutionary is broken. You can just run evolved misty + sunspot to double sunspot. Imagine if they actually balanced the cards that needed to be balanced. Misty adds 1, not whatever you have left. It's not double sunspot.
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uXs posted:Misty adds 1, not whatever you have left. It's not double sunspot.
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uXs posted:If your opponent plays 3, but their last card happens to be on the same lane as Aero, she doesn't move anything. I said it last week, Wasp just became the best Aero counter in the game. I already replaced her in the decks she was in.
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so counteraero now is important card first, and crap card after?
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Snazzy Frocks posted:so counteraero now is important card first, and crap card after? You got it. [Ms. Marvel winking thumbs up]
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Got Orka in the free card shop. He's the only S3 I don't have, and I don't particularly want him. Given the 4x token rate for those who aren't S3 complete, should I just ignore him?
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Isn't the token gain the same now for S3 complete and S3 incomplete? I had thought the token change was bringing up the incomplete group to the token gain of the complete group
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psychopomp posted:Got Orka in the free card shop. He's the only S3 I don't have, and I don't particularly want him. Given the 4x token rate for those who aren't S3 complete, should I just ignore him?
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I reluctantly claimed orka, sighing while doing so. I had attuma and mbaku already so I’m back to p3 complete!
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I have just under a dozen pool 3 cards left to snag, and wanted to consult you all in those I should prioritize. I know some are trash, but which of these should be on my want list? I dabble in different decks (mostly discard) which probably accounts for why I feel like I can’t pilot any very well so I’m not bound to any archetype. I’m torn between Electro (and Goose for some reason) but along with those two I still need: Black Cat, Capt Marvel, Cerebro, Debrii, Destroyer, Giganto, Green Goblin, Kingpin and Ultron I’ve only glanced at the patch notes so I’m not familiar with any anticipated upcoming shifts to the meta that might influence my choice.
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No Wave posted:I promise you it did not. Play your old deck and you'll see what I mean. Ok, so it's just a visual change? Morbius reads as 0 in your hand but pops up to where he should be once he's in play? Makes sense I guess if it's just to get him more consistent with how other cards display
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I’m really loving annoyed they didn’t nerf Shuri. And even more annoyed that she’s the first one to appear in my token shop today. Should I buy Shuri or wait for a big bad? It really feels like they hosed this all up today. Aero nerf is probably fine, same with Shulk nerf. Why the gently caress did they buff Red Skull? I don’t get it.
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That Taskmaster nerf really sucks. I basically used him as a counter to Shang-Chi in my Big Beefy Boyz decks, and now that's loving gone.
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One of the devs was doing some twitter Q&A today. He said Thanos had one bad matchup, some sera killmonger thing (48% matchup). Shuri had one bad matchup, Thanos (46%). So then they nerf Thanos and not shuri? He also said their internal experts on Shuri were confident that 12 power red skull would be going too far. I just dont rly understand it seems like alien talk to me.
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https://twitter.com/MarvelSnapZone/status/1638241334292287488?t=vXfVieLPOe161kKD4aJgHg&s=19 Wow. Howard is surprisingly good. Combined with Iron Lad can be devastating. Even then to know a draw ahead can help a ton.
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Hey, our first "tap" card. I guess that answers how the possible data-mined Kitty Pryde might work? (Since i believe she is also going to be a "tap to activate" type of card?) Hopefully there's a tap to confirm...I mean, doesn't matter much with Howard, but if future cards have "Tap to do X" that have bigger effects, it would be a nice feature to not accidentally activate them.
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No Wave posted:One of the devs was doing some twitter Q&A today. He said Thanos had one bad matchup, some sera killmonger thing (48% matchup). Shuri had one bad matchup, Thanos (46%). So then they nerf Thanos and not shuri? He also said their internal experts on Shuri were confident that 12 power red skull would be going too far. I just dont rly understand it seems like alien talk to me. It feels like they’re, for some reason, willing to die on the ship of “Shuri is fine and does not need a nerf” and I am flabbergasted by it. There wasn’t a single buff in this round of balance updates. They just did sensible nerds to big issues and then LEFT SHURI DECKS ALONE?
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Very excited about "tap" cards. Not having any cards that allow you to choose specific cards with effects has been very noticable. Having things like destroy or discard effects that let you select which card is getting removed will be very strong.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Hey, our first "tap" card. I guess that answers how the possible data-mined Kitty Pryde might work? (Since i believe she is also going to be a "tap to activate" type of card?) I wonder what 'tap' here actually means. Is it just 'tap' whenever so you can do it multiple times? Or is it 'tap' like in MtG where you can do it once and then it's done? Also interesting that it's ongoing which means you can turn it off. Or steal it.
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I don't like the new "beep" sound when clicking on someone's profile or an emote. Big nerf!
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Am I understanding that Iron Lad card correctly to mean that it copies the ability of the next card in your deck, whether it's ongoing on on reveal or whatever?
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Yes. It copies the text, not the "ongoing" or "on reveal" ability. I'll add to the general bewilderment as to what Second Dinner is doing with balance. My confusion is in two parts. They tackled the high end cards in an inconsistent way. They acknowledge Shuri and Thanos are a problem. They nerfed Thanos three ways including a way that agree hurts non-problematic archetypes instead of an obvious solution that might require some coding time (namely that the stones, which are always in a Thanos deck, are "added" to a Thanos deck). Second, and more disappointingly, they didn't acknowledge the piles of cards that see limited play because they're not good. Maybe Punisher needs an extra power. Medusa needs an extra power or to be a one cost, etc. Leader really stinks after they nerfed him months ago, maybe take another look? Maneck fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Mar 21, 2023 |
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Mons Hubris posted:Am I understanding that Iron Lad card correctly to mean that it copies the ability of the next card in your deck, whether it's ongoing on on reveal or whatever? Yeah, I expect him to work the same way as Morph.
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Youremother posted:I wonder, will High Evolutionary have synergy with Patriot or will say drawing him from X Mansion kill you game plan? HE doesn't work with Patriot and is basically a vanilla 4/7 if he doesn't start in your deck. His datamined text means his ability only works if he starts in your deck, ala Thanos. AloePieceOfShit fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Mar 21, 2023 |
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Youremother posted:I wonder, will High Evolutionary have synergy with Patriot or will say drawing him from X Mansion kill you game plan? It's a start of game effect so it shouldn't do anything if he's randomly generated
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AloePieceOfShit posted:HE doesn't work with Patriot and is basically a vanilla 4/7 if he doesn't start in your deck. His datamined text means his ability only works if he starts in your deck, ala Thanos. Finally Quicksilver's time to shine!
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WaffleZombie posted:That Taskmaster nerf really sucks. I basically used him as a counter to Shang-Chi in my Big Beefy Boyz decks, and now that's loving gone. It was always kind of poo poo that Taskmaster could copy a dead card but Mystique couldn't copy one hit by Enchantress. The fact that Mystique could also copy a dead card was a moot point.
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Also my Level 40 Season Pass mystery card was pixel Blue Marvel.
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Yeah if you have Shuri pinned get her, Shuri/Zero is uncontestedly the best deck in the game.
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cirus posted:Finally Quicksilver's time to shine! Quicksilver has an ability.
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What the gently caress are these nerfs lol. Shuri really untouched is hilarious
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Jedit posted:Quicksilver has an ability. I meant if they only work from your deck then Quicksilver increases the odds they start in deck
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No Wave posted:One of the devs was doing some twitter Q&A today. He said Thanos had one bad matchup, some sera killmonger thing (48% matchup). Shuri had one bad matchup, Thanos (46%). So then they nerf Thanos and not shuri? He also said their internal experts on Shuri were confident that 12 power red skull would be going too far. I just dont rly understand it seems like alien talk to me. Sandwolf posted:It feels like they’re, for some reason, willing to die on the ship of “Shuri is fine and does not need a nerf” and I am flabbergasted by it. There wasn’t a single buff in this round of balance updates. They just did sensible nerds to big issues and then LEFT SHURI DECKS ALONE? what? like half of the changes here were directly aimed at Shuri decks Shuri isn't running a crazy value engine or shutting down your opponents game plan, it was just an accumulation of some of the strongest cards in the game + had the potential to just create too much power for other decks to beat with its good hands, so all these changes chip away at it by making it less consistent/more prone to opposing interaction/less overwhelming in the amount of power generated generating a lot of power is something other decks do well, just not as well, you don't necessarily need drastic changes to bring Shuri down to a range where other things can compete these things also work in combination - i.e. the Red Skull change doesn't really nerf it in isolation, but that's fine, Shuri->Red Skull for effective 22 power (24 with shuri) to likely win a single lane isn't actually that unreasonable (compare to stuff you can do with Dracula, Devil Dinosaur/Mystique, etc.), where it gets broken is with Taskmaster who then adds +30 power to a different lane, this cuts that line down by 4 power and makes it more vulnerable to disruption (via shang, aeroing the red skull into fisk tower, etc.), which significantly increases the chances other decks can compete this is exacerbated by the she-hulk and aero changes also cut down on the decks' power with less ideal hands (and with cards that had been identified as being a bit strong even in other circumstances) all of this might very well not be enough (I think it is likely shuri zero is still a top deck), but it's clearly an effort at reigning the dominant decks in without destroying them - I think it's reasonable to let the meta fall out a bit before crying that the nerfs weren't sufficient e: I am excited for High Evolutionary, strength aside it'll be fun to have something else to do with the vanilla cards beyond Patriot, especially some of the ones that don't usually see play even there LGD fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Mar 21, 2023 |
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Now, instead of having to beat 30+ power in two lanes, you need to beat 26ish+ power in two lanes. Bravo
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Zodack posted:Now, instead of having to beat 30+ power in two lanes, you need to beat 26ish+ power in two lanes. Bravo And one lane will have Armor, the other Cosmo, so no Shang-Chi, either.
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Spent 9000 tokens upon the update. Not a single variant, Steampunk or otherwise. I DID pull Sauron so that just made my Shuri Zero plays much better! Was about to spend 3k on him. Also got Negasonic Teenage Warhead in the shop due to the new card feature. Should I buy? Got 13k tokens and seems like a decent tech card for control decks.
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LGD posted:what? like half of the changes here were directly aimed at Shuri decks It's almost like the real problem with the deck is the 4 drop that can give up to
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DrBouvenstein posted:And one lane will have Armor, the other Cosmo, so no Shang-Chi, either. That's the rub I think - Taskmaster's change really doesn't actually matter a whole lot when it comes down to it, because Skull or any other buffed card is going to sit behind a wall you can't easily remove. Enchantress does it (half the time), but at this point, how many more cards do we need to slot to deal with the deck? Aero, Shang Chi, one more? Two more? I realize you gotta tech if you want to ladder, but I would prefer to play a deck that is more fun, less tech pile
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Waffleopolis posted:Spent 9000 tokens upon the update. Not a single variant, Steampunk or otherwise. 9000 tokens? Do you mean credits? I opened 36 boxes (pool 3 complete so no reason to open them earlier), and I got: -Shanna -Stature -4 of the 5 steampunk variants (just missing the Cerebro one) Shanna and Stature were in the same 40-box group so that's a thing that can happen apparently. I did not know that. All in all, not opening boxes until you have a very good reason to do open them (like this variant rush, if you want the variants), has turned out to be a great idea. A++ would not open boxes again.
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