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skooma512 posted:The US military has been at war for the last generation, so it has that much going for it. I just started reading a book about this. The lowest point of the British Army in the Great War, in terms of deserting and surrendering to the enemy at a pretty wild 8:1 compared to KIA, was when the professional army that had been on colonial adventures met the German army from August-November 1914. It had the highest rate of self inflicted injuries too, even among officers. I was reading an unrelated book about British Staff Officers and a bunch of them had nervous breakdowns or shot themselves in the first few weeks of the war during the retreat from Mons because they could not handle what actual war was like, despite having 15, 20 year careers in the army.
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Barrel Cactaur posted:Interesting way to write Chinese economy dies as it no longer trades finished goods for raw materials, food, and medicine. Please recall Russia is currently being fought off with essentially spares. Russian stability has been based on a carefully structured prison house of nations being run by the biggest gang. China has based it on economic prosperity. Crashing Russias raw materials export market was never going to stop them, because someone will always take the deal. But China is much more vulnerable. Military needs just can't take up the slack, or provide the food in short order. Their poor agricultural disease control makes this extra fragile. I hate to be the one to tell you this, but America will always lose a conventional war against China.
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Mar 22, 2023 21:44
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I hope Sacks chokes on a pretzel. Subintelligent parasite. https://twitter.com/GordonJohnson19/status/1638641297203539968
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Mar 22, 2023 21:45
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Hubbert posted:I hate to be the one to tell you this, but America will always lose a war
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Mar 22, 2023 21:45
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https://twitter.com/GrahamB47/status/1638638434725302272
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Mar 22, 2023 21:47
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who’s kendra lust
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Mar 22, 2023 21:49
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im pretty sure the american military higher-ups know full well a war with china would be insane at least some of them im sure theres plenty of imbeciles just like every other rotted sector
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Mar 22, 2023 21:51
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Consummate Professional posted:who’s kendra lust what do you think a woman with the showbiz surname "lust" does
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Mar 22, 2023 21:54
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Consummate Professional posted:who’s kendra lust I DONT KNOW FIRST IVE HEARD OF HER
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Mar 22, 2023 21:55
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America has lsot the Mandate of Heaven.
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Mar 22, 2023 21:56
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HallelujahLee posted:im pretty sure the american military higher-ups know full well a war with china would be insane at least some of them im sure theres plenty of imbeciles just like every other rotted sector Twas always thus. The Soviets never looked like they could take Europe and the missile gap was overblown, but that doesn't make the budgets bigger. The ideal scenario for the Pentagon would be another cold war, they can use the boogeyman of the Reds to pad budgets and justify all kinds of poo poo without ever needing to do anything.
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Mar 22, 2023 21:56
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Consummate Professional posted:who’s kendra lust Michele Mason
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HallelujahLee posted:im pretty sure the american military higher-ups know full well a war with china would be insane at least some of them im sure theres plenty of imbeciles just like every other rotted sector This is why we love Taiwan. Nice and easy cold/indirect war
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Mar 22, 2023 21:56
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yeah continuing their grift is the number one objective something like 70% of the military budget is unaccounted for
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Mar 22, 2023 21:57
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Woke Mind Virus posted:this guy gets off on making number go up and down while he talks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd_zs8AwoTQ
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Mar 22, 2023 21:58
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Two so utterly intertwined economies going to war seems dumb as poo poo for all involved.
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Mar 22, 2023 21:59
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Yudo posted:war seems dumb as poo poo for all involved.
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Mar 22, 2023 22:01
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Morbus posted:I DONT KNOW FIRST IVE HEARD OF HER
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Mar 22, 2023 22:03
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Okay, point taken. How about "more dumb than usual, which is also really dumb."
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Mar 22, 2023 22:05
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Hirsute posted:what do you think a woman with the showbiz surname "lust" does cooking channel
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Mar 22, 2023 22:09
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Yudo posted:Two so utterly intertwined economies going to war seems dumb as poo poo for all involved. Interdependence didn't prevent WWI from happening. I don't think it ever prevents a war. Generally, wars usually do not happen when the countries involved are acting intelligently, right? it's a dumb way to solve problems.
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Mar 22, 2023 22:09
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HallelujahLee posted:im pretty sure the american military higher-ups know full well a war with china would be insane at least some of them im sure theres plenty of imbeciles just like every other rotted sector There's a list of books about it, but I haven't read any because boats are dumb. No links because I'm not hunting them all down: War Transformed: The Future of Twenty-First-Century Great Power Competition and Conflict Strategy Shelved: The Collapse of Cold War Naval Strategic Planning China as a Twenty-First-Century Naval Power: Theory, Practice, and Implications Great Powers, Grand Strategies: The New Game in the South China Sea Red Star over the Pacific Anatomy of Failure: Why America Loses Every War it Starts China’s Quest for Great Power: Ships, Oil, and Foreign Policy Chinese Grand Strategy and Maritime Power Southeast Asia and the Rise of Chinese and Indian Naval Power: Between Rising Naval Powers Chinese Naval Strategy in the 21st Century: The Turn to Mahan The Great Wall at Sea: China's Navy in the Twenty-First Century Navies in Multipolar Worlds: From the Age of Sail to the Present The premise seems to be: They realize the US is kind of hosed longterm but they figure they can use the ships they already have before then. Doesn't seem to be the best plan to me, but I'm not trying to defend maritime hegemony because I went to Georgetown and talk about Athens all the time.
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Mar 22, 2023 22:10
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now Akon can finally go to jail for real
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Mar 22, 2023 22:10
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treasury secretaries should be towering in height. Never again will our economy be managed by such a small spirit
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Mar 22, 2023 22:13
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Barrel Cactaur posted:Additionally they don't have uncontested control of the SCS like the US has uncontested control of the East Pacific and Atlantic seaboard. The US can rebuild it's conventional navy far out of reach, while China can't prevent attacks from being staged from the whole region, a region it has not made an effort to be a good neighbor as someone involved with the building of the US’ conventional Navy, I assure you that we can’t build or rebuild it quickly
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Mar 22, 2023 22:15
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Q-sixtysix posted:as someone involved with the building of the US’ conventional Navy, I assure you that we can’t build or rebuild it quickly there's an unconventional one?
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Mar 22, 2023 22:16
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Palladium posted:there's an unconventional one? The beautiful boaters.
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Mar 22, 2023 22:17
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Q-sixtysix posted:as someone involved with the building of the US’ conventional Navy, I assure you that we can’t build or rebuild it quickly Worth reminding people that it takes years to build a single warship no matter how many you can queue up in a turn in grand strategy games We had like half a decade to build ships for world war 2; we recovered from Pearl harbor because those ships were already being built.
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Mar 22, 2023 22:18
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Hitler's Navy wasn't supposed to be complete until 1948.
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Mar 22, 2023 22:18
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Barrel Cactaur posted:Interesting way to write Chinese economy dies as it no longer trades finished goods for raw materials, food, and medicine. Please recall Russia is currently being fought off with essentially spares. Russian stability has been based on a carefully structured prison house of nations being run by the biggest gang. China has based it on economic prosperity. Crashing Russias raw materials export market was never going to stop them, because someone will always take the deal. But China is much more vulnerable. Military needs just can't take up the slack, or provide the food in short order. Their poor agricultural disease control makes this extra fragile. The US won't last 72hrs in a real war without going to the nukes and will lose anyways
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Mar 22, 2023 22:18
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China should upgrade BRICS into a mutual defense pact and start building supply depots on the coast of Brazil. Get Cuba in on it too so they've got a supply line going to the eastern US coast.
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Mar 22, 2023 22:19
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the RIC part is pretty close to that if I means Iran
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Mar 22, 2023 22:19
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Surely privatizing the yards had helped because the private sector is always more efficient and innovative than big government?
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Mar 22, 2023 22:19
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the only rapper who needs to eat poo poo for this is souljaboy, fuckin ron popeil fradulent rear end motherfucker
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Mar 22, 2023 22:22
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Frosted Flake posted:Surely privatizing the yards had helped because the private sector is always more efficient and innovative than big government? my favorite neolib story is singapore privatizing public transport to wholly government-owned corpos AND it still loving sucked in the 2010s before renationalization. Because they were too busy playing RE landlords instead of maintenance and expansion
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Mar 22, 2023 22:22
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banks falling apart but sure lets spend another few pages on thucydides trap
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Mar 22, 2023 22:23
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Palladium posted:there's an unconventional one? I was using the same term that I quoted, is all
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Mar 22, 2023 22:25
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Mirthless posted:Worth reminding people that it takes years to build a single warship no matter how many you can queue up in a turn in grand strategy games and there's only like what, half the global shipbuilding capacity is in china?
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Mar 22, 2023 22:26
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Frosted Flake posted:Surely privatizing the yards had helped because the private sector is always more efficient and innovative than big government? Like supplying lower quality steel to the Navy. https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/former-lab-director-sentenced-prison-falsifying-results-steel-testing-parts-navy-subs One would consider this an act of treason, but one of would be wrong. I also highly doubt their fall-lady acted alone, but hopefully Bradken is hooking her up.
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hell yeah lol https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1638652833141604354
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