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the problem is that ironic sexism can still be unwelcoming, especially when it can be construed as dismissive or making light of a real problem what nooner should’ve done is gone one level deeper, to ironic ironic sexism i believe that is still considered in good taste edit: or maybe it was ironic irony all along  CaptainSarcastic posted:Goddamnit, I guess I will explain the joke further. I took it as Nooner parodying the people who were telling the victims to suck it up, just with a more antique Internet misogyny thing as hyperbole. Bad Purchase fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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Drone_Fragger posted:Yeah, which was essentially what I said. Teen witch was blamed at first but eventually people found it wasn't her. Thread should of stopped there, because frankly the claims made in the OP weren't true. Teen Witch hadn't edited the post as everyone had claimed, someone else had, and the thread then descended into people tearing into her post history to prove how cringe she was, rather than any kind of useful debate on, as you say, should edits to posts be visible. It was a garbage fire. which claim in the op wasnt true  afte r this i wrongly presumed it was tw as it was in her thread and it was a post she had probated adn the edited message related to the probation reason also, i dont think it was an uncharitable assumption and bcos it doesnt show which mod has edited a post all anyone without admin access can do is go off of whats infront of them. after an admin checked and said it wasnt her i assumed it was pope corcky whatever. you can check what i said after ath cleared up that it wasnt tw who did it if you like. i do not care who had edited the post, i care that it had been edited bizarrely by some insane person. and again i requested they make edits show exactly who edited a post, so such a misunderstanding wouldnt happen in the future and was told it wouldnt happen. seems stupid to me lol
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None of that is feedback so take it to PMs
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ill feedback your rear end if you dont watch your tone (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Rust Martialis posted:Obviously it was a joke (I assume), but really are "jokes" about how (female) abuse victims should try "posting tits" to earn acceptance from their abusers not way over the line nowadays? Goddamnit, I guess I will explain the joke further. I took it as Nooner parodying the people who were telling the victims to suck it up, just with a more antique Internet misogyny thing as hyperbole.
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Honestly, showing who edits a post is a pretty fair ask imo. Maybe there’s some reason that I’m not thinking of but if a mod edits a post there should be a trail.
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:Honestly, showing who edits a post is a pretty fair ask imo. Maybe there’s some reason that I’m not thinking of but if a mod edits a post there should be a trail. i think the admins mentioned there is an admin level trail, or maybe mod level, i don't remember which it was. admins can check who edited posts at least
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Rust Martialis posted:Obviously it was a joke (I assume), but really are "jokes" about how (female) abuse victims should try "posting tits" to earn acceptance from their abusers not way over the line nowadays? There are? Where?
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can mods and admins see when i edit my post within the timer? please tell me they can’t see that
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Drone_Fragger posted:Yeah, which was essentially what I said. Teen witch was blamed at first but eventually people found it wasn't her. Thread should of stopped there, because frankly the claims made in the OP weren't true. Teen Witch hadn't edited the post as everyone had claimed, someone else had, and the thread then descended into people tearing into her post history to prove how cringe she was, rather than any kind of useful debate on, as you say, should edits to posts be visible. It was a garbage fire. it was her “ post history” from like the last month in the thread she IK’d, badly, and was directly relevant to the discussion happening
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Goddamnit, I guess I will explain the joke further. I took it as Nooner parodying the people who were telling the victims to suck it up, just with a more antique Internet misogyny thing as hyperbole. If it makes a difference (not sure it does?) I was actually referring to the followup joke to nooner's about how posting tits was the way to success and acceptance, but the argument applies to nooner making jokes about abuse victims should post tits to make their abusers like them seems a little more than you made it out to be, but obviously opinions vary. Not my call at the end of day!
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SpiritOfLenin posted:i think the admins mentioned there is an admin level trail, or maybe mod level, i don't remember which it was. admins can check who edited posts at least Yeah, I think admins can see a post's edit history. In other circumstances there is usually a record, like notes on how a report was handled. Some stuff I don't think to sign, like if I'm adding spoiler tags or something like that - those I often just mark with a "Mod edit:" in the post I am editing. That stuff is recorded in the report notes, though. Anything edited out also gets added to the report notes for future reference.
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Rust Martialis posted:If it makes a difference (not sure it does?) I was actually referring to the followup joke to nooner's about how posting tits was the way to success and acceptance, but the argument applies to nooner making jokes about abuse victims should post tits to make their abusers like them seems a little more than you made it out to be, but obviously opinions vary. It's one of those things that is a judgement call, and I freely admit I could be wrong. If I thought Nooner was actually being callous or flippant with it I would have hit him with a sixer, but I honestly think his intent was good there. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but I'm also kind of working from an assumption this thread has slightly looser rules in some ways in order to be able to discuss things.
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:Honestly, showing who edits a post is a pretty fair ask imo. Maybe there’s some reason that I’m not thinking of but if a mod edits a post there should be a trail. Some oval office hosed around with this message at 3:52 PM on Mar 23rd, 2023
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nooner it would be really funny if you drove by with another whopper of a sexist joke after all that discussion imo of course
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Rockman Reserve posted:it was her “ post history” from like the last month in the thread she IK’d, badly, and was directly relevant to the discussion happening No one in the thread had a problem AFAIK until a few specific posters showed up who never otherwise post in that thread and then a SAD thread mysteriously appeared 
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Dixville posted:It all comes back to the load bearing slurs Lol
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CaptainSarcastic posted:It's one of those things that is a judgement call, and I freely admit I could be wrong. If I thought Nooner was actually being callous or flippant with it I would have hit him with a sixer, but I honestly think his intent was good there. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but I'm also kind of working from an assumption this thread has slightly looser rules in some ways in order to be able to discuss things. Oh, I'm not meaning to impugn your good faith, I just don't personally see it that way. If I'm wrong, apologies to Nooner, but I obviously I've been increasingly upset about the free passes (or wrist slaps) I see handed out for misogynistic jokes or outright insults, so maybe I'm predisposed to feel that way, and am being unfair to Nooner.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:None of that is feedback so take it to PMs my feedback: you get a kiss
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Sid Vicious posted:my feedback: you get a kiss 
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Rust has his own history of being lovely towards women he disagrees with especially trans women which is why his thread got gassed and remade without him to let some women speak for themselves. The reason neither thread lasted was because nobody had any actual examples of misogyny going unpunished. Since this thread is supposed to be about GBS feedback I think this guy has a good idea on how to handle mega threads to make them more newbie friendly: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4027765&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:No one in the thread had a problem AFAIK until a few specific posters showed up who never otherwise post in that thread and then a SAD thread mysteriously appeared people definitely had a problem with the thread but understandably did not complain about it in her weird fiefdom hth
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Could someone please tell me who this is in my avatar because I don't get it. Rust looking at you here buddy
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some plague rats posted:Could someone please tell me who this is in my avatar because I don't get it. Rust looking at you here buddy This is the GBS feedback thread not that "what's this avatar" thread please find somewhere else to ask Mods, do the thing
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some plague rats posted:Could someone please tell me who this is in my avatar because I don't get it. Rust looking at you here buddy lmfao. someone's putting you in your goddamn place
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Smugworth posted:This is the GBS feedback thread not that "what's this avatar" thread please find somewhere else to ask But Smugworth, aren't... aren't you a mod?!
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Drone_Fragger posted:But Smugworth, aren't... aren't you a mod?! Mod-elect
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Smugworth posted:This is the GBS feedback thread not that "what's this avatar" thread please find somewhere else to ask It's all good, someone in the saga thread told me. Please disregard my last post
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Lol they were so angry they didn't notice they typed love an extra time. This thread owns
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Dixville posted:Lol they were so angry they didn't notice they typed love an extra time. This thread owns lol it's the little details that let you know someone was absolutely steaming
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some plague rats posted:It's all good, someone in the saga thread told me. Please disregard my last post Wasn't the new rule for Sagas to not talk about current drama in Sagas?
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Tai posted:Wasn't the new rule for Sagas to not talk about current drama in Sagas? Highly recommend against backseat modding or JAQing off in this thread
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Tai posted:Wasn't the new rule for Sagas to not talk about current drama in Sagas? Common misconception! The Sagas thread is primarily a cross-forums chat thread, and as such the regulars asking things like "woah what's with the av" of each other is perfectly acceptable according the thread remit. But it's not a GBS thread, so let's move on. Just wanted to clear that up.
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Tai posted:Wasn't the new rule for Sagas to not talk about current drama in Sagas? This isn't the Sagas thread nor is it for litigating that.
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There is no reason for that bitch to be in here, she never has anything good to say about GBS and she always brags about how she never reads it. They threadbanned you and harassed you in the saga thread, show a little spine Seth Again I'll take my probe, don't care busy irl
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some plague rats posted:Could someone please tell me who this is in my avatar because I don't get it. Rust looking at you here buddy I don't waste money on buying people avatars or redtexts anymore, sorry. I got cured of that back when some rich CSPAM poster (I assumed Judakael at the time but who knows?) used to redtext tons of people, me included. 2020 or so? I did buy Video Games an avatar in the Eve thread, but told them about it at the time, and wanted to change CommieGIR's but they asked me not to. So I didn't. Det var ikke mig, desværre. I sure get nominated for it often enough, like Harold asked if I'd been the financial deep-pockets who did all the avatars around his meltdown. Nope. (Why anyone would give Jeff so much money for such a transient thing is beyond me.) Nor was whatever hosed up avatar I heard Boba got my doing. Ed: this is uhhhh, feedback to a post in GBS Ed2: turned avatars on, looked at whoever that is, no idea who it is sorry, avatars off again now Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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Cthulu Carl posted:And punishing not just the ones perceived as trolls, but the ones going for the bait too. I'm not totally against this but I don't think being taken in by a troll is as bad as a troll making GBS threads up an otherwise acceptable thread. From what I've observed lately people who aren't trolling are much more likely to behave themselves following a non-probe "knock it off" and certainly following a sixer. If people responding to trolls are getting probed and the trolls aren't, that will drive people absolutely up the wall, justifiably. (and to be clear, places where it's allowed, whatever, I'm not suggesting a sitewide thing.) it's risky to introduce, I guess is what I'm trying to say. perceived unfairness is really bad for the community and we've already had situations where consistent local enforcement looked like inconsistent enforcement to people coming in from outside.
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Props to Shrek for actually engaging with the feedback posts, instead of ignoring them and engaging with the white-noise shits like the admins typically do. some plague rats posted:Could someone please tell me who this is in my avatar because I don't get it. Rust looking at you here buddy some plague rats posted:It's all good, someone in the saga thread told me. Please disregard my last post some plague rats posted:lol it's the little details that let you know someone was absolutely steaming Just flooding the zone with poo poo. The tried-and-true method that the mods should probably develop a game plan on how to handle.
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Bad Purchase posted:nooner it would be really funny if you drove by with another whopper of a sexist joke after all that discussion hehm, let me tell you how women be about ... shopping 
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