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Stultus Maximus posted:US tech companies can choose to tell the government to pound sand. Chinese companies cannot tell the Chinese government the same. It's 2023 and this level of naivete still exists in the wild. Absolutely amazing.
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That Works posted:Sell it to US companies Were these US companies not able to pay up to get this information from the 70 other entities that have the same stuff?
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fknlo posted:Were these US companies not able to pay up to get this information from the 70 other entities that have the same stuff? Hey don't get mad at me I just put it on the powerpoint slide that we pitched to a dozen excited bitcoin backed VC's who needed to dump funds somewhere. (e: I think we just described about half of the current US financial system or something)
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Grip it and rip it posted:lol yeah right Which part do you disagree with? Apple has explicitly told the FBI to get lost. Netflix has refused to provide customer information to the Canadian government. Do Chinese companies have that ability?
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fknlo posted:What exactly are they doing with the data? They already have all my information since I was a government employee during a certain data breach. What exactly are they going to do with my data that isn't already being done with my data by US companies? No no, not "your" data, I meant "the" data in a general sense. Just like our own data collection, they likely get a ton of poo poo on everyone for whenever they need it or when they're actively looking. My personal naive differentiation is that crossing the American government will get your American company killed, crossing the Russian government will get your Russian company stolen as you mysteriously fall out a window, and China will make your Chinese company what Chinese company? Who? Who is that person? What company? Sorry, that person and company never existed according to our records.
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facialimpediment posted:I may have news for you about what China uses the data to do. Did I miss something, because to my knowledge China is not running an international drone program to execute people that uses data from social media as an input. Stultus Maximus posted:US tech companies can choose to tell the government to pound sand. Chinese companies cannot tell the Chinese government the same. Just adding another lol to this comment. Here's what happens to US companies that don't cooperate: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/qwest-ceo-nsa-punished-qwest-refusing-participate-illegal-surveillance-pre-9-11
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Zamujasa posted:so jaded my first thought is "now that i've worked 4 hours in their shoes i am qualified to say their current pay and benefits level is adequate and will not be improved and perhaps are even too generous" Seems like when Bezos showed up for a few minutes at an Amazon warehouse to “personally follow up on worker safety concerns,” imagining if one peasant unexpectedly approached to shake his hand it would be like the opening montage of Dawn of the Dead remake with the Special Forces team on the White House lawn.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Which part do you disagree with? Apple has explicitly told the FBI to get lost. Netflix has refused to provide customer information to the Canadian government. Do Chinese companies have that ability? Those are two examples, not "US companies" generally, and if you don't think US intelligence has figured out a way to get at Apple server data I have a bridge to sell you. I believe the issue here that TikTok presents a security threat because the people that use it are stupid and run it on work phones / at work / etc, but the idea that the USA behaves fundamentally differently with respect to personal data than china is true only in the sense that the US puts all that info into the marketplace and in China the government largely keeps it for themselves and the companies they deign to share it with. Neither country respects personal information or does much to safeguard it. This doesn't even go into what Apple allows the chinese government to do with apple user data in china. They're not some bastion of personal privacy rights - they're effective marketers who know which side their bread is buttered and acts accordingly Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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Mar 23, 2023 19:05
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Fun bit in the J6 trials - the groyper that tried to pull a "i'm just a smol bean" defense found it didn't work so well https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1638944607760162828?t=the_t_UCMZS7mn_cQS-S3Q&s=19 still remains weird when weirdo online poo poo bleeds over into real life and imagine being obsessed with nick fuentes
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Mar 23, 2023 19:19
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maffew buildings posted:It's time for important topics that have been getting ignored but are definitely still pressing, like evaluating which Muppets gently caress. Fozzy Bear definitely cleans up, I feel like that's just an obvious one, though Statler and Waldorf absolutely slayed in their youth and I imagine they still charm someone to their respective homes once in a while.
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Mar 23, 2023 19:24
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when china does it, that's the government doing it, and that's bad but when the us does it, that's private corporations that are doing it, and that's good and anyone who thinks the us government doesn't already have its fingers in pretty much every possible pie is pretty naïve. we have  for a reason
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Mar 23, 2023 19:31
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McNally posted:They were not reproducing asexually. They were changing sex from female to male and then loving. Waiting for this post to turn up as an exhibit in a request to ban Jurassic Park from Florida libraries
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Mar 23, 2023 19:34
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That does make me wonder, now; given Florida's increasingly strict don't-say-gay bill, are we going to see gender and sexuality pamphlets air-dropped around schools? What kind of recourse would FL have against someone setting up shop outside a high school offering info? I mean I know there's something, but I'm curious.
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Mar 23, 2023 19:37
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facialimpediment posted:Fun bit in the J6 trials - the groyper that tried to pull a "i'm just a smol bean" defense found it didn't work so well I had to Google "groyper". I feel dirty now.
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Midjack posted:Statler and Waldorf absolutely slayed in their youth and I imagine they still charm someone to their respective homes once in a while. Statler at least is canonically bi. https://twitter.com/RohitaKadambi/status/1372363271131574280
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Even the straightest of male muppet has a man’s forearm up their rear end, so they’re all bi to start with.
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Midjack posted:Statler and Waldorf absolutely slayed in their youth and I imagine they still charm someone to their respective homes once in a while. Why can’t Miss Piggy count to 70? Because at 69 she gets a frog in her throat
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windshipper posted:Why can’t Miss Piggy count to 70? i guess the part im still not clear on is when miss piggys giving you a blow job are you getting a blow job from miss piggy or are you getting a hand job from frank oz
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Another crypto dork got got: https://twitter.com/ahcastor/status/1638993240128114688
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Sexual Lorax posted:i guess the part im still not clear on is when miss piggys giving you a blow job are you getting a blow job from miss piggy or are you getting a hand job from frank oz Yes
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ASAPI posted:I had to Google "groyper". See if you can clear your search history on that one. It's pretty far down the right wing radicalization funnel and by the time you get to that one the algorithm is going to be offering you some really nasty poo poo.
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bird food bathtub posted:See if you can clear your search history on that one. It's pretty far down the right wing radicalization funnel and by the time you get to that one the algorithm is going to be offering you some really nasty poo poo. I watched one video of air to air refueling and I got non stop "Ben Shapiro owns woke liberals with FACTS!" Recommendations
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Sacrist65 posted:I watched one video of air to air refueling and I got non stop "Ben Shapiro owns woke liberals with FACTS!" Since I see this mentioned so much, you can do a lot to curb it if you turn off Google's targetted advertising as much as possible on your account. This is the current nominal link https://myaccount.google.com/data-and-privacy They go through periods of making it easier or harder to find, because Google.
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Stultus Maximus posted:US tech companies can choose to tell the government to pound sand. Chinese companies cannot tell the Chinese government the same. With all due respect I don’t believe you are correct about this. I am quite certain you are not.
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You may have heard of times that companies have resisted government requests/instructions but you haven't heard of all the times they acquiesced.
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Zamujasa posted:That does make me wonder, now; given Florida's increasingly strict don't-say-gay bill, are we going to see gender and sexuality pamphlets air-dropped around schools? If you do that, some “lone wolf” will commit terrorism against you.
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bird food bathtub posted:See if you can clear your search history on that one. It's pretty far down the right wing radicalization funnel and by the time you get to that one the algorithm is going to be offering you some really nasty poo poo. I logged out and used an incognito tab. That seems to "poison" my feed the least.
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Serjeant Buzfuz posted:You may have heard of times that companies have resisted government requests/instructions but you haven't heard of all the times they acquiesced. That's what "choose" means.
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Just LOL that "what about AMERICA'S exploitation of tech cos." is still used as a retort to China's exploitation of the same. It's 2023—revisionist authoritarian powers are loving with their neighbors and undermining democracies, but some still can't let a criticism against them get by without empty equivocation. America bad and should be better, thanks. Let's just please not handwave others' abuses.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Just LOL that "what about AMERICA'S exploitation of tech cos." is still used as a retort to China's exploitation of the same. It's 2023—revisionist authoritarian powers are loving with their neighbors and undermining democracies, but some still can't let a criticism against them get by without empty equivocation. Care to quote any handwaves or are you just yelling at voices in your head?
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Serjeant Buzfuz posted:You may have heard of times that companies have resisted government requests/instructions but you haven't heard of all the times they acquiesced. FISA court being all secretive and poo poo doesn't exactly help
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CainFortea posted:Care to quote any handwaves or are you just yelling at voices in your head? i think we've all seen it often enough to say yeah that's a thing that happens
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stealie72 posted:Real "the worst person you know made a good point" vibe. gently caress TikTok, but gently caress Rob Latta "The Jyneez COMMUNIST PARTY" poo poo. Hey, I live in his district be nice  Until last year's redistricting I lived in Jim Jordan's district, it could be worse 
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Basticle posted:Hey, I live in his district be nice
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Arrath posted:FISA court being all secretive and poo poo doesn't exactly help You gotta be loving kidding me, right?
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Cugel the Clever posted:Just LOL that "what about AMERICA'S exploitation of tech cos." is still used as a retort to China's exploitation of the same. It's 2023—revisionist authoritarian powers are loving with their neighbors and undermining democracies, but some still can't let a criticism against them get by without empty equivocation. Did congress take American tech companies to task for their alleged lack of security practices and I just missed it? They literally made a big show of "CHINA STEALING R DATA". Acknowledging that they're hypocrites isn't handwaving or equivocation.
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Grip it and rip it posted:Did congress take American tech companies to task for their alleged lack of security practices and I just missed it? ... Yes? https://www.npr.org/2021/03/25/980510388/facebook-twitter-google-ceos-testify-before-congress-4-things-to-know https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/30/technology/facebook-senate-hearing.html
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:You gotta be loving kidding me, right? Well, no, but obviously I'm misremembering some facts. Please by all means, correct me. I'd rather have it right next time!
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bulletsponge13 posted:I disagree. There are people who are beyond rehabilitation- people who can't be fixed, and will continue to do their heinous actions upon release. I think it's more humane to execute them than it is to keep them locked up for the rest of their lives. Even in countries with no death penalty and 20 year maximum prison sentences, people deemed sufficiently predatory or otherwise incapable of existing in society don't ever get out. They end up hospitalized. It means people get a second chance and it does a ton to keep prisons from going completely batfuck insane from, basically, lifer culture and the effects of people living with zero hope of freedom. e: Hekk posted:Looks like everyone has picked their side and made their claims on why the death penalty should/should not continue. sorry, just saw this Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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Arrath posted:Well, no, but obviously I'm misremembering some facts. Please by all means, correct me. I'd rather have it right next time! Who do you think the targets of FISA warrants are? And why do you want their surveillance warrants to be anything close to open and public? Do you even know why we have the FISA courts? Do you think it was a G.W. Bush, Post 9/11 thing? Teddy Kennedy was it’s big humper and loving Jimmy Carter signed it into law. FISA is so we don’t have a COINTELPRO (Actually several loving amendments to the constitution and the constitution as originally written should prevent COINTELPRO type poo poo from happening but just like it’s some times “boops all crunch berries!” sometimes it’s “ooops all fascists!” with some of the key players in the USG. But I digress..) type poo poo happen again. Dude, it’s the brakes, not the gas, on mass surveillance and Intel fuckery. It ain’t perfect, and in 2001, much like 2016 we got the “ooops all fascists!” (Except for JON “BIG DICK NO APPENDIX “ ASHCROFT from a loving surgical recovery ward) It’s not an inherently bad system, in fact it takes a confluence of assholes, world and national events, and old school politics for it to go from something good to something bad (looking at you STELLAR WIND predecessors and successors. And the NSA broadly from 2001-2007) and this is true of 100% of all USG programs. You want to rail against the hosed Supreme Court, Legislative Bodies, and various Fed’s in the Executive’s purview. Now I won’t try to defend the court by the public numbers, and truthfully I don’t know if there are other non public numbers but my intuition tells there are. No idea where those fell but my guess is 99%+ approvals. So yeah, that’s not where I’m coming from. FISA, as chartered and originally authorized, was a good thing. Everything. And I mean everything, went to gently caress after 9/11. It’s gonna take time to unfuck these things, and I’m told progress has been made, but we 100% bypass FISA by using FIVEYES agreements. That’s an even larger tragedy than what Bush, Cheney, and Rehnquist and his goofy stripes did to FISA and it’s been a thing since the CSS was founded. Look up how long ago that was. gently caress all Intel, but we need them. (To stay in their SCIF’s and never try to be part of normal society again) LtCol J. Krusinski fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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