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Sudden Loud Noise posted:I think characters really disliking each other can work well if you have more than 3 players. D20: A Court of Fey and Flowers has characters that oppose each other, but that works because 1.) There are many other relationships that can have focus to balance out the contention. 2.) They're good at roleplaying games 3.) They are funny. fey and flowers is also a much lighter tone so "characters that oppose one another" means "hilarious prank involving fey magicks"
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Some stupid Find Greater Familiar errata: My party finally hit level 13 and I reminded the paladin that he can now summon a better mount, so looking at the list of available options the spell gives you, he chose a peryton. A peryton is medium, and the spell doesn't say anything about increasing it's size or making special considerations for medium creatures. So, he technically can't even ride on it
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Sockser posted:They talk about this in the wrap-up TTAZZ but I do not recall what the deal was Zooks did not think Amber would take it well. At all. Which still seems like something he should have made clear because I just assumed Clint forgot until Clint said that in TTAZ QuoProQuid posted:my mixed feelings toward travis aside, that's a little unfair because, as i recall, travis was open about devo being "a whiny rear end in a top hat" in character creation, in out of character moments in the podcast, and the TTAZs. there was even a moment in the game itself where Devo seemingly had an epiphany and started aspiring to be more level-headed and less impotently angry all the time. To be fair to Devo here, didn't Griffin kill his adopted mother who he had really complicated feelings about almost immediately after? That sort of thing does tend to derail self improvement. Maybe there should have been another arc in between so his regression was more clearly regression and not just not changing. I mean, I enjoyed Ethersea, but I've enjoyed most of every season. Well, maybe most is too strong a word for Amnesty and Graduation. Some. A large amount. Everything involving Duck, Fitzroy, and the Firbolg at least.
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QuoProQuid posted:so the dragon and the “weaver” are obviously the founder of Steeplechase frozen like Walt Disney whose consciousness is being used to sustain the theme park? Don't want to sleep op this because I love this theory and it feels like the kind of fun poo poo Justin's been doing with Steeplechase
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:I think characters really disliking each other can work well if you have more than 3 players. D20: A Court of Fey and Flowers has characters that oppose each other, but that works because 1.) There are many other relationships that can have focus to balance out the contention. 2.) They're good at roleplaying games 3.) They are funny. Dislike is a thing you can work through but outright hatred makes a game unpleasant to listen to. Rusty Quill Gaming had a player character exit the campaign because they realised there was no way for them to continue adventuring with one of the other PCs without it ending in one of them murdering the other, and it would just be unpleasant for everyone to listen to.
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Nerdietalk posted:Don't want to sleep op this because I love this theory and it feels like the kind of fun poo poo Justin's been doing with Steeplechase it's gotta be this. from like episode 1 I figured the endpoint for this concept has to be the equivalent of stealing Walt Disney's Head
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Captain France posted:Zooks did not think Amber would take it well. At all. I think Ethersea got derailed by a couple of these issues: 1)the party dynamic got hosed up due to character motivations that, while they made sense, were not fun to listen to. 2)When they made this setting, I was optimistic it was going to avoid the trappings of save the world stuff like prior arcs did. It felt more like "do jobs, overall lower stakes, whatever we end on should be a smaller crisis." Griffin couldn't resist, we got the plague and the giant worm and then the big portal poo poo and honestly starting at the plague is kinda where I wasnt digging it as much. 3)no seriously, you introduce their rival team and do absolutely nothing with em so you can fight disease and the church. The only thing I want more than 3 idiots going on adventures is 3 idiots running into their 3 also idiotic counterparts. What the gently caress There has not been an arc of TAZ that I have completely disliked. I've enjoyed all of em to an extent. But it's definitely frustrating to see the move from Amnesty to Graduation to Ethersea and there are some consistent issues between Griffin and Travis both. Honestly, I would have also been fine with Graduation just being contained to school poo poo. Nah, gotta save the entire world as we know it there too.
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i listened to an old episode of the Flophouse recently that aired during Ethersea so one of the maxfun ads on it was for Ethersea and the entire time Griffon was doing his serious voice talking about how their magicks caused an apocalypse that flooded the world i was just thinking about the original adventure zone ad with "I'M TAAKO THE WIZARD" and "I roll to charm new listeners! It's very effective."
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Shinjobi posted:I think Ethersea got derailed by a couple of these issues: The plague returning was literally random chance. Clint rolled a 1 on a d100 and that's what Griffin had in that slot. The finale stuff I don't know. I guess once they decided to end the story they felt they needed something big to go out on. For the other team... It feels like Griffin did build up a huge world with other stuff going on but he also allowed the players to drive a lot more and so a lot of it didn't get touched on. It's a tricky thing to balance on a game that is also a performance. I hope they do go back to that world one day. It does feel like there is more to explore.
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Ethersea had the best theme song other than the original TAZ.
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External Organs posted:Ethersea had the best theme song other than the original TAZ. it's very good but it is also a slightly modified version of "claire de lune"
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Stroop There It Is posted:Amnesty theme is still my favorite  Ethersea started very strong, I like all the mechanics Griffin came up with, and it's a shame it all fell to pieces.
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QuoProQuid posted:it's very good but it is also a slightly modified version of "claire de lune" Whoa, good thing no other songs are just variations on a famous melody
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I've been catching up on the last five or so episodes of Steeplechase while working on a house project and I have to say that I would like more Shlabethany appearances. What a great character.
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Bayham Badger posted:I've been catching up on the last five or so episodes of Steeplechase while working on a house project and I have to say that I would like more Shlabethany appearances. What a great character. Her, "appalled maintenance guy" and "Justin the man who lived his whole life at the hotel check in desk" are the standout NPCs
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Honestly, Dave Ballista is the only NPC who hasn't been amazing since they got to Ephemera. Not that Dave is bad, just that everyone else has been an absolute all-timer
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Honestly Ethersea (the DnD part, not the quiet year part) was discordant from the very beginning, and in fact before it started, as apparently Griffin let all three of the others create characters without ever informing them that: A) A significant part of the campaign would take place on submarines, including an entire submarine combat system, B) After the first adventure the party would be given their own submarine with no other crew members, and C) success in many encounters would hinge on the ability of one of their characters to pilot or repair their submarine. The end result was a team of submariners with ZERO experience doing anything with a submarine, and constantly running into the exact same problem of needing someone to repair the thing or take evaisive maneuvers and none of them knowing how to do that. It was especially insane that Griffin, at least for as long as I listened, never actually offered them a solution to this problem and was apparently content with constently listening to the other three struggle to explain how their character might be able to do repairs. Like, why would any of them (EDIT: the characters) agree to do this in the first place?
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Ariong posted:
This Urchin erasure will not stand
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El Jeffe posted:This Urchin erasure will not stand It's very possible that Griffin actually let Urchin be a part of the crew after I stopped listening to that arc, but for the part I listened to he totally stonewalled them anytime they tried to get him to do something.
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Don't forget his buddy Dylan
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Ariong posted:It's very possible that Griffin actually let Urchin be a part of the crew after I stopped listening to that arc, but for the part I listened to he totally stonewalled them anytime they tried to get him to do something. Yeah at the same time he basically 1. Added Urchin 2. Stopped asking them to do any actual stuff with the ship If I'm remembering correctly
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I feel like asking your D&D heroes to rise to the challenge of an unfamiliar environment (where the rolls scaled on their existing stats and which they were very much briefed on beforehand) is not a big deal and is really just totally normal for the genre. And they did, right? Amber did repairs and Devo did piloting stuff and Zoox fired weapons. Like, they had a whole thing about "ship combat will be important and you will have a ship" in the pregame stuff, it was the opposite of what you're saying.
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Android Blues posted:I feel like asking your D&D heroes to rise to the challenge of an unfamiliar environment (where the rolls scaled on their existing stats and which they were very much briefed on beforehand) is not a big deal and is really just totally normal for the genre. And they did, right? Amber did repairs and Devo did piloting stuff and Zoox fired weapons. Yeah but asking them to rise to the same challenge over and over is really tiring, and that was my biggest problem outside of the character stuff just not keeping me interested. quote:Like, they had a whole thing about "ship combat will be important and you will have a ship" in the pregame stuff, it was the opposite of what you're saying. Oh, I don't remember that at all.
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Yeah if I remember all the ship stuff was based on the ship stats. Not the character stats.
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Is there somewhere that has plot summaries of each episode? I keep getting lost as to what has actually happened especially when they’re like three jobs deep
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I could watch Clint struggle to play video games all day
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Now that I have kids old enough to be into Gravity Falls, it's wild how close Clint unknowingly manifested Ned as to Grunkle Stan.
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It's such a shame because it really is a good idea for a character and he played him really well, it's just bad luck that somebody else got there first The final episode of amnesty is the only time TAZ ever made me cry
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Travis' Yoda impression had me in tears. One of the funniest bits in the last few years
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The McElroy Brothers will probably not be in Trolls 3... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ40Z62tcXM ...maybe they will at least get a pity invite to the premier. I didn't even know they were making this.
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