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uber_stoat posted:tfw your entire culture is yankee hamburger crumbs lmao those comments own
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Italy should make protectionist laws that pizzas, etc. produced outside of the country must be called something different even though its all from the US
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Mar 23, 2023 21:20
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:lmao all italian food is american been saying thsi
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Mar 23, 2023 22:51
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Mister Speaker posted:I mean it is a pretty dumb take to point at pizza and tiramisu and say "lmao all Italian food is actually American." Just ignore risotto, polenta and every single kind of pasta. Pasta is Chinese op. Risotto is just a crappy paella and I don't think Italians invented porridge.
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Mar 23, 2023 23:46
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Mister Speaker posted:Just ignore risotto, polenta and every single kind of pasta. Way ahead of you, boss.
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Mar 24, 2023 00:06
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Weka posted:Pasta is Chinese op. Risotto is just a crappy paella and I don't think Italians invented porridge. Well they did invent fascism
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Mister Speaker posted:I mean it is a pretty dumb take to point at pizza and tiramisu and say "lmao all Italian food is actually American." Just ignore risotto, polenta and every single kind of pasta. Yeah good point. That’s actually Chinese.
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Mar 24, 2023 00:27
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Weka posted:Pasta is Chinese op. Platystemon posted:Yeah good point. This is dumb history pedantry. Noodles are from Asia. Pasta, specifically, is Italian.
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Mar 24, 2023 00:31
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lol I know a guy who gets really mad if you call pasta noodles so I do it every time
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Mar 24, 2023 00:36
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driving an Italian to madness by calling every type of pasta spaghetti.
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Mar 24, 2023 01:04
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Call all the lil hosed up square noodles radiators
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Mar 24, 2023 01:06
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As a seventh generation Brooklynite, I correctly refer to every type of pasta with sauce as macaroni and gravy 
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Mar 24, 2023 02:44
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Mister Speaker posted:This is dumb history pedantry. Noodles are from Asia. Pasta, specifically, is Italian. What's the difference? Shapes other than long and skinny? Because I don't think making say a hamburger but an octagon is making a new type of food.
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Mar 24, 2023 03:57
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Weka posted:What's the difference? Shapes other than long and skinny? Because I don't think making say a hamburger but an octagon is making a new type of food. I'm no gourmet but to me the delineation is shapes, but also ingredients, and context. Pasta is made with durum or semolina flour, or sometimes potato. As for context, pasta is the noodles but it's also the dish itself. You probably wouldn't be too happy if someone served you carbonara but subbed in udon or ramen noodles for the penne. I loving love pasta; I always looked forward to the tortellini soup at my Nonna's place - load that poo poo with parm and paprika. Cannelloni, also dope. Lasagna, take it or leave it. Gnocchi is the loving best. Pesto is basically ambrosia. I am at an uncomfortable crossroads because I'm in my mid-30s and the dietician/bodybuilding coach/endocrinologist I've been following is against pasta and grains. Have to reconcile that somehow. Also beer.
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Mar 24, 2023 04:10
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Mister Speaker posted:Gnocchi is the loving best. Pesto is basically ambrosia. I am at an uncomfortable crossroads because I'm in my mid-30s this was dinner tonight. i do not give a poo poo.
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Mar 24, 2023 04:14
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Mister Speaker posted:the dietician/bodybuilding coach/endocrinologist I've been following is against pasta and grains. Have to reconcile that somehow. Also beer. why are you going to a dietician who is so obviously racist against italians?
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Mar 24, 2023 04:19
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Did someone post the sopranos clip where Paulie orders macaroni and gravy in Italy yet?
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Business Gorillas posted:Did someone post the sopranos clip where Paulie orders macaroni and gravy in Italy yet? Tempora Mutantur posted:"...and you thought the Germans were classless pieces of poo poo."
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Mister Speaker posted:I mean it is a pretty dumb take to point at pizza and tiramisu and say "lmao all Italian food is actually American." Just ignore risotto, polenta and every single kind of pasta. I don't think the Italians invented plain corn slop but they probably did invent coming down with pellagra from eating nothing else
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Mar 24, 2023 04:29
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Lord of Pie posted:I don't think the Italians invented plain corn slop but they probably did invent coming down with pellagra from eating nothing else when you treat your nutrition like the battle of the isonzo
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Mar 24, 2023 04:33
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Mister Speaker posted:I'm no gourmet but to me the delineation is shapes, but also ingredients, and context. Pasta is made with durum or semolina flour, or sometimes potato. As for context, pasta is the noodles but it's also the dish itself. You probably wouldn't be too happy if someone served you carbonara but subbed in udon or ramen noodles for the penne. The earliest evidence of noodles is from what's now western China, a wheat growing area, so your delineation is particular species of wheat and shape. I wouldn't mind if somebody served me the American dish carbonara with noodles because that's the traditional way. Italians invented pasta like I invented the octaburger, a hamburger that is octagonal and has a durum wheat bun. It's technically true but it's not noteworthy.
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Mar 24, 2023 05:18
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Almost none of the ingredients in traditional Italian cooking are even native to Italy
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Futanari Damacy posted:Almost none of the ingredients in traditional Italian cooking are even native to Italy look jack, once the silphium runs out you gotta find something else to slather in rotten fish juice ok
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Mar 24, 2023 07:28
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Futanari Damacy posted:Almost none of the ingredients in traditional Italian cooking are even native to Italy This is true for a lot of western European cuisine. Get over yourself.
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Mar 24, 2023 11:00
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1TnzCiUSI0
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Mar 24, 2023 13:01
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I pronounce Italian like eye-tallian to inflict the greatest psychic harm, unless I’m otherwise doing an Italian impression (🤌🤌🤌🤌 i cooka da pizza)
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Mar 24, 2023 13:05
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mama mia
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I just saw this episode a few nights ago and I’m pretty sure he plays with some squid ink pasta for a bit and sends it back lol
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Mar 24, 2023 17:34
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i ate leftover gnocchi for like the last four days. i want to make more! turning into a potato ovah here.
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Fleetwood posted:are Austrians German or Italian? theyre hungarian
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Mister Speaker posted:This is true for a lot of western European cuisine. Get over yourself. Personally I think colonialism is bad.
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Futanari Damacy posted:Personally I think colonialism is bad. Good news is that italians were a lot worse at it than most of the more competent euros
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Milo and POTUS posted:Good news is that italians were a lot worse at it than most of the more competent euros *be the proud inheritors of the mantle of the empire that formed western civilization* *lose a war to Ethiopia*
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Reminds me, I live in a heavily Portuguese neighbourhood. There's an old guy that I see sometimes when I'm out for a walk who has a tattoo with some dates and the word 'Angola' on it. In the annual Portugal Day Parade, there are also a dozen or so old guys who march in their old military fatigues. These dudes are almost certainly racist war criminals, right?
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Mister Speaker posted:Reminds me, I live in a heavily Portuguese neighbourhood. There's an old guy that I see sometimes when I'm out for a walk who has a tattoo with some dates and the word 'Angola' on it. In the annual Portugal Day Parade, there are also a dozen or so old guys who march in their old military fatigues. These dudes are almost certainly racist war criminals, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola%E2%80%93Portugal_relations?useskin=vector ye
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Nice, maybe I'll put an Angolan flag in my window next time the parade marches right by my house.
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a more light hearted example is when India unilaterally invaded Portuguese Goa and took it almost without firing a shot because the Portuguese generals realized they were hosed and surrendered rather than get all their men killed. after the soldiers got back to Portugal they were all court martialed for the crime of not dying. then the Portuguese government had the Governor of Goa exiled. just an angry little runt of a country. lots of really stupid poo poo starts happening when the empire starts circling the drain, as we are finding out for ourselves right now.
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Mar 24, 2023 22:53
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Mister Speaker posted:This is true for a lot of western European cuisine. Get over yourself. I'm the person passionately defending the originality of some western European cuisine. Which is obviously not Italian cuisine because Italy isn't in western Europe.
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It's in the south part of the western half of Europe, and is often culturally/politically spoken of in the same sentences as France or Spain. To me, that's Western Europe. What's it like being such a joyless contrarian about everything that you can't even acknowledge a rich and delicious culinary culture?
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