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Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007



I've said it before, britain scores well on anti-corruption indexes not because it's MPs aren't as corrupt and easily bought as a country like Russia or Zimbabwe or Saudia, it's that they are bought for just *so little* that it skews the graph in our favour.

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Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Of course that dweeb Matt Hancock falls for it.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
yeah I've considered buying off local councillors before but when i see how little it costs for an actual mp it just pisses me off

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Drone_Fragger posted:

I've said it before, britain scores well on anti-corruption indexes not because it's MPs aren't as corrupt and easily bought as a country like Russia or Zimbabwe or Saudia, it's that they are bought for just *so little* that it skews the graph in our favour.
Also because the corruption is kept well veneered from ordinary life. Or at least was.

Having to pass a collection box around on the bus to get the border guard to lift the gate, or know the guy you have to send an envelope of cash to in order to get your electricity or water supply fixed in less than 6 months, or obvious bribery around the planning process for your garden shed, that's the sort of corruption that would annoy the people who write letters to the editor, whereas keeping it all at the level of institutional landlords and contracts and property developers and nebulously worded conflicts of interest makes it more palatable to them.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The apparatus of the state is used to extort money from people via price rises and enforcement of rent payments and the money is then bandied about between the government and private interests, and this is called "being good at the economy"

Flux Wildly
Dec 20, 2004

Welkum tü Zanydu!

New Northern Boys dropped

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zljDDcTnTG0

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

There have been official responses from some of them:

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1639710884200103938

e: bonus lol

https://twitter.com/MikeGeolHorton/status/1639741263745282051

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Mar 26, 2023

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


Might be their best yet.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Every time one of your politicians starts a statement with "I've been very clear, " I get super triggered. gently caress you and your clarity you bullshit miserable wanker if you were so clear you wouldn't need to proclaim it every time you're forced to clean your own and others' poo poo off the floor. "I've been very clear that my position has been changed to align with updates to the public record since my last statement. I've certainly not knowingly done anything wah wah wah" Every single one of them uses the same bullshit PR wank to try to appear steadfast and firm in the fierce winds ejected from their parliamentary colleagues' recti, when on occasion it isn't their own. gently caress you

gently caress your clarity. it offends me

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
had my Twitter account hacked overnight and based on the absolute lack of support so far I don't expect to ever get it back

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Julio Cruz posted:

had my Twitter account hacked overnight and based on the absolute lack of support so far I don't expect to ever get it back

They did you a favour then.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Drone_Fragger posted:

I've said it before, britain scores well on anti-corruption indexes not because it's MPs aren't as corrupt and easily bought as a country like Russia or Zimbabwe or Saudia, it's that they are bought for just *so little* that it skews the graph in our favour.

Yeah it's odd. It's almost like economic mobility but exclusively aimed at British failsons. If you look at the US, their politicians are expensive. Even without bribes (or "lobbying") they make millions of dollars through insider trading based on information gained in their position. On top of that they get many millions of dollars publically from "interest groups".

Meanwhile you could buy Johnson for what, a redecoration of a flat he doesn't own? At one point he was getting Deliveroo champagne.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Miftan posted:

They did you a favour then.

I hardly used it any more so it's not a big loss, but I'd still rather not have something with my name on it being used to promote crypto scams

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

Guavanaut posted:

Also because the corruption is kept well veneered from ordinary life. Or at least was.

Having to pass a collection box around on the bus to get the border guard to lift the gate, or know the guy you have to send an envelope of cash to in order to get your electricity or water supply fixed in less than 6 months, or obvious bribery around the planning process for your garden shed, that's the sort of corruption that would annoy the people who write letters to the editor, whereas keeping it all at the level of institutional landlords and contracts and property developers and nebulously worded conflicts of interest makes it more palatable to them.
My view on corruption in the UK is that low-level sleaze of the "slip me a brown envelope with a grand in it if you want your paperwork to be processed in under a year" kind gets stomped on hard and examples are made because it affects everyone, and the class system means there are a fair number of people with power who don't see why the lower orders should get to wet their beaks at the expense of their betters. At a higher level, though, it becomes all about greasing the wheels, and since the money is either going from a company to a person, or the person giving the money is getting a business quid pro quo out of it, well, no harm done, eh? See you at the golf club later.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

It's going to be a race to see who can out-authoritarian the other

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1639770656765014016

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Apparently labour have forbidden members to see the film Corbyn The Big Lie.
Anyway here is a post with links to the film on YouTube (in 4 parts).


https://twitter.com/MattScottMusic/status/1639738574147923969?s=20

I haven't seen it yet.

Meanwhile:

Graham Brady has deleted his Twitter account.presumably related to the article about Tory MPs and the fake Korean company.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Mar 26, 2023

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I don’t know anything about that film, but whoever decided to call it “The Big Lie” is a loving idiot.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

e: nvm, it was a satire post. lol

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Mar 26, 2023

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


fuctifino posted:

It's going to be a race to see who can out-authoritarian the other

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1639770656765014016

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


Payndz posted:

See you at the golf club later.

Would outlawing golf help with this sort of corruption? I feel that it would.

1965917
Oct 4, 2005

Sir Sidney Poitier posted:

Would outlawing golf help with this sort of corruption? I feel that it would.

Couldn't hurt to try

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


In a very weird space right now where another Dad and I are slowly bonding over our kids playdates and I think this is what making new friends used to feel like?

Quickly watching the relevant episode of Bluey to make sure I'm not getting mixed signals

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Chubby Henparty posted:

In a very weird space right now where another Dad and I are slowly bonding over our kids playdates and I think this is what making new friends used to feel like?

Quickly watching the relevant episode of Bluey to make sure I'm not getting mixed signals

Dad friends are the best.

Lean all the way into it. I have made so many over the past year and it has done wonders for my mental health and self esteem.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Cocaine Gove making creamy desserts illegal is certainly audaciously hypocritical

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Chubby Henparty posted:

In a very weird space right now where another Dad and I are slowly bonding over our kids playdates and I think this is what making new friends used to feel like?

Quickly watching the relevant episode of Bluey to make sure I'm not getting mixed signals

This is adorable

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Having lived in NI for 5 years now I think this story neatly ties up its piquant mix of backwater pastoralism and unhinged murderous violence

https://twitter.com/bbcnewsni/status/1639923356404264963?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

smellmycheese posted:

Having lived in NI for 5 years now I think this story neatly ties up its piquant mix of backwater pastoralism and unhinged murderous violence

It used to be more common, finding random weapon stashes, most are left to rust due to the GFA.

Told this story before, my home town in the early 2000s, the primary school was celebrating the birthday of the principal, there was a party planned for the kids.
During break time, one of the kids went into the woods nearby, and came back with a gun.
Whole place was locked down, army and police called, and they found some bullets after searching the area.
The principal instead of thanking the kid got angry for ruining the birthday party, parents threatened suing the school.

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem
rentaghost is trending in twitter for some reason and it made me think of this thread

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
:goofy:

x

quote:

his outlook is driven by strong ethical and moral beliefs – an ethical socialism defined by values, not by non-negotiable doctrines
Very ethically and morally saying anything to get elected, then not doing those things.

Do the guardian opinion-havers actually believe the poo poo they write?



quote:

Having lived in NI for 5 years now I think this story neatly ties up its piquant mix of backwater pastoralism and unhinged murderous violence
I once found a live shotgun round beside a school, took hours for the psni to bother showing up to get it. Should have just thrown it in a fire river instead.

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

happyhippy posted:

It used to be more common, finding random weapon stashes, most are left to rust due to the GFA.

Told this story before, my home town in the early 2000s, the primary school was celebrating the birthday of the principal, there was a party planned for the kids.
During break time, one of the kids went into the woods nearby, and came back with a gun.
Whole place was locked down, army and police called, and they found some bullets after searching the area.
The principal instead of thanking the kid got angry for ruining the birthday party, parents threatened suing the school.

Other side of the border but I remember houses being raided in my area up until the early 2010s. There was a big one once where the entire village just crowded around the house, barely across the road. They ended up finding RPGs and explosives.

We had become used to it to the point where I was online and casually mentioned a bomb was found just down the road (a different time) and my American friend I was on with freaked out and got so worried. I had to explain that this wasn't unusual and it was "just" a pipe bomb.

I like those stories as an example of how the GFA didn't immediately fix the issue, but slowly removed the appetite for paramilitary action. It's legitimately very concerning to see things start to ramp up again.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Lmao



Big Boys stole Keith’s crackdowns and ran away :(

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

Also because the corruption is kept well veneered from ordinary life. Or at least was.

Having to pass a collection box around on the bus to get the border guard to lift the gate, or know the guy you have to send an envelope of cash to in order to get your electricity or water supply fixed in less than 6 months, or obvious bribery around the planning process for your garden shed, that's the sort of corruption that would annoy the people who write letters to the editor, whereas keeping it all at the level of institutional landlords and contracts and property developers and nebulously worded conflicts of interest makes it more palatable to them.

Corruption for me but not for thee.

Imagine if you could just slip the the DWP assessor :20bux: to pass your application.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

The Tories are going ahead with the laughing gas ban, despite the ACMD advising against it

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1639898992753487872

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


Well what are the ACMD for if not to determine the opposite of what the government will do?

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
Gove’s biggest admission of cocaine use in that interview was how much he sniffed his way through it

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

smellmycheese posted:

Lmao



Big Boys stole Keith’s crackdowns and ran away :(

Love the framing of influencing government policy by using the pressure of your role as an opposition party as the worst thing that can possibly happen to you. I mean I'm not sure with this one the tories wouldn't just do it anyway but still

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/11w86qs/xfce_margaret_thatcher_os_new_archbased_distro/

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

happyhippy posted:

It used to be more common, finding random weapon stashes, most are left to rust due to the GFA.

Told this story before, my home town in the early 2000s, the primary school was celebrating the birthday of the principal, there was a party planned for the kids.
During break time, one of the kids went into the woods nearby, and came back with a gun.
Whole place was locked down, army and police called, and they found some bullets after searching the area.
The principal instead of thanking the kid got angry for ruining the birthday party, parents threatened suing the school.

Why in gods name was a school principal even celebrating their birthday at the school, sounds like a self centered gobshite.

edit:

That's a terrible implementation of XFCE, but then again Arch users deserve what they get... elitist pricks.

Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Mar 26, 2023

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

fuctifino posted:

The Tories are going ahead with the laughing gas ban, despite the ACMD advising against it

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1639898992753487872
This would have been the perfect time to praise British ingenuity and the power of the free market to get things done and solve problems.

It'd be a bare faced lie, most of the companies making larger cannisters aren't even British, and free market pressure vessels tended to be in a lot more pieces before regulation, but it's no more of a lie than what he's currently saying in that interview.

"There used to be nitrous oxide waste littering all over our precious countryside. We've fixed that by giving British drive and ingenuity the space to fix the problem, rather than through Labour's middle class crushing Marxist Stalinism."

[go home, don't have to do any work, do cocaine, sorted]

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Mebh
May 10, 2010


sinky posted:

:goofy:

x

Very ethically and morally saying anything to get elected, then not doing those things.

Do the guardian opinion-havers actually believe the poo poo they write?

I hear this argument so loving often. I can't deny its seductive. As someone who was an idiot liberal child the last time labour came to power, you go down the rabbit hole thinking what an actual competent left wing govt that plays the game to get into power then goes turbo socialism might look like.

If you squint really hard, I can see how a lot think that might be Starmer. It's certainly a lot more palatable fantasy than the actual reality.

Then it just devolves into looking at policy, and not being drawn into a "cult of personality" because that would be bad you see. Corbyn was a cult you see.

If you then point out how poo poo the policies are, so far its just been a "lalala" fingers in ears "labour are less poo poo what else you going to do" endless loop and I'm just tired of it.

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