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 For a different Ikea suggestion you might consider the trofast shelves. We had a similar set up in our kids play room and put three of them together for kind of a reading nook effect. Ours are natural wood but I think there's white (and maybe other) finishes. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/cat/trofast-toy-storage-series-19027/ Cornuto fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Mar 9, 2023 |
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Cornuto posted:For a different Ikea suggestion you might consider the trofast shelves. We had a similar set up in our kids play room and put three of them together for kind of a reading nook effect. Ours are natural wood but I think there's white (and maybe other) finishes. Seconding Trofast as a convenient storage furniture, even outside kids' rooms. I use one with the "bucket" drawers in my entrance to store gloves etc, it's smallish footprint made it easier to fit into the narrow space than a regular "grown-up" chests of drawers.
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Josh Lyman posted:I'm looking to replace the plastic storage in my bedroom with something nicer. I know the Ikea Kallax in white is overdone but it's functional and affordable with a clean aesthetic. There are 3 potential layouts. I'd go with option 3 because I think option 1 would look strangely asymmetrical and option 2 might be the most cluttered look. Though I might bump the desk over a little bit away from the shelf, if possible.
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Why white, tho? e: Ah, they've discontinued the wood-coloured one because OF COURSE. Now if I need more I need to go to Facebook Marketplace or whatever. Great.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Why white, tho? e: Ah, they've discontinued the wood-coloured one because OF COURSE. Now if I need more I need to go to Facebook Marketplace or whatever. Great. The ikea fake wood looking stuff was always pretty gross. Did they discontinue it on every product or just those shelves?
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BigFactory posted:The ikea fake wood looking stuff was always pretty gross. Did they discontinue it on every product or just those shelves? It looks like wood. (And, technically, is wood, as it's veneer.) I just got a bad feeling that they've discontinued the oak veneer Billy, too, but luckily not. I'm still missing half the shelves for my study. e: Maybe the Kallax isn't veneer. Who knows. It still looks like wood.
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I’m looking for examples of nuanced interpretations of the men’s lounge aesthetic. Basically a contemporary interpretation of the old school men’s lounge which had stuff like dark colors, moody ambient lighting, leather chesterfields, wood, etc. So far everything I’ve found seems to fall into one of two categories:
Anybody seen cool designs that might fit what I’m looking for? Or brands / content creators I should look at? “Organic modern” is the search phrase that at least gets me in the ball park of relevance to what I’m looking for.
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"Men's lounge"? You mean... like this?
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I think he’s more looking for something like a cigar bar/room aesthetic: e: i think you’re going to need to be clearer on what, specifically, you want to see “updated” with this style. Do you want to get rid of some of the ornate touches like the brass rivets in the armchairs? The edge profile of things like counters? Do you want to go with a big overstuffed leather armchair or something like a Scandi-style small armchair? I will say that I think you’ll have a hard time finding images that fit this style because the type of people who are into it really lean into it hard. I think you might be better off looking at those images of organic modern that you mentioned and seeing where you can fit in some details that call back to the style you’re looking for, rather than trying to design “speakeasy, but in 2023”. Freaquency fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Mar 25, 2023 |
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I kind of feel like you either do have leather wingbacks and wood paneling, and you haven’t updated the vibe at all, or you don’t have those things and you’ve lost the vibe entirely. The reason there isn’t a contemporary interpretation is because, well, it’s not a contemporary concept. The whole idea of a gentleman’s lounge leans into traditionalism (and a bygone era of traditional sexism) on the other hand it would not be so hard to work in neon and smoked glass to the aesthetic, which would def help kill the period piece feel if that’s your objection. maybe some of those nanoleaf panels on the walls
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I think this would cover most of the bases
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The original style is an English gentleman’s club, not a ’70s lounge or something. https://homeguides.sfgate.com/english-gentlemen-clubstyle-decorating-89369.html I agree it came from a sexist, racist period, but everyone loves mcm so I don’t think that’s inherently a disqualifier, as long as what you like is the wood paneling and comfortable chesterfields rather than phrenology sculptures and banning women You probably won’t find anyone doing the exact level of mix-and-match you want. Figuring out your favorite combinations is how you make your own aesthetic. You can look at r/malelivingspaces and see if anyone is on your wavelength vs. beatmasterj’s. I haven’t been on apartment therapy for years, but they used to go nuts for men’s spaces, so it might be worth checking there too. Restoration Hardware can get pretty into that kind of macho look e: I’m so dumb lol, look up dark academia for a gen z take. Gentlemen’s clubs by way of Ivy League common rooms Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Mar 26, 2023 |
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Anne Whateley posted:I agree it came from a sexist, racist period, but everyone loves mcm so I don’t think that’s inherently a disqualifier, as long as what you like is the wood paneling and comfortable chesterfields rather than phrenology sculptures and banning women I didn’t mean to imply this at all fwiw, i think it’s a pretty great aesthetic. I only wanted to point out there are some defining elements which you can’t get rid of without getting out of the style entirely
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About the pull the trigger on a dining table and chairs. I definitely want a tulip table and DSW chairs since my common area is MCM. I have 2 questions: 1) Should I get a white or marble top? This seems to be the cheapest 36-40" with a 1-piece base. I'm indifferent toward white vs marble top, but it seems the canonical Saarinen has a marble top. I could be mistaken though?  https://www.wayfair.com/furniture/pdp/orren-ellis-sengul-pedestal-dining-table-w002980025.html 2) Should I get non-padded chairs with dowel legs or padded chairs with plank legs? I'm afraid the rods on the dowel legs will make 4 of them look busy. Also they're black while my nearby living room accent chair's dowel legs has grey rods. There's a tradeoff because the dowel legs only come with non-padded seats and the plank legs only come with padded seats. I know the pads will accumulate dust/cat hair in the crevices, but I'm okay with cleaning that and also it could be comfy on the rare occasion I have guests?  https://www.amazon.com/Furmax-Assembled-Century-Plastic-Kitchen/dp/B075DCHX5G/  https://www.target.com/p/costway-set-of-4-dining-chair-mid-century-modern-shell-pu-seat-w-wood-leg-white/-/A-82862297 Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Mar 26, 2023 |
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If it's actual marble rather than a marbleized surface, it is a pain in the butt to keep clean, and it stains. Other than that, do you have a chance to sit in the chairs? A dining room chair needs to be comfortable, because you're generally sitting in it for at least half an hour.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I’m looking for examples of nuanced interpretations of the men’s lounge aesthetic. Basically a contemporary interpretation of the old school men’s lounge which had stuff like dark colors, moody ambient lighting, leather chesterfields, wood, etc. the ikea 1985 catalog cover which is like a dark 80s minimalist industrial. not sure if this is too close to your interpretation of "MCM/loft chic" though.  i was at ligne roset over the weekend and they had an interesting modern sofa which (to me) looks like their interpretation of a chesterfield https://www.ligne-roset.com/us/modele/living/sofas/cover/2447  again, i'm not sure if it's too old fashioned for you for you, but many MCM design classics have been reinterpreted into updated masculine lounge spaces, especially bauhaus pieces and especially Le Corbusier's LC2/LC3 chair/sofa in leather. combine it with some old rear end art which can be had for pennies at auctions to reference an old world aesthetic. other than that, i would look at substantial pieces in materials like like burl wood and marble, shag carpeting, and italian lighting (martinelli luce, artemide, flos, etc., who carry many design classics that have been in production for 50 years, or other contemporary pieces). this isn't my favorite interior for the le corbusier sofa but here you go: 
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Arsenic Lupin posted:If it's actual marble rather than a marbleized surface, it is a pain in the butt to keep clean, and it stains. Other than that, do you have a chance to sit in the chairs? A dining room chair needs to be comfortable, because you're generally sitting in it for at least half an hour. As for the chairs, no, I don't think any stores around me have them to try. Target says I can return the padded ones to a store and obviously I can return the non-padded ones from Amazon though that'll be a pain. I agree that sitting comfort is essential. This is my living room accent chair and while it's okay, you definitely adjust yourself if you sit for more than a few minutes. Maybe that means I should go for padded. 
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Josh Lyman posted:The top is faux marble so no concerns about maitenance. I guess the question about marble vs white top is purely aesthetics. I wouldn’t buy chairs from target I couldn’t see in person. Unless you look at them as purely disposable
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Arsenic Lupin posted:If it's actual marble rather than a marbleized surface, it is a pain in the butt to keep clean, and it stains. Other than that, do you have a chance to sit in the chairs? A dining room chair needs to be comfortable, because you're generally sitting in it for at least half an hour. This is why I always laugh when I see photos of homes with Tolix chairs in their dining rooms. They are not comfortable for more than 15-30 minutes and that’s at least part of the reason why they’re so popular in bistros and coffee shops. Imagine putting a set in your house willingly. E: BigFactory posted:I wouldn’t buy chairs from target I couldn’t see in person. Unless you look at them as purely disposable Yeah I’ve noticed that they sell a lot of stuff on their website these days that seems to not actually come from Target and the quality can vary wildly. I don’t think any Target chairs are going to last more than a few years but it’s even more of a gamble nowadays. Freaquency fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Mar 26, 2023 |
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Why white, tho? e: Ah, they've discontinued the wood-coloured one because OF COURSE. Now if I need more I need to go to Facebook Marketplace or whatever. Great. BigFactory posted:I wouldn’t buy chairs from target I couldn’t see in person. Unless you look at them as purely disposable Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Mar 26, 2023 |
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Josh Lyman posted:I've settled on a 2x2 short square Kallax under the window with a large money tree in the corner. It's available in white stained oak effect which would match my bed and nightstands, but since it will be visually separated by the money tree and next to my white top desk, I think it makes sense to go with white. If you want to have repeat guests I would suggest making sure that they have comfortable seating.
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Josh Lyman posted:The top is faux marble so no concerns about maintenance. I guess the question about marble vs white top is purely aesthetics Oh, in that case I definitely choose simplicity, but that's me and not you. If you don't have dinner guests, why are you putting your decoration money into dining-room chairs anyway? Splash out on a nice rug instead.
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The tulip table I linked was $380 when I looked at it a month ago, then it went to $440 and now it's $450. I don't know if it's gonna drop under $400 again  Freaquency posted:If you want to have repeat guests I would suggest making sure that they have comfortable seating. Arsenic Lupin posted:Oh, in that case I definitely choose simplicity, but that's me and not you. If you don't have dinner guests, why are you putting your decoration money into dining-room chairs anyway? Splash out on a nice rug instead.
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Josh Lyman posted:I've settled on a 2x2 short square Kallax under the window with a large money tree in the corner. It's available in white stained oak effect which would match my bed and nightstands, but since it will be visually separated by the money tree and next to my white top desk, I think it makes sense to go with white. I bought a small piece of furniture from target’s website (not something that you could see in store) and it broke catastrophically before it was fully assembled. If want a guest to break one of your chairs, or have to tell them that you think they might be too fat to have lunch at your place, go for it. Also, all that furniture is ugly and looks cheap, in my very humble opinion.
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Honestly your goal at the moment should be getting functional pieces that will actually be used instead of aping a design that you think looks good with cheap lookalikes. If you spend 600 dollars on a dining set but no one wants to use it because it’s uncomfortable and falling apart then you’re just wasting half a K. I know IKEA isn’t exactly sexy, but you can get a Docksta tulip table and two Odger dining chairs for about 500 bucks. They’re similar in design to the things you’re looking at while not trying to be those things, and crucially you can actually touch and sit in them before buying. Also, if you take decent care of them you can sell them off to someone else if/when you decide to move on to something better. The Costway stuff will just wind up in a landfill.
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Freaquency posted:Honestly your goal at the moment should be getting functional pieces that will actually be used instead of aping a design that you think looks good with cheap lookalikes. If you spend 600 dollars on a dining set but no one wants to use it because it’s uncomfortable and falling apart then you’re just wasting half a K. I have ikea stuff that’s going on 15 years old and is still in good shape, with daily use.
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BigFactory posted:I have ikea stuff that’s going on 15 years old and is still in good shape, with daily use. Same here. The last couple of times we’ve moved we’ve taken the opportunity to upgrade a few things and have sold the IKEA stuff for probably 60-70% of what we paid for it. Also lol that iOS autocorrect capitalizes IKEA automatically. Brand synergy baby
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BigFactory posted:Also, all that furniture is ugly and looks cheap, in my very humble opinion. And does ugly include my accent chair? The render may look off but I think it looks p nice in person? I did it get during the height of lockdown in summer 2020 so maybe I'm completely wrong?  Freaquency posted:Honestly your goal at the moment should be getting functional pieces that will actually be used instead of aping a design that you think looks good with cheap lookalikes. If you spend 600 dollars on a dining set but no one wants to use it because it’s uncomfortable and falling apart then you’re just wasting half a K.  I had looked at the Odger but I worry about comfort given the lack of padding. I do love this silhouette though.  I'd be open to the Karlpetter too. 
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Freaquency posted:I think he’s more looking for something like a cigar bar/room aesthetic: I think this is just called Old World style , no?
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Josh Lyman posted:2) Should I get non-padded chairs with dowel legs or padded chairs with plank legs? I'm afraid the rods on the dowel legs will make 4 of them look busy. Also they're black while my nearby living room accent chair's dowel legs has grey rods. My sister has these or something very similar and they are horribly balanced and fall over if you put a coat on the back or lean back even a little.
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If you ever plan on entertaining fat people, do not buy cup-shaped seats, not even a bit concave.
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Cornuto posted:I think this is just called Old World style , no? But Old World style doesn't have a specific connotation as far as I know... just "vaguely European, I guess?" Which reminds me, anybody else remember when one of the options for furniture style was "Mediterranean"? A very '60s thing, and nobody's started collecting it for some reason. The best I can describe it is "medium-toned wood with lots of knobbly bits."   House tour Josh, if I were you I'd invest in some comfy cushions and assume that any dinner guests would be sitting around the coffee table with you. You have far better uses for that space than seating for hypothetical guests. Bookcases. Hamster mazes. A complete collection of Classics Illustrated. "Adults" flat-out don't hold dinner parties any more; that's very much a Boomer thing, which is why used china, silver, and sideboards are a drug on the market.
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Josh Lyman posted:I can see where you're coming from for the DSW chairs, but the Wayfair tulip table seems pretty normal to me? I think that chair is medium ugly.
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Freaquency posted:I know IKEA isn’t exactly sexy, but you can get a Docksta tulip table and two Odger dining chairs for about 500 bucks. They’re similar in design to the things you’re looking at while not trying to be those things, and crucially you can actually touch and sit in them before buying. Also, if you take decent care of them you can sell them off to someone else if/when you decide to move on to something better. The Costway stuff will just wind up in a landfill. Would it look weird to only have 2 chairs at a 40" table? Yes, this whole exercise is for when I bring over a date, and I do have more chairs for the one time a year I might have more people over, but I do worry it will look mismatched. I certainly don't mind not spending another $250 on a 2nd pair of chairs though. I'm planning to pick them up next weekend. BigFactory posted:I think that chair is medium ugly. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 26, 2023 |
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Josh Lyman posted:Okay, I've convinced myself that white Docksta + navy Odger is the best option for stuff I'll rarely use but needs to work when I do and also look good. Our round dining table had only two chairs around it for a year and a half. It was a small space and it looked fine. We kept other chairs out of sight in case someone was over.
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So, it turns out the Docksta stem uses a plastic sheath to achieve the shape. I really think that's gonna bother me in the long run. Meanwhile, this thing has a single piece base and really good reviews. Yes it's $600 for the 40" but I think I'm gonna be happier with it in the long run. It does have a glossy top which I'm concerned could show fingerprints or cats scratches but it's probably not a big deal.  https://www.amazon.com/Modway-Mid-Century-Modern-Kitchen-Pedestal/dp/B00K6AA2V6 40" looks like the perfect size for either 2 or 4:   
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Millennials didn’t kill dinner parties (we invented Friendsgiving!), we just permanently deformalized them. As part of that lack of formality, most people are usually cool sitting on floor cushions, but some people can’t or will find it uncomfortable, or you might have your parents over sometime. A gateleg or other type of expanding table is the perfect compromise imo, but if you have enough space, a permanent table is cool too. I would get 4 seats if you can swing it. Or at minimum have high-quality, high-capacity folding chairs stashed in a closet if possible. If you ever do actually have a dinner party (and you should, it’s fun!), people will probably wind up crosslegged on the floor anyway, you just want them to have the choice
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Josh Lyman posted:So, it turns out the Docksta stem uses a plastic sheath to achieve the shape. I really think that's gonna bother me in the long run. This seems like a much better option than the other ones you linked. I'd still think about looking at second hand (either online or irl) if you're trying to stay under a grand
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absolem posted:This seems like a much better option than the other ones you linked. I'd still think about looking at second hand (either online or irl) if you're trying to stay under a grand e: If you're worried about scratches, you can always keep an attractive tablecloth on it. I admit it ruins the purity.
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Thoughts on curtain tracks vs rod? I'm getting new sheer white curtains for the sliding glass door to my balcony and the panels are giant (100"W x 108"L). I have a bulkhead that drops a foot or two below the ceiling in front of the door so that would obscure either a rod or track. (I know, the popcorn ceiling is unfortunate)
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