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repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Kikas posted:

I mean if you want to show-off raytracing, old games with simple graphics are the best. Quake 2 or Minecraft with RTX are impressive because of the massive shift in graphics.

minecraft is one the best candidates for it because the nature of the game, where absolutely everything is dynamic, means the conventional tricks for high quality lighting based on pre-calculation simply wouldn't work

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Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/87607

It looks like someone is trying to make their own Open Cities type deal. I wonder what Arthmoor thinks of-

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/87707

Ah, I see, he reuploaded it literally the next day.

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)
I see he's still weirdly obsessed with putting oblivion gates in his mods.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Wait so was open cities taken down this entire time? And coincidentally right after someone else uploaded something similar Arthmoor came running to put it back up?

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Does that really surprise you? Either Arthmoor having taken the mod down over some likely pointless bit of modder drama, or him reuploading it after someone else tries to "replace" it?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Commander Keene posted:

Does that really surprise you? Either Arthmoor having taken the mod down over some likely pointless bit of modder drama, or him reuploading it after someone else tries to "replace" it?

Now the question is will he submit a takedown request to nexus for the other persons mod because he reuploaded his bad mod

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)
"Uh it's a copy of my mod and therefore theft of intellectual preoperty and you should"

forest spirit
Apr 6, 2009

Frigate Hetman Sahaidachny
First to Fight Scuttle, First to Fall Sink


No discussion posts allowed on Arthmoor's mod, but the other one is already lively at 50 posts!

Proletarian Mango
May 21, 2011

newer, better made mod:


arthmoor:


open cities apparently has an ingame menu via mcm, but then arthmoor's got the oblivion gates toggle scripted through some ingame book that can be lost/destroyed and using another patch to remove the gates will crash the game lol

why was open cities taken down to begin with?

e: oh wait this is on his profile:

"Due to the recent policy changes Nexus has instituted, I have put in the request for deletion of most of my files here. Not to worry, everything I have done over the last 15 years has been on AFK Mods for several years now for all of the BGS games I've modded. The files for Skyrim Special Edition and Fallout 4 are also available through the bethesda.net website.

Ya'll can go ahead and get the accusations of hypocrisy over with for the work I will be leaving here since I am in a position at the moment where the income generated through DPs is providing enough to keep me from starving to death (but not much more).

As of this notice, no more updates or new material will be uploaded by myself.

Per the standing agreements with the unofficial patch team members, the unofficial patches for SSE and Fallout 4 will continue to receive all regularly scheduled updates, but these will be the ONLY packages in my account that will be.

Here's to hoping that current efforts by several parties to launch sites that honor a mod author's legal right to delete their content take hold and provide some badly needed competition in this space.

I also want to make one thing crystal clear: No permission will be granted to anyone to upload any of my work that is deleted to Nexus or any other website. So don't ask."


ee: lol the unofficial patch is a team project and arthmoor got his patreon plastered in the middle of the description

Proletarian Mango fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Mar 25, 2023

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)
"My 'I'm not a hypocrite' shirt raises a lot of questions that etc"

God gently caress that guy. Is he still working on his dumb bear RPG

Proletarian Mango
May 21, 2011

Philippe posted:

"My 'I'm not a hypocrite' shirt raises a lot of questions that etc"

God gently caress that guy. Is he still working on his dumb bear RPG

It crashed and burned and has been abandoned for years at this point:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/554570/Witanlore_Dreamtime/

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
I love consuming any and all arthmoor dumb baby drama as he throws a meltdown at any reasonable thing or blatantly reuploads his mod he took down in a fit because someone else might of stolen his thunder within a day.

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

Proletarian Mango posted:

It crashed and burned and has been abandoned for years at this point:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/554570/Witanlore_Dreamtime/

You love to see it

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Leal posted:

Wait so was open cities taken down this entire time? And coincidentally right after someone else uploaded something similar Arthmoor came running to put it back up?

He had it on his own site. He pulled down most of his mods and kept them there... except several ones that got particularly high downloads because $$$. He absolutely knows that his site cannot compete and that any similar mod on the Nexus will automatically get more downloads because it's centralized.

The newer mod isn't complete at all, but the modder seems to be a pleasant person to deal with.

Orv
May 4, 2011
GateGate 2: Oblivion Boogaloo

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Arthmoor posted:

I am in a position at the moment where the income generated through DPs is providing enough to keep me from starving to death (but not much more).

You'd think double-penetrations would pay better.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Is he really gonna pull the "I need to have absolute control over mods (including going after anyone who makes anything somewhat similar) to feed myself" card?

I feel like if you're really that hard up, trying to monopolize mods for a game that is over a decade old isn't the way to secure funding.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Seems like so far he's just decided his ego outweighs his "moral" objections to modpacks or whatever and has put Open Cities back for download now that this new guy has a competing mod on the Nexus. Which is :lol:, but there's nothing actually wrong with it.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Proletarian Mango posted:

newer, better made mod:


arthmoor:


open cities apparently has an ingame menu via mcm, but then arthmoor's got the oblivion gates toggle scripted through some ingame book that can be lost/destroyed and using another patch to remove the gates will crash the game lol

why was open cities taken down to begin with?

e: oh wait this is on his profile:

"Due to the recent policy changes Nexus has instituted, I have put in the request for deletion of most of my files here. Not to worry, everything I have done over the last 15 years has been on AFK Mods for several years now for all of the BGS games I've modded. The files for Skyrim Special Edition and Fallout 4 are also available through the bethesda.net website.

Ya'll can go ahead and get the accusations of hypocrisy over with for the work I will be leaving here since I am in a position at the moment where the income generated through DPs is providing enough to keep me from starving to death (but not much more).

As of this notice, no more updates or new material will be uploaded by myself.

Per the standing agreements with the unofficial patch team members, the unofficial patches for SSE and Fallout 4 will continue to receive all regularly scheduled updates, but these will be the ONLY packages in my account that will be.

Here's to hoping that current efforts by several parties to launch sites that honor a mod author's legal right to delete their content take hold and provide some badly needed competition in this space.

I also want to make one thing crystal clear: No permission will be granted to anyone to upload any of my work that is deleted to Nexus or any other website. So don't ask."


ee: lol the unofficial patch is a team project and arthmoor got his patreon plastered in the middle of the description

the reason the oblivion gates are in a control book vs mcm is arthmoor lifted the oblivion gates wholesale from another mod, control method and all, and just kitbashed it into his.

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

Orv posted:

GateGate 2: Ah gently caress Not This Guy Again

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Something to remember about old Arthmoor: He complained about Paid Mods being axed back when they were originally attempted on the steam workshop - he talked about how it was taking away money he was counting on, and that he was unemployed.

Arthmoor's furry game actually had a playable demo, and if it could've had the resources for some polish, it would've fit right in as an N64-style retro adventure game.

The problem, it seems, is Arthmoors repugnant personality. Somebody with his technical skill should be able to get a computer-toucher job somewhere and not be living hand to mouth, but he can't because he utterly lacks any soft skills. He couldn't get his game off the ground because he couldn't get anyone to invest in it (and there were like a dozen idea guys on the team and no programmers lol.)

Arthmoor is also the only prominent Bethesda modder who didn't get to do a Creation Vlub mod and get paid that way, but he's burned any bridges he has at Bethesda.

He us living purely in a Hell of his own making and it is delicious to witness.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



It's worth pointing out as well that AFK Mods, as well as the up and coming Mod Sanctum which he is a prominent member of, are both obsessed with free speech. This means exactly what you think it does.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Relyssa posted:

It's worth pointing out as well that AFK Mods, as well as the up and coming Mod Sanctum which he is a prominent member of, are both obsessed with free speech. This means exactly what you think it does.

I had to drop out of a discord I only joined for some technical help with a mod because I was getting updates the day nexus deleted a mod that removed all the pride flags in the Spider-Man game.

Simon The Digger
Dec 23, 2010

Some Kind of Magical Idiot

Relyssa posted:

It's worth pointing out as well that AFK Mods, as well as the up and coming Mod Sanctum which he is a prominent member of, are both obsessed with free speech. This means exactly what you think it does.

So the very specific version of free speech that chuds believe in, as in "free to toss slurs around", got it.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

[Is a complete rear end in a top hat for decades]

:qq: Why won't anyone hire me?! :qq:

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Relyssa posted:

It's worth pointing out as well that AFK Mods, as well as the up and coming Mod Sanctum which he is a prominent member of, are both obsessed with free speech. This means exactly what you think it does.

He had some poo poo like "The day America died" with the date Obama was elected in his signature over there too.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

I think he had that on the actual Nexus forums too.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
Just a few days ago, I was trying to figure out why a mesh I had edited kept breaking. Basically everything I read said that the "Auto sanitize before save" feature was harmless on NifSkope. I found only two things that indicated that it was causing my problem (which it was). One of them was on Loverslab. Everyone there was extremely nice and friendly and helpful to the newbie who was having a similar problem. The solution was to turn off that feature if it goes off and the resulting mesh breaks, because it can apparently cause a problem a small portion of the time.

The other was on Arthmoor's forum where some other modder was tersely helpful, but the SECOND the newbie thanked them and left the topic, the other modder pitched a fit about how they'd never help people again because they're just so selfish and he asked for ONE THING. (He wanted a copy of a broken file or something? It seemed to me that the newbie had posted their reply and it'd gotten crossed with the modder's request so it probably wasn't noticed.) He was mad that a newbie mesh editor would just ask for help, receive it gratefully, and leave. The guy even later saw the reply and came back and gave the requested file and everything. Arthmoor popped in with some superior poo poo about "entitled users."

I cannot express how much I prefer getting help from the people making potentially depraved 3d modeling porn that might get you on a watchlist vs. anyone at Arthmoor's forum. The difference is night and day. It was just so unpleasant seeing someone else get that "help."

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Perverts have contributed more to modding than any other group. There's a poo poo ton of new animation mods for Skyrim that just improve third person when you're running or swinging a sword and I know the basic framework for that was developed by people trying to animate some truly disgusting poo poo.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021


As in everything else, porn is at the forefront of cutting-edge advancement.

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm
There have been legitimate, major breakthroughs in professional computer animation because people wanted to make better porn of Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
Pretty sure that's sensationalized. It definitely had an impact in amateur animation (with SFM, I believe?), but professionals use different tools with different workflows.

Nevertheless, adult content communities are often remarkably friendly.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

Kyte posted:

Pretty sure that's sensationalized. It definitely had an impact in amateur animation (with SFM, I believe?), but professionals use different tools with different workflows.

Nevertheless, adult content communities are often remarkably friendly.

I do wonder if the rise of SFM porn has led to a lot of people becoming animators because it's a tool that's designed to be easy to use and making porn means it'll be easy to find an audience. Like the professionals may use different tools but I bet there's an amateur -> professional pipeline that didn't exist before thanks to SFM porn.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Major advancements in AI generated art regarding human anatomy will be driven by porn.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this

The Cheshire Cat posted:

I do wonder if the rise of SFM porn has led to a lot of people becoming animators because it's a tool that's designed to be easy to use and making porn means it'll be easy to find an audience. Like the professionals may use different tools but I bet there's an amateur -> professional pipeline that didn't exist before thanks to SFM porn.

There was animated 3d porn before SFM but I imagine it lowered the barrier of entry.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

The one source for that i can find is this tweet and strangely i can find nothing in this thread that either denies or confirms it

https://twitter.com/Bolverk15/status/1530829017502437376

High doubts that animation was fundamentally advanced but ease of use tools for blender to let people make porn easier? That I can believe.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Major advancements in AI generated art regarding human anatomy will be driven by porn.

This will absolutely be how it comes about. Least of all because porn has the most data to train off :v:.

The first "true" AI is gonna be a very thirsty being.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Major advancements in AI generated art regarding human anatomy will be driven by porn.

Trained off stolen content to produce fabricated content of real people without their consent.

Nightmare poo poo.

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silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Magmarashi posted:

Trained off stolen content to produce fabricated content of real people without their consent.

Nightmare poo poo.

https://twitter.com/normalcatpics/status/1623418249550471168

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