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Shageletic posted:feel like we've had this same dumb conversation before where people were talking about knowing people who died because their coke was laced with fentanyl and other people still saying nah lol Because anecdotal evidence isn't evidence of a trend its just evidence that "a thing happened" Law enforcement have pointed to isolated incidents of tainted drugs as proof that all drugs are potentially fatally tainted since before most of us were born There isnt a lot of economic sense in tainting your product with a contrary substance that is also hard to mix (famously insoluable) and often fatally lethal. Usually non-stimulants only make their way into the coke supply when dealers WANT to kill a client, not as a means to make an already incredibly addictive substance more addictive Miss me with studies that cite police provided statistics as evidence this is happening If any goons actually had real friends and real family rather than "people they know" die to this, my apologies to those goons, but i get the feeling this is anecdotes of anecdotes more than it's not. The isolated cases of this occurring can be explained away the same way they always have: dont borrow or steal from people who sell drugs Edit: and for real i dont get the "it makes it more addictive" argument when were talking about literally loving cocaine, you want to talk about a product that doesn't need any help, lmao. Mirthless has issued a correction as of 22:58 on Mar 27, 2023 |
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we only managed to learn a single lessons from the last baby formula poisoning: https://twitter.com/RadioGuyChris/status/1526150975920013312?t=k2f5Y_HrA5HqL7ZwVu66bA&s=19
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Mar 27, 2023 22:51
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Mirthless posted:Because anecdotal evidence isn't evidence of a trend its just evidence that "a thing happened" You and your stupid bullshit. Number 1 killer of people btwn 18-45 is fentanyl: https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/12/23/fentanyl-now-biggest-killer-americans-18-45-years-old/ quote:From 2012 to 2018, overdoses that involved cocaine more than tripled. Over 14,500 people died from overdoses on cocaine in 2018. Of the 14,666 cocaine overdoses, approximately three-quarters of those involved opioids, like fentanyl. https://www.addictionresource.net/blog/fentanyl-laced-cocaine/ I love you're mentioning loving anecdotes tsince you don't have that and I personally know multiple ppl that have died bc of it to the extent ppl carry around supplies to test for fentanyl when partying
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Mar 27, 2023 23:03
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You do understand that the media just replaced opiates with the word fentanyl here right
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Mar 27, 2023 23:06
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Also "We've seen a very significant rise in mortality," said Dr. Nora Volkow, head of the National Institute of Drug Abuse, who spoke Thursday as part of an on-line gathering of the American Society of Addiction Medicine. Volkow said people are often consuming fentanyl "unbeknownst to them," resulting in a spike in overdose deaths. According to preliminary figures released earlier this month by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, synthetic opioid fatalities rose by an unprecedented 55% during the twelve months ending in September 2020. (The CDC says overdose death data is reported after a roughly six-month lag because of the challenges of collecting accurate information from jurisdictions around the country.) Deaths from methamphetamines and other stimulants also surged by roughly 46%, an increase Volkow said is linked to fentanyl contamination. "It's rare to find people who only overdose on cocaine or who only overdose on methamphetamines," she said. "Fentanyl is being used to lace the illicit drug market because it's very profitable."
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Mar 27, 2023 23:08
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This poo poo is loving personal to me Mirthless. Is there anything backing up your point other than your hard to fathom confidence?
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Mar 27, 2023 23:09
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Synthetic opioids include oxycodone big pharmaceutical thanks you for your service
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Mar 27, 2023 23:12
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Homegrown content for the thread. The out of touch $10k table computer janitor believes in the bell curve. Hadlock posted:IQ denialism is a very weird and fringe position
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Mar 27, 2023 23:14
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Nothus posted:The mission of the FDA and EPA is to cover-up and distract i deal with the FDA on a semi-regular basis and the best way to describe them is the bureaucracy from Futurama they didn't find the bacteria, they just found that the manufacturer had found the bacteria in a test then they evaluated the manufacturers response to finding the bacteria and what the manufacturer had done on their own after the failed tests, all while the facility was still in operation then they leave for awhile to issue a finding and a request for a response. At that point the company can try to impress the FDA with a voluntary recall of scope to be decided by the manufacturer. The FDA will evaluate this months or maybe a year later to see if they actually are impressed. Somewhere in all of that bullshit babies died. The original manufacturer never actually stopped making formula or identified the root cause of the bacteria and killed babies by not handling the situation correctly internally on their own. That's why politicians are blaming the company and not the oversight agency since it doesn't really do a lot in the way of prevention. They only really activate and force recalls once the damage is done. Rectal Death Adept has issued a correction as of 23:21 on Mar 27, 2023 |
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Mar 27, 2023 23:14
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lmao yikes Hadlock here's a doomy chart https://twitter.com/lines_down/status/1640475727102636033
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Mar 27, 2023 23:15
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the bitcoin of weed posted:we only managed to learn a single lessons from the last baby formula poisoning: Extremely centrist voice: A few babies starving is the price we pay to let billionaires profit off them starving.
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Mar 27, 2023 23:18
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https://twitter.com/NickTimiraos/status/1640426072578859008?t=OjMYjg5zkcSTCo4T5zV_HQ&s=19 https://twitter.com/darioperkins/status/1640271965352075264?t=TYZomgbuiCM4CT2bTYD2pw&s=19
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Mar 27, 2023 23:23
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i would like some free money please
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Mar 27, 2023 23:25
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Mr Hootington posted:Homegrown content for the thread. The out of touch $10k table computer janitor believes in the bell curve. Jesus Christ. 24 hours is not enough Edit: Nothus posted:The mission of the FDA and EPA is to cover-up and distract The US is a nation that won’t even do anything about school shootings; why would it care about baby formula deaths?
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Mar 27, 2023 23:25
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Chillgamesh posted:Extremely centrist voice: A few babies starving is the price we pay to let billionaires profit off them starving. lol a friend of mine whos baby has to drink nutrigemen? (super low allergy formula) literally has his internet friends all over the US trying to hunt down cans of it on and off because the supply chain is so stuttery. His kid is just getting fully onto solids now so its no longer going to be a thing but I was even trying to order him formula here in WA to ship to MA bc no one could find any locally for months.
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Mar 27, 2023 23:26
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we've been in a recession for like a year
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Mar 27, 2023 23:26
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World Bank sees average global growth to dropping to 2.2% through 2030 https://twitter.com/as_a_worker/status/1640440142539128832
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Mar 27, 2023 23:27
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webcams for christ posted:World Bank sees average global growth to dropping to 2.2% through 2030 Global lost decade
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Mar 27, 2023 23:29
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webcams for christ posted:World Bank sees average global growth to dropping to 2.2% through 2030 Needs a negative sign
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silicone thrills posted:lol a friend of mine whos baby has to drink nutrigemen? (super low allergy formula) literally has his internet friends all over the US trying to hunt down cans of it on and off because the supply chain is so stuttery. His kid is just getting fully onto solids now so its no longer going to be a thing but I was even trying to order him formula here in WA to ship to MA bc no one could find any locally for months. It might still be worth it to get it and ship it to him if you can/willing, because babies on Nutramigen (and other minimal ingredient/specialty formulas) often still have to take it for a few to several months after they start solid foods, as a very slow, gentle transition.
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Mar 27, 2023 23:30
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webcams for christ posted:World Bank sees average global growth to dropping to 2.2% through 2030
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Mar 27, 2023 23:32
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Father Wendigo posted:This thread needs something to cheer things up. Who's game for some LOL-CRIMEZ? crypto morons love making my_crimes.txt lol
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Mar 27, 2023 23:36
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webcams for christ posted:World Bank sees average global growth to dropping to 2.2% through 2030 lol imagine paying people more lmao
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Mar 27, 2023 23:36
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It's not a bailout tho!! Don't look behind the curtain!! https://twitter.com/NickTimiraos/status/1640426072578859008
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Mar 27, 2023 23:39
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webcams for christ posted:World Bank sees average global growth to dropping to 2.2% through 2030 By God that's Karl Marx's music
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Mar 27, 2023 23:40
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Mr Hootington posted:Global lost decade Oh good, another one.
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Mar 27, 2023 23:41
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RUNAWAY PETE! CAN'T KEEP THE TRAINS FROM RUNNING INTO EACHOTHER
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Mar 27, 2023 23:41
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Paradoxish posted:it's gotta be possible for trains to derail less often than this right trains are derailing less. but derailments are involving more hazardous materials and more serious hazardous incidents. so they’re becoming much bigger loving deals.
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Mar 27, 2023 23:45
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Mirthless posted:Because anecdotal evidence isn't evidence of a trend its just evidence that "a thing happened" So you have a gut feeling that fentanyl is basically a giant conspiracy and toxicology reports are being doctored nationwide? Guess I can add you to the growing list of clueless dipshits who should be ignored under all circumstances
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Mar 27, 2023 23:48
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https://twitter.com/BaileyHurleyVNL/status/1640477928780595200?cxt=HHwWgICw7YH_ksQtAAAA
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Mar 27, 2023 23:51
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One of the best pages in the history of the thread so far
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Mar 27, 2023 23:53
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webcams for christ posted:more Binance CFTC complaint deets It's getting lost in the rest of the thread, but I'm actually having a little mini-meltdown about this. This is just ... wildly illegal. Unbelievably, incredibly, holy poo poo what the gently caress that I can't even believe it illegal. The largest bitcoin exchange in the world has just been provably indicted by the US government with an absolute slam dunk case. Like, far worse than Enron ever was. https://twitter.com/Cryptadamist/status/1640399359949918208 https://twitter.com/Cryptadamist/status/1640422469751193611 They have legit grounds to dismantle the entire crypto infrastructure. And people seem to be just glossing over it.
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Mar 27, 2023 23:53
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Shageletic posted:This poo poo is loving personal to me Mirthless. Is there anything backing up your point other than your hard to fathom confidence? He's a loving moron.
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Mar 27, 2023 23:54
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RockyB posted:It's getting lost in the rest of the thread, but I'm actually having a little mini-meltdown about this. This is just ... wildly illegal. Unbelievably, incredibly, holy poo poo what the gently caress that I can't even believe it illegal. The largest bitcoin exchange in the world has just been provably indicted by the US government with an absolute slam dunk case. Like, far worse than Enron ever was.  death to crypto
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Mar 27, 2023 23:58
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Nothus posted:By God that's Karl Marx's music 
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Mar 27, 2023 23:59
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Vox Nihili posted:So you have a gut feeling that fentanyl is basically a giant conspiracy and toxicology reports are being doctored nationwide? Guess I can add you to the growing list of clueless dipshits who should be ignored under all circumstances No, my argument is that: 1. The infiltration of Fentanyl into other drug supplies is overstated 2. The impact of pharmaceutical opioids (and to a point, non-opioids) is being understated (in a variety of ways) 3. The people controlling the outflow of all of the numbers on this subject have a history of lying to us about what these numbers mean (see: crack vs cocaine) Fentanyl is a very real and huge problem mostly impacting the domestic heroin and benzodiazepine supply, because you can pass an opiate for one of those drugs to somebody who isn't really paying attention. You can't sell fentanyl to people looking for a stimulant because they will instantly know they don't have a stimulant. Is it happening? Sure. Is this the norm? I doubt it. I don't doubt that the standard for your average drug dealer is "pretty evil", but I won't dehumanize addicts to this degree, sorry quote:I love you're mentioning loving anecdotes tsince you don't have that and I personally know multiple ppl that have died bc of it to the extent ppl carry around supplies to test for fentanyl when partying I have personally used a reagent kit to test drugs before and while fentanyl is certainly a thing you should be testing for, the main reason you test is to find like analogues and adulterated product which mainly happens for cost effectiveness reasons; Methamphetamine gets cut into or swapped for MDMA all the time, for example. Are there people out there putting fentanyl in everything? Maybe? But that's not usually what you're actually looking out for when you're buying stimulants. The media has worked very hard to make the broader opioid epidemic into an issue that is solely about fentanyl and the broader addiction crisis into an issue with drug use/addicts rather than issue with access to clean drugs; I don't see a need to feed the hysteria Mirthless has issued a correction as of 00:25 on Mar 28, 2023 |
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Mar 28, 2023 00:22
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Shageletic posted:Also polypharm overdoses are super fun for responders too because either the cops gets there and magdump all their nasal narcan into them and they’re combative by the time I get there, or I barely ease some IV narcan in them trying to titrate respers and they come roaring out of the overdose super agitated and hypoxic like the loving hulk. it’s happened enough that I’ve been tempted to forego narcan altogether, tube them immediately and transport.
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Mar 28, 2023 00:22
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Mirthless posted:There isnt a lot of economic sense in tainting your product with a contrary substance that is also hard to mix (famously insoluable) and often fatally lethal. Usually non-stimulants only make their way into the coke supply when dealers WANT to kill a client, not as a means to make an already incredibly addictive substance more addictive yeah, thank goodness the invisible hand keeps distributers in unregulated black markets in check so only the purest and safest drugs are ever sold to consumers. dealers intentionally killing their clients? hey, even invisible hands deserve a day off.
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Mar 28, 2023 00:23
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goochtit posted:https://twitter.com/BaileyHurleyVNL/status/1640477928780595200?cxt=HHwWgICw7YH_ksQtAAAA Lies, if it was spilling antifreeze there wouldn't be any snow. 
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webcams for christ posted:World Bank sees average global growth to dropping to 2.2% through 2030 this gets a huge lmao from me because the IPCC has put out like what 26 of these? all pointing to dire existential planet ending prospects without action (and none will be taken that arent just veiled wealth transfer projects) and the IMF pits out one doomsday book with the consequences being “you will not make more money all the time forever without coordinated broad action” so of course they will instantly take coordinated and broad action. lmao.
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