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guidoanselmi: Feb 6, 2008; I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

Horseshoe theory posted:

Will Ben-Gvir have the same trajectory as Ernst R�hm?

Does he have a crush on Netanyahu, too?

# ? Mar 27, 2023 22:42

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# ? May 25, 2024 20:23

Subvisual Haze: Nov 22, 2003; The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.

Israel getting color revolutioned was not a possibility I had given much thought to.

# ? Mar 27, 2023 22:50

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

Subvisual Haze posted:

Israel getting color revolutioned was not a possibility I had given much thought to.

the far-right religious parties absolutely threaten business interests but they've never been in government before until now iirc

# ? Mar 27, 2023 23:30

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Subvisual Haze posted:

Israel getting color revolutioned was not a possibility I had given much thought to.

This isn't that. Israeli politics is basically like Alabama or Mississippi state politics but without any preexisting federal protections for anyone.

# ? Mar 28, 2023 00:41

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

mcmagic posted:

This isn't that. Israeli politics is basically like Alabama or Mississippi state politics but without any preexisting federal protections for anyone.

yeah this is a decent analogy, like if the white church freaks there started passing laws from leviticus and the chamber of commerce flipped out. they both still hate black people

# ? Mar 28, 2023 01:14

PawParole: Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnMappin/status/1640296004699185153

https://mobile.twitter.com/Hezbolsonaro/status/1640473145856655360

# ? Mar 28, 2023 01:28

Horseshoe theory: Mar 7, 2005

i say swears online posted:

the far-right religious parties absolutely threaten business interests but they've never been in government before until now iirc

Yeah, they were basically Kingmakers rather than material minority members so they'll prop up Likud (and years ago, Mapai/Labour) in return for controlling the religious aspects of the government and unlimited money for their constituents to be in Yeshiva all day or whatever. This is the first coalition where they're big enough to have forced serious cabinet posts, etc. as part of the coalition forming with Bibi.

# ? Mar 28, 2023 01:38

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

All of these protests in Israel are just the crooks making sure they all get a share of the pie, this has nothing to do with any sort of humanity or democracy or anything like that. once this is over they'll happily go back to oppressing others.

My biggest wish is that netanyahu acts like an arab dictator and makes the situation far worse for israelis, because that's probably the shortest way forward for palestinian liberation, but sadly that probably wont happen and that once this is over they'll go back to happily being an apartheid poo poo hole. Sadly that shitstain country is not gonna collapse inwards.

# ? Mar 28, 2023 03:46

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

the elections of the last few years have produced such narrow majorities that i keep waiting for likud to ban nonzionist parties to free up a good 10% of the knesset for wiggle room

# ? Mar 28, 2023 05:07

AFancyQuestionMark: Feb 19, 2017; Long time no see.

i say swears online posted:

the elections of the last few years have produced such narrow majorities that i keep waiting for likud to ban nonzionist parties to free up a good 10% of the knesset for wiggle room

they try this each time, the courts stop them
when the judicial reform passes Balad and the communists are insta gone i think

# ? Mar 28, 2023 11:07

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

PawParole posted:

now that's mappin

# ? Mar 28, 2023 11:49

PERPETUAL IDIOT: Sep 12, 2003

Is there a good English article on what, concretely, the judicial reforms are?

# ? Mar 28, 2023 12:08

AFancyQuestionMark: Feb 19, 2017; Long time no see.

PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:

Is there a good English article on what, concretely, the judicial reforms are?

wikipedia is your best option probably

# ? Mar 28, 2023 12:52

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

I've been thinking about this for the last few days and the thing I keep coming back to is that even though it's not a complete 1 to 1 comparison because Israel doesn't have a constitution and we do, but I would 100% support the elimination of the SCOTUS. Why isn't it just a good thing that the supreme court in Israel isn't able to overturn anything that the elected representatives want to do just because they don't like it? The idea that the supreme court is supposed to act as some guardrail on the vile poo poo that the Israeli voters vote for their representatives to do is patchwork bullshit. Of course the Knesset doesn't actually represent all the people that they govern but the counterweight to that is supposed to be that hopefully the random people that are on the Israeli supreme court are less frothing fascists than the median Israeli voter?

# ? Mar 28, 2023 18:50

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

mcmagic posted:

I've been thinking about this for the last few days and the thing I keep coming back to is that even though it's not a complete 1 to 1 comparison because Israel doesn't have a constitution and we do, but I would 100% support the elimination of the SCOTUS. Why isn't it just a good thing that the supreme court in Israel isn't able to overturn anything that the elected representatives want to do just because they don't like it? The idea that the supreme court is supposed to act as some guardrail on the vile poo poo that the Israeli voters vote for their representatives to do is patchwork bullshit. Of course the Knesset doesn't actually represent all the people that they govern but the counterweight to that is supposed to be that hopefully the random people that are on the Israeli supreme court are less frothing fascists than the median Israeli voter?

bibi is doing it so that he cant be in trouble but many israelis are still waiting for him to be in trouble for some crimes he did a while ago.

# ? Mar 28, 2023 19:36

HallelujahLee: May 3, 2009

hasent he been under investigation for like years and years now

# ? Mar 28, 2023 19:40

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

yes, thats why last week they essentially gave the prime minister immunity by making sitting pms impossible to remove but now he needs the knesset to trump the supreme court so its ironclad in case they try and gently caress it up

# ? Mar 28, 2023 19:52

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

this op/ed covers it
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-crisis-not-about-democracy-liberal-zionist-supremacy

# ? Mar 28, 2023 19:53

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

the knesset is actually way more representative of israel's (citizen) population than the US's electoral system. it's just evidence how much they suck

# ? Mar 28, 2023 20:00

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

i say swears online posted:

the knesset is actually way more representative of israel's (citizen) population than the US's electoral system. it's just evidence how much they suck

# ? Mar 28, 2023 20:14

Terminal autist: May 17, 2018; by vyelkin

mcmagic posted:

I've been thinking about this for the last few days and the thing I keep coming back to is that even though it's not a complete 1 to 1 comparison because Israel doesn't have a constitution and we do, but I would 100% support the elimination of the SCOTUS. Why isn't it just a good thing that the supreme court in Israel isn't able to overturn anything that the elected representatives want to do just because they don't like it? The idea that the supreme court is supposed to act as some guardrail on the vile poo poo that the Israeli voters vote for their representatives to do is patchwork bullshit. Of course the Knesset doesn't actually represent all the people that they govern but the counterweight to that is supposed to be that hopefully the random people that are on the Israeli supreme court are less frothing fascists than the median Israeli voter?

Its all pointless bureaucratic bullshit that would have 0 practical impact on the average Israeli, the funny part is that millions will go out in the streets and general strike over it but loving crickets over everything else israel does. Perfect example of liberals as fascists

# ? Mar 29, 2023 01:11

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Terminal autist posted:

Its all pointless bureaucratic bullshit that would have 0 practical impact on the average Israeli, the funny part is that millions will go out in the streets and general strike over it but loving crickets over everything else israel does. Perfect example of liberals as fascists

I think it's somewhat likely that the state will become a little more theocratic but if it does Israeli voters are just reaping so i don't really care that much.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 03:12

30.5 Days: Nov 19, 2006

Bear Retrieval Unit posted:

the protestors got two months delay and in the meantime to appease the coalition the government is gonna create an official SA, which will be ready to beat on protestors in the next round. outstanding accomplishment in lib protest history.

not to put too fine a point on it but isn't this more or less the exact same trajectory Germany followed?

# ? Mar 29, 2023 06:35

guidoanselmi: Feb 6, 2008; I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

30.5 Days posted:

not to put too fine a point on it but isn't this more or less the exact same trajectory Germany followed?

Nation State Law came in a bit earlier than Nuremberg Laws if we�re comparing the sequence

# ? Mar 29, 2023 06:55

Grandpa Palpatine: Dec 13, 2019; by vyelkin

i say swears online posted:

the knesset is actually way more representative of israel's (citizen) population than the US's electoral system. it's just evidence how much they suck

This.

Israel is very democratic. It's just that 85-90% of its population are frothing at the mouth fascists who are mad they aren't genociding fast enough.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 07:32

Neurolimal: Nov 3, 2012

Last time they bombed Gaza the polls on whether it should continue were almost shockingly aligned with the % of non-arab residents in Israel

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:36

HallelujahLee: May 3, 2009

i dont think its very democratic to deny any real rights to 30% of your population

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:39

Bear Retrieval Unit: Nov 5, 2009; Mudslide Experiment

HallelujahLee posted:

i dont think its very democratic to deny any real rights to 30% of your population

it is when you have a baby's understanding of "democracy=whatever the majority wants goes".

# ? Mar 29, 2023 21:51

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!