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Liquid Communism posted:Trying to pitch this as 'why would people jamming in their garage want to be criticized' when a fair number of the posts here are 'look at all this custom artwork I want to use, but don't want to build the skills to create or pay someone who has for their time' is incredibly disingenuous. Nobody is going to give a rat's rear end if you use AI-art, or something you copy-pasted from Pinterest or Deviantart for that matter, for your home game. Nobody except the multiple people who have attacked people for exactly that in the last page of this thread, you mean?
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Mar 27, 2023 07:59
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None of the artists are entitled to me buying anything from them though. No one was ever entitled to use me as a writer or publish my writing. In that element of the debate (and that element only, not every anology is meant to encompass every part of a whole debate. Like the synthesizer thing, it's similar in that a lot of more traditional musicians exploded about it being a soulless "not real" music but not necessarily other parts) it'd be like saying Linux is illicit because it takes away from Windows Server sales, and that people should buy a Windows license just because, regardless of whether Linux does what they want easier or better.
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Mar 27, 2023 08:17
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I stream my games, via a VTT, so for me, being able to knock up a AI portrait for a throwaway NPC is better than my old method of stealing someones literal art from the internet. I only felt slightly guilty about the latter (it's not like I make any money off my streams), so having the AI allows me more customization and less guilt.
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Mar 27, 2023 08:45
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No less guilt, it's the same thing with an intermediary slightly more complex than the usual google search for 'd&d dwarf character portrait'.
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Mar 27, 2023 10:13
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Thread is just full of garbage people now. Unbookmark. People wonder why the forum is dying? These lovely people and a complete lack of reasonable moderation, full stop.
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I am currently running an OSR funhouse dungeon module called Magical Murder Mansion and I generated some magical paintings for the Art Gallery room within. They're all pretty sloppy, because they're all throwaway one-off gags, but I still like 'em. Spoilers for the module ahead!  Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. Small pink jellybean floating in red-orange space, tethered by some sort of cord. Touching the painting de-ages a person by 2d20 years. Adjust stats accordingly. If a person’s age drops below 0 they cease to exist. This effect only works 3 times. Surprisingly hard to generate. Settled for this bullshit.  The Fallen Madonna. Young woman wearing a very-far- off-the-shoulder red dress. If anyone approaches within 1’ or tries to move the portait, she scoffs and says, “Hands off!”. On a second attempt, “I’m warning you.” On a third, “You asked for it,” as she pulls out a wand of pigmented lightning (50' cone, 4d6 lightning damage, Save for half, targets are deafened for 1hr). The painting will not answer questions. After firing the wand, the woman in the painting storms off, decreasing the painting’s value to 20gp.  Picnic Scene. A group of well-dressed picnickers on a hillside are menaced by giant ants. The picnic basket is real and can be removed or tipped out of the painting. It contains three ham sandwiches, a bottle of sweet white wine, and a small pot of mustard. Had to inpaint a lovely-rear end basket separately.   Hubert Nibsley in Repose. The wizard (whose mansion the PCs are burglarizing in his absence) lounges on a plush green sofa, nude behind a strategically placed fern. His smile is insufferably smug. Anyone within 20' who looks at the painting must Save or stare at it until they complement Hubert. Affected people are aware of this. Nibsley is an obnoxious narcissist who is exhibit A for the "wizards have no sense of right or wrong" meme. I generated the photo-looking one first and decided what's going on here is that it's too hyper-real for the reality that PCs are in so that's what confuddles them. The regular art version is what they start seeing when they snap out of it.  The Curious Monolith. Metal post in the middle of a sun- dappled snowy forest. The first person to touch the painting is sucked in and vanishes for 1 round. They emerge 2d10 years older, fully healed, and gain enough XP to reach the next level. They have hazy memories of a “magical forest ” and being elected “monarch of the muskrat people”. From their point of view, they were in the painting for a very long time.  Sunset Styles. Large orange sun glitters over the spires of a distant city. The painting glows as brightly as a torch. Its light has all the properties of natural sunlight (burns vampires, grows plants, etc.).  Twilight on the Honsu River. Broad expanse of water with tiny stylized boats. Sails appear to wave; water appears to ripple. Tilting or moving the painted causes tidal waves, tiny stylized shipwrecks.  The End. Streams of multicoloured paint flow towards a central black spot the size of an apple. The spot is painted with paint of annihilation. Anything that touches it, aside from the canvas it is painted on, is destroyed.
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Mar 27, 2023 12:39
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So, here is an experiment with temporalNet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlAsQ6gkzlE. Its really good with people, but still not very good with a lot of backgrounds. (I used wav2lip for lip syncing). We are getting closer to being able to producing good video. -edit oops posted this in the wrong thread. IShallRiseAgain fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Mar 27, 2023 |
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Mar 27, 2023 14:10
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I'm looking for a LORA for Orcs or half orcs. It's actually remarkably hard to get a model to generate a good orc that doesn't look plasticy. If anyone has any recc's, let me know. edit: well this didn't exist 2 weeks ago, but now it does. Ok, nevermind: https://civitai.com/models/19597/orc-diffusion
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Mar 27, 2023 20:04
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PlaysGamesWrong posted:Thread is just full of garbage people now. Unbookmark. Nah. The training of AIs on copyrighted content without permission is problematic and it'd be gross to disallow anyone from saying so. I have been playing with these tools myself, I'm currently on the side of "for private use this is basically OK, although the AI companies need to compensate the content owners they're training their tools on" but I don't get to impose my personal ethical stances on the whole forum. There's been a little bit of basically attacks, but there's been reasoned rebuttal and the people who are actually posting projects, like Megazver, are clearly still able to do so; and I've issued a probation in the last few days for posting insults that went beyond critique of the technology or its uses and slipped into attacking posters. I would encourage you to try posting projects here too.
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Mar 27, 2023 20:54
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There's literally a thread to discuss ethics of AI and crap like that. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4027671
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Mar 27, 2023 22:27
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Yeah I encourage folks to go there, but, not everyone is willing or interested in being restricted by D&D forums' formality/posting rules and I'm sensitive to that.
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Mar 27, 2023 22:56
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Y'all are using AI wrong if you're not asking it to explain everything to you in the voice of Stone Cold Steve Austinquote:Can you explain opportunity attacks in Dungeons and Dragons in the style of Stone Cold Steve Austin?
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Mar 28, 2023 15:04
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Macho Man would be better but I doubt the AI could do it. He has a very...unique*...rhythm. *cocaine-based
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Macho Man would be better but I doubt the AI could do it. He has a very...unique*...rhythm. quote:now can you do it like Macho Man Randy Savage? The first time I asked it to re-write something (my annual review) in the style of Stone Cold it typed in all caps, not sure why it's doing proper capitalization now.
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Mar 29, 2023 05:13
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Bucnasti posted:The first time I asked it to re-write something (my annual review) in the style of Stone Cold it typed in all caps, not sure why it's doing proper capitalization now.  AI has peaked. Shut it all down.
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Mar 29, 2023 13:18
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Yeah, shut it down before you try three more prompts and see the same phrases repeat in the same positions. It's The Cycle of having fun with a large language model
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Mar 29, 2023 14:01
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Make it describe the PF2 action economy but in the style of the VHS open-palm slap meme and we’ll talk.
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Mar 29, 2023 14:59
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I think it misunderstood "attacks of opportunity" but w/e.Sir David Attenborough posted:Ah! here we are in the mystical world of Dungeons and Dragons, a place teeming with a variety of creatures and opportunities for combat. As we venture forth, we observe that there are many ways for adventurers to engage in battle. Voiced clip:https://voca.ro/1meWyL2qpaU2
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Comrade Koba posted:Make it describe the PF2 action economy but in the style of the VHS open-palm slap meme and we’ll talk. the VHS open-palm slap meme posted:EVERY SESSION I SIT DOWN AND PREPARE FOR ADVENTURE. I OPEN MY BOOK AND READ THROUGH THE RULES. IT'S PATHFINDER 2E, AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START PLANNING MY TACTICS. I GO THROUGH EVERY OPTION AND I GO THROUGH THEM HARD. MAKING SOUND EFFECTS WHEN I ROLL DICE OR WHEN I LAND A CRITICAL HIT. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY FOUGHT A DRAGON AND SURVIVED. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUT LOUD EVERY TIME I TELL THE STORY TO MY FRIENDS, AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE THAT PEOPLE CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND I'VE LEARNED ALL THE RULES AND I'VE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY TABLE LESS BORING BY ROLEPLAYING. 4 HOURS INCLUDING BREAKS EVERY SESSION. THEN I LEVEL UP. Trying to get something more descriptive quote:"EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS PATHFINDER 2E RULEBOOK, AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START PLANNING MY MOVES ALONGSIDE MY CHARACTER, WHO'S READY FOR BATTLE. I DECIDE WHAT ACTIONS I'LL TAKE - STRIKE, CAST A SPELL, RAISE A SHIELD, TAKE COVER - AND I DO IT WITH PURPOSE. I CONSIDER THE ACTIONS AVAILABLE TO ME IN THE THREE-ACTION SYSTEM, AND I MAKE SURE TO USE THEM ALL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY'VE MASTERED PATHFINDER 2E'S ACTION ECONOMY. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY GAMING GROUP AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN GAMING GROUPS CAN STILL BE IMPRESSED BY TACTICAL THINKING. AND I'VE LEARNED ALL THE OPTIONS AND I'VE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY CHARACTER MORE EFFECTIVE BY UTILIZING THEM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING CHARACTER CREATION EVERY SESSION. THEN I ROLL THE DICE!" YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Mar 29, 2023 |
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It's a little disheartening to me that the "then I lift" ending, which wasn't in the original, got into the AI. I guess that's par for the course. edit: typo Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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Where should I go to get a foundation in writing good Midjourney prompts? The GBS thread, despite its name, stopped posting its prompts a while ago, and it was never terribly disciplined about it. I've fiddled around with it enough to have some rough ideas, but I don't get anywhere near the results that other people are posting. It's only gotten worse recently, too: I'm having a devil of a time getting it to generate a person without a horribly mangled face, for some reason.
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Kestral posted:Where should I go to get a foundation in writing good Midjourney prompts? The GBS thread, despite its name, stopped posting its prompts a while ago, and it was never terribly disciplined about it. I've fiddled around with it enough to have some rough ideas, but I don't get anywhere near the results that other people are posting. It's only gotten worse recently, too: I'm having a devil of a time getting it to generate a person without a horribly mangled face, for some reason. I only know Stable Diffusion, but what changed the terrible faces problem I had was upscaling (latent I think?) during image generation. It might also be fixed by increasing the output resolution in general, but I didn't try that because my machine has tiny compute. I don't know if there are options to upscale during generation in Midjourney though. For an example, the upscaling took me from getting results like this  to this  with the exact same prompt. So it was more technical detail than prompt writing. I don't use any negative prompting relating to the face, but I do usually put "detailed face and eyes" in the regular prompt. But who knows, that could make a differnce. So... good luck  I'm happy to help more if you want. I can grab some more details with my work flow once I'm done with work.
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drat I like that design. 
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Kestral posted:Where should I go to get a foundation in writing good Midjourney prompts? The GBS thread, despite its name, stopped posting its prompts a while ago, and it was never terribly disciplined about it. I've fiddled around with it enough to have some rough ideas, but I don't get anywhere near the results that other people are posting. It's only gotten worse recently, too: I'm having a devil of a time getting it to generate a person without a horribly mangled face, for some reason. I just use their documentation, some experimentation, and YouTube videos for specific issues I'm having. https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/prompts Strange you're having issues with faces, since the new engine is much better at them than the last. Have some examples?
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I don't know anything about Midjourney, but in Stable Diffusion all my best faces have been from inpainting at a higher res starting with lower (.3) diffusion. The initial image generation is mostly good for style and general comp, after that you need to target the problem areas (faces, eyes, teeth, hands) as a rule.
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I struggled to figure out how to fix a macro I found online for FoundryVTT and ChatGPT fixed me right up in seconds. 
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ChatGPT is quite good at writing and debugging simple code.
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ChatGPT has definitely enhanced my homebrew DnD stuff, I’ll have a window open when I’m writing and man has it helped me flesh stuff out as a novice DM.
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Wangsucker 69 posted:ChatGPT has definitely enhanced my homebrew DnD stuff, I’ll have a window open when I’m writing and man has it helped me flesh stuff out as a novice DM. This for sure. I even use it on the fly during games. My players encountered a mercenary and I wanted him to have a unique magic shield so I asked ChatGPT to generate one, it gave me a cool idea for a shield that could reflect spells. So I used it, the merc even triggered the ability during the combat and surprised the gently caress outta the warlock. Then afterwards when the players went to identify it I asked ChatGPT to give me a cool name for it and it suggested "Shield of the Twilight Guardian". It also understands stuff like 5 Room Dungeons formats, and Sly Flourishes' Lazy DM "Secrets", so you can tell it. "Give me a dungeon in the format of a Five Room Dungeon that takes place in ..." or "Generate 10 Lazy Dungeon Master Secrets for my next adventure that takes place in ...."
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In a campaign of mine, the father of one of the characters works in the government and he is being blackmailed by a criminal organization for documents. It was an idea of the player, mostly an excuse to bring the character back in the city at the beginning of the campaign. I wanted to connect the organization to a major plot point involving a coup... And the chat suggested me to make the father of the PC to be the material executor of the king assassination, still under blackmail. An obvious idea, but it really didn't come to me.
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Chat GPT isn’t bad at coming up with rulesets … I asked for a system for a mad max / car wars kind of vehicle combat system. At first it just reskinned D&D using d20s so I asked it to make a d6 based system instead. Not bad. Certainly could be used as a starting point for something. quote:
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I've started experimenting with Microsoft Bing's new in built AI chat for work stuff and have now started playing around with some ttrpg things too. Bing is based on ChatGPT4 which is so far proving to be a big improvement on what GPT3 (the current public facing free version) was giving me before. It needs a lot less massaging to get something useful to run at the table. The below examples are all using the 'Compose' tab, - not the default Chat window - with the settings on 'Enthusastic' tone and medium length. My Prompt: A starting scenario for a one shot game of the Scum & Villainy RPG. Please include a main antagonist who the players can defeat or outmanoeuvre in some way. Bing posted:You are a crew of scoundrels and rogues, living on the edge of the law in a galaxy ruled by the Hegemony, a tyrannical and oppressive regime. You have a ship, a base, and a reputation to uphold among the criminal underworld. You take on jobs that no one else dares to, from smuggling contraband to raiding corporate facilities. You have a knack for getting into trouble and getting out of it by the skin of your teeth. Other than the rote intro paragraph, that is actually a pretty solid and workable idea for an introductory one shot and something I could definitely run with at short notice. Second Prompt - this time set to the 'Ideas' setting rather than 'Paragraph': Design a sample combat encounter for a party of four players playing the 13th Age roleplaying game. The players are all level 5 and this should be a difficult double strength encounter. Include a named NPC leader villain and their minions. Also include some changing environmental effects that come into play depending on the value of the escalation die. Bing posted:- Here is one possible sample combat encounter: That's a pretty vanilla encounter - and it doesn't know that 13th Age enemies use fixed damage rather than rolling damage, or give attack bonus values for any of the Orcs. However, if you're GMing a game and have literally five minutes or less to build a battle it's not bad. Twenty seconds to type the prompt and then a minute or two to fudge the bonuses and you're all good. Third Prompt - back to Paragraph setting, but now on Long rather than Medium: Write up a description of a location for the Call of Cthullu roleplaying game. Include at least three named NPCs associated with the location. Describe what the terrible evil secret the location is harbouring is and ways the players may first discover it and then try to defeat it. Bing posted:The Old Mill is a seemingly abandoned building on the outskirts of Arkham, Massachusetts. It was once a thriving flour mill, but it closed down after a series of mysterious fires and accidents in the late 19th century. Now it stands as a dilapidated ruin, surrounded by overgrown weeds and a foul-smelling stream. Again, a fairly rote and generic CoC adventure but definitely workable and something that I could easily improvise off and run a one shot from. If I was due to GM a session in the next ten minutes that for some reason I had done absolutely no prep for and had no inspiration for either (it happens more often than you may think!) I can reliably get something gameable from Bing/ChatGPT4 in thirty seconds flat. Then I can either build off it myself, or use the AI to drill down a bit deeper asking it to build out specifics. Either way, it seems to me that already in the last three months or so it's come on leaps and bounds for using in it in TTRPG content generation going from something that takes a lot of work to mould something gameable from to a reliable tool.
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Made some portraits for a SHIVER RPG zombie apocalypse one-shot pregenerated characters: Security Guard, Rodent Researcher, Mailroom Worker    HR Guy, Janitor, Intern    Psychic Experiment Girl, Sleazy Corpo, Old Scientist Who'll Infodump Then Die   
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Megazver posted:Made some portraits for a SHIVER RPG zombie apocalypse one-shot pregenerated characters: These are awesome! What model and prompt did you use for them?
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Thanks! Standard MJ, the prompt for this style would be: "a X-year-old [gender] [ethnicity maybe] [description of character], [colors] palette, clipart, pop art, flat shaded, clean and sharp inking, high contrast chiaroscuro portraits" The color thing is system specific - SHIVER uses funky d6s that have six different symbols for the six stats on them and there's an Archetype (class/playbook) for each stat.   So Talisa the rodent scientist is a Scholar and her main stat is Smarts which is yellow, so the portrait is yellow. (I've changed the colors a bit for Grit and Heart portraits, from amber and red to red and pink.) I'm very proud of thinking of this color thing, I am very smart.
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Also ran a one-shot of Frontier Scum, which is this very cool Mork Borg-influenced rules-light weird west OSR system. The rulebook's aesthetic is off the chain, you should check it out:   There were no pregens for it, but creating a character is one-click with this cool character generator, so I just generated some portraits for my players to choose from. Now the cool new feature MJ has is that you can feed it a picture and it will tell you what it thinks some of the keywords for that picture would be. It doesn't work all that well atm, but you can still pluck out some useful bits out of it. I started off by taking an image from the rulebook and asked MJ to /describe it:  Then I cobbled together some of the keywords from those sample prompts into this: "black and white drawing portrait of [character description], in the style of clowncore, high contrast chiaroscuro portraits, pulp comics, gritty horror comics, intricate use of hatching, dark black and white, lithuanian linocut, rubén maya, ronald balfour, felicien rops" And generated some grids for my players to pick from:             (My apologies for the heft of the images, I did what I could.) I like this style, it's ugly and sinister in a good way. Megazver fucked around with this message at 11:24 on May 5, 2023 |
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That is a good prompt and I'll abuse the gently caress out of It for horror characters
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A discussion of rules about posting about AIs has begun in the feedback thread, beginning with this post. I encourage folks to participate. Please try to remain civil.
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Why yes, I would love to get dogpiled by a bunch of hostile, bad faith neckbeards who don't actually understand what they're having a moral panic about, but are aggressive enough about it that they try to muscle over the forum rules to screw with anyone who disagrees about this contentious issue instead of having polite discussion or agreeing to disagree. If no one takes you up on this generous offer, I think it won't be because there is no one who disagrees with the mob, but because, frankly, "hey there's a witch hunt happening over there, would you like to be the witch?" feels unsafe and I am a little disappointed by how you're handling this. The only I'll add to this is that no, I don't think this should be a rule. Enjoy your discussion.
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