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I just used Total Commander's search function. It took a bit to run through the whole drive, but I've never had it not find a file that existed.
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i'm sure it's good or whatever but Everything is a loving obnoxious name
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repiv posted:https://twitter.com/gf_256/status/1640100620228083713 3.4 GB on my Linux install, with 12/17 being for JetBrains IDEs, 1 being Steam, 1 being Steam VR, 2 being from a game from GOG, and the last one being Minecraft. Steam VR is the largest one at 705MB and the JetBrains ones being 191MB. Are any of these even electron? Most of them are just embedded browsers I think.
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Vanadium posted:Do I really need to download a third party app to do a search for a given filename on my local disk now? I haven't really understood how to use file search in Windows for a while now but I assumed that was a me problem. PowerShell code:
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6.2 GB in 63 copies. That's a whole 0.34% of my disk space! onoz
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Flagrama posted:3.4 GB on my Linux install, with 12/17 being for JetBrains IDEs, 1 being Steam, 1 being Steam VR, 2 being from a game from GOG, and the last one being Minecraft. Steam VR is the largest one at 705MB and the JetBrains ones being 191MB. Are any of these even electron? Most of them are just embedded browsers I think. I believe apps that use electron embed it fully now so you won’t see libcef.dll with those eg I know for a fact VS code and MS teams use it and they don’t have libcef.dll.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Windows search is, and has been dogshit since actually forever. I was writing a program that needs to search through about 100,000 filenames recently and I thought it would be unbearably slow, because searching for filenames in windows explorer on that scale takes several minutes. But the search implemented in the program took some tens of milliseconds lol.
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Spatial posted:It's so goddamn slow too. Same. I don't know how it's so slow and lovely. I've literally just done a recursive DIR command on a directory, output to file and ctrl-f to find a file and it was faster than windows search.
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Speaking of bad search, how about Outlook on a Mac? Mine is awful and seems to often be missing the last day of emails. If I do the same search on the web interface, it works fine, so I suspect Spotlight is involved.
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Mar 29, 2023 12:23
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Jen heir rick posted:Same. I don't know how it's so slow and lovely. I've literally just done a recursive DIR command on a directory, output to file and ctrl-f to find a file and it was faster than windows search. At a guess, passing each file through a couple functions to index and load icons, file associations, etc. Some (all?) files are opened and read to generate previews. It's super wasteful and could be done more intelligently, but I can totally see how it can happen.
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smackfu posted:So I suspect Spotlight is involved. Yeah spotlight sucks just as much as windows search. Which is crazy, because back in the macos 9 days, when it was called sherlock, search was instantaneous and actually searched your entire harddrive. Of course it only searched file names, but I have literally never found it useful to search contents on local search. Maybe that's the problem. I start typing "the.." and it tries to show me every file that has ever been written. Real useful.
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Kazinsal posted:6.2 GB in 63 copies. That's a whole 0.34% of my disk space! onoz The real pain is when they’re all loaded in to memory.
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Just throwing in a recommendation for PowerToys for Windows, particularly PowerToys Run, which is just spotlight search for Windows. Except it's not as lovely as the inbuilt Windows search. It's probably not great either but at least when I type in the name of an application I get the loving application reliably
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Macichne Leainig posted:Just throwing in a recommendation for PowerToys for Windows, particularly PowerToys Run, which is just spotlight search for Windows. Except it's not as lovely as the inbuilt Windows search. PowerToys Run is really good, especially the way it lets you do things like prefix with $ to search control panel settings, : for registry, ! for services, etc
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Mar 29, 2023 15:44
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Shockingly only 2 copies of libcef.dll on my entire pc, but theyre both the exact same in two different subfolders in the adobe acrobat reader install directory 
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Mar 29, 2023 15:58
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I should find all of mine, hardlink them all to one copy, and see what happens
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Mar 29, 2023 16:13
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Why is it called libcef.dll and not something more descriptive? I am a big fan of terse names, but I don't get the point of terseness for things you will not regularly type, but which you might need to spot in lists.
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Athas posted:Why is it called libcef.dll and not something more descriptive? I am a big fan of terse names, but I don't get the point of terseness for things you will not regularly type, but which you might need to spot in lists.
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Jen heir rick posted:but I have literally never found it useful to search contents on local search. Maybe that's the problem. I start typing "the.." and it tries to show me every file that has ever been written. Real useful. I regularly do content search on local files, but it absolutely should not be the default behaviour of search.
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Volte posted:It's the Chromium Embedded Framework library (CEF) so it seems reasonable to me. I don't think anyone names their libraries according to whether you're going to need to spot it in a list. Maybe they should. There is nothing gained by calling it libcef.dll instead of libChromiumEmbedded.dll or whatever, and the latter saves you from having to look up what cef means. It's not like you type this name often while programming. I think I have found the obscure complaint that I will build my grave on.
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Athas posted:Maybe they should. There is nothing gained by calling it libcef.dll instead of libChromiumEmbedded.dll or whatever, and the latter saves you from having to look up what cef means. It's not like you type this name often while programming. I think I have found the obscure complaint that I will build my grave on. 
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If you wanna get mad about nondescriptive dll names in common use, look no further than libeay32.dll it's OpenSSL, of course
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CEF is a particular software library, it’s not Electron, and it’s not Blink inside Qt5/6. They all have the same function, but the former interfaces to C++, the middle to JavaScript, and the latter to QML and C++ as part of the Qt ecosystem. CEF is also not managed by the Chromium team, it’s an independent project. Steam is a big user of CEF and Spotify is the primary sponsor of Electron. Qt is a commercial library that charges for commercial usage. MrMoo fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Mar 29, 2023 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:I believe apps that use electron embed it fully now so you won’t see libcef.dll with those eg I know for a fact VS code and MS teams use it and they don’t have libcef.dll. Well, Linux doesn't use static linking very often, so if an application is using libcef it's usually either using my system's or it's own provided libcef.so. As for Electron apps, makes more sense to search for .asar files, but I'd have to actually parse them. A lot of packages on Arch Linux for example rip out embedded Electron and enforce use of system Electron installs instead. So I think the list is pretty accurate, just missing a number of my base electron library installs. I'm using Discord with my electron21 install and that's the only Electron app I have installed right now from what I see. I prefer to use most Electron apps in-browser.
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Xarn posted:I regularly do content search on local files, but it absolutely should not be the default behaviour of search. Yeah, I've always found it annoying that I have to specify I want to search by name first.Though I've always liked Spotlight (not the Finder search, but the one you get with command+space) as a way to launch applications I don't have on my Dock, a quick calculator, or a unit converter. Macichne Leainig posted:Just throwing in a recommendation for PowerToys for Windows, particularly PowerToys Run, which is just spotlight search for Windows. Except it's not as lovely as the inbuilt Windows search. Funny, I never seem to have trouble finding what application I want with the Taskbar search. zergstain fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Mar 29, 2023 |
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zergstain posted:Funny, I never seem to have trouble finding what application I want with the Taskbar search. It usually finds the right app, it just has a bad habit of suggesting something else instead for me 
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My favourite Windows start menu search behaviour (which thankfully seems to be fixed in Win11) was typing "VLC" and the first highlighted result was "VLC media player - reset preferences and cache files" instead of the main application.
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microsoft is sort of trying to solve the packaged chromium on windows with WebView2, which will use system-installed Edge (so, Chromium) by default. applications can still choose to package a specific version if they're concerned about updates breaking the apps, though teams is moving to it. i laughed very hard when i saw a headline saying "Teams Preview Ditches Electron!!" and thought "oh wow microsoft must have finally built a native UI framework they like enough to actually build software in it again" and no of course not they've just moved from Angular to React and Electron to WebView2 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams-blog/microsoft-teams-advantages-of-the-new-architecture/ba-p/3775704
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I'm searching with some good oldfashioned dir libcef.dll /S in cmd. Works for me.
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Volte posted:My favourite Windows start menu search behaviour (which thankfully seems to be fixed in Win11) was typing "VLC" and the first highlighted result was "VLC media player - reset preferences and cache files" instead of the main application. W10 still seems to use some kind of unpredictable/unstable search ranking function. If I type "Ch" the first result is "Google Chrome", but if I then continue and type "Chr" it replaces the first result with my "Google Chrome Guest mode" shortcut -- it replaced the original #1 match despite it still being an exact result. Similarly, a search of "volum" pops up "Adjust Volume -- system settings" in the control panel, but "volume" brings up "Sound mixer options" instead. 
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Why are some of you pretending like you can't just open a bash shell and run `find` on your Windows system? Here's a fun one: quote:./Windows/Installer/$PatchCache$/Managed/68AB67CA9125123412342CB5110E47A00/21.1.20135/libcef.dll What the gently caress, Windows???
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abraham linksys posted:microsoft is sort of trying to solve the packaged chromium on windows with WebView2, which will use system-installed Edge (so, Chromium) by default. applications can still choose to package a specific version if they're concerned about updates breaking the apps, though oh and naturally the internet is now filled with "how can i use webview2 from activex" and there are wrappers for it now. Imagine four balls on the edge of a cliff...
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QuarkJets posted:Why are some of you pretending like you can't just open a bash shell and run `find` on your Windows system? What's weird about that? That's Acrobat backing up the files it's replacing when you run the MSI.
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QuarkJets posted:Why are some of you pretending like you can't just open a bash shell and run `find` on your Windows system? Wipfmetz fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7nnXej2K4
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Holy poo poo imagine being proud of a 9.1 second launch time Edit: Unless it's like, a space ship I guess.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:W10 still seems to use some kind of unpredictable/unstable search ranking function. If I type "Ch" the first result is "Google Chrome", but if I then continue and type "Chr" it replaces the first result with my "Google Chrome Guest mode" shortcut -- it replaced the original #1 match despite it still being an exact result. I think the idea is that if you kept typing, then the result isn't what you wanted, which is dumb as hell because you would have to finger-peck for it to bring up results in time for you to read them as you typed anyways
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Less Fat Luke posted:Holy poo poo imagine being proud of a 9.1 second launch time Hey man, it's a chat program. Do you know how hard it is to write a chat program? Cut them some slack, that's a complicated piece of software.
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Wipfmetz posted:... because FIND searches through filecontents, not filenames. You want DIR for that one. In bash?
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dougdrums posted:I think the idea is that if you kept typing, then the result isn't what you wanted, which is dumb as hell because you would have to finger-peck for it to bring up results in time for you to read them as you typed anyways That was my guess too. "Hey we're returning results within 1ms, we can do this!" Cut to responses no longer appearing within 1ms.
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