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Warmachine: Jan 30, 2012

tater_salad posted:

but with less fetishes / furries.

yes, that's it, what the metaverse needs is furry and fetish art buy-in

brb spooling up a rug pull

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 13:25

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Warmachine posted:

yes, that's it, what the metaverse needs is furry and fetish art buy-in

brb spooling up a rug pull

I mean, yeah?

Frankly I'd rather hang out in the online space where people can be their weird selves rather than the corporately sanitized one where someone will earn a time out for implying that gay people exist, but some red hat moron can post whatever they want as long as they don't drop one of a small handful of very obvious slurs.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 17:08

Heffer: May 1, 2003

The black widow movie had it's big action scenes already in CGI production before they even had a script. Just had to spackle on enough plot to connect the big scenes.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 17:45

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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quote:

Volusia County principal resigns after sending $100K to scammer posing as Elon Musk

OAK HILL, Fla. � The longtime principal of a charter school in southeast Volusia County resigned under fire Tuesday night after it was discovered she wrote a $100,000 check out of the school's account to an Internet scammer posing as Elon Musk.

�I love this school more than anything else. If it means your administration is going to stay, I'm turning in my resignation,� principal Jan McGee said.

McGee has been the principal of Burns Science and Technology in Oak Hill since it opened in 2011. The school, with just under 1,000 students, is A-rated and has a huge waiting list.

McGee claims she was scammed online by a fake Elon Musk after spending months talking to this person in hopes of getting the space pioneer to invest millions in the school in exchange for a $100,000 upfront investment.

The school's business manager got wind of what happened and canceled the check before it was cashed, but at a sometimes chaotic and packed school board meeting Tuesday night, other school administrators say McGee was repeatedly warned it was a scam and laid out other issues they say led to a toxic work environment.

When they said they could no longer work under McGee, she resigned and left the building.

https://twitter.com/WESH/status/1640919467235463169

# ? Mar 29, 2023 19:26

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

lol people were even warning her ahead of time it was a scam.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 19:31

knox_harrington: Feb 18, 2011; Running no point.

Aahaha gently caress yeah that's the stuff

# ? Mar 29, 2023 19:48

Bird in a Blender: Nov 17, 2005; It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

At least the check was cancelled before it was cashed, but how the hell can a principal write a check for that much money without board approval first?

# ? Mar 29, 2023 19:52

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

I wish the emails were public so I could see what this woman thought Elon Musk needed $100,000 in a check made out to "CASH" mailed to a random P.O. box for before he could invest millions into the school.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 19:54

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

Bird in a Blender posted:

At least the check was cancelled before it was cashed, but how the hell can a principal write a check for that much money without board approval first?

It's a "charter" school, which means they've cut away all that wasteful and unnecessary bureaucracy and regulations, like the oversight that would keep someone from writing a six-figure check for an obvious scam.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:01

Blotto_Otter: Aug 16, 2013

Bird in a Blender posted:

At least the check was cancelled before it was cashed, but how the hell can a principal write a check for that much money without board approval first?

Simple: by walking over to the safe or locked desk drawer where they keep the blank check stock, unlocking it, and pulling out a blank check.

She probably wasn't allowed to do that, but this smells like a "seek forgiveness rather than permission" kinda move that immediately backfired on her because she had been talking about it so much that the business manager was on guard against her pulling a stupid stunt like that. Good internal controls only matter but so much when the head honcho for an organization decides to go rogue and yeet a massive check out there in violation of both your normal procedures and any semblance of common sense.

e:

FMguru posted:

It's a "charter" school, which means they've cut away all that wasteful and unnecessary bureaucracy and regulations, like the oversight that would keep someone from writing a six-figure check for an obvious scam.

this too. turns out that all that liberal nanny-state bureaucracy of a big school district, which an individual charter school does away with, also makes it harder for principals run around writing checks for obvious scams

e2:

the actual article posted:

The principal had authorization to write a check up to $50,000 out of the account but no more without board approval, which she did not get. Fortunately, the school's business manager, Brent Appy got wind and stopped the check before it cleared.

also, lol:

quote:

�I am a very smart lady. Well-educated. I fell for a scam,� McGee said.

McGee told a packed audience she was taken in by a fake Elon Musk, someone posing online as the space pioneer. Someone she'd been talking with for at least four months despite being warned by staff that the person was a fraud. She claims he groomed her.

�Grooming is when you talk to somebody and you believe in them, and they get you to trust them that this is really real, and so I fell for it,� McGee said.

For years, principal McGee talked to anyone who would listen about getting Musk and his money involved in the STEM school, a stone's throw from the Space Coast, and apparently thought she'd finally gotten his ear.

�Somehow she believed it,� board chair Albert Amalfitano said. �He must have been really convincing.�

Blotto_Otter fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 29, 2023

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:08

LanceHunter: Nov 12, 2016; Beautiful People Club

Thankfully the school didn't have any crypto.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:12

Strong Sauce: Jul 2, 2003; You know I am not really your father.

honestly loving lol that even after a bunch of people told her not to do it.. she did it anyways. what is the thinking there, "ah yeah people telling me that's not elon musk.. but i think it's elon musk and he needs to be bribed $100K to come here to our charter school. makes sense that a billionaire would care about $100K that's why they're billionaires"

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:15

Martman: Nov 20, 2006

I hope she still finds a way to send the same scammer money even after all this

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:31

AmiYumi: Oct 10, 2005; I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG

Strong Sauce posted:

honestly loving lol that even after a bunch of people told her not to do it.. she did it anyways. what is the thinking there, "ah yeah people telling me that's not elon musk.. but i think it's elon musk and he needs to be bribed $100K to come here to our charter school. makes sense that a billionaire would care about $100K that's why they're billionaires"

That�s the most believable part of the scam - the richest people on Earth are the most petty demanding pieces of poo poo, and stay that way by refusing to spend their hoarded wealth and shaking down everyone they meet.

Honestly, the scammer hosed up, they made it look too real.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:38

bob dobbs is dead: Oct 8, 2017; I love peeps; Nap Ghost

there are tasteful rich peeps but elon musk aint one of em

thats why hes such a favored impersonation target

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:45

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

AmiYumi posted:

That�s the most believable part of the scam - the richest people on Earth are the most petty demanding pieces of poo poo, and stay that way by refusing to spend their hoarded wealth and shaking down everyone they meet.

Honestly, the scammer hosed up, they made it look too real.

While I agree with your disdain for billionaires, anyone asking for you to send them cash and in return they'll give back an order of magnitude more is 100% a scam, every single time. If some philanthropist wants to be a petty, demanding piece of poo poo they do it by basically treating the transaction as them purchasing something -naming a building after them, letting them veto curricula items they don't like, teaching classes in the weird thing they're obsessed with, etc.

Like, the actual Musk move would be to make them teach only libertarian economic theory and have an annual essay competition about how emerald mining in apartheid states is cool and good.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:47

raminasi: Jan 25, 2005; a last drink with no ice

Strong Sauce posted:

honestly loving lol that even after a bunch of people told her not to do it.. she did it anyways. what is the thinking there, "ah yeah people telling me that's not elon musk.. but i think it's elon musk and he needs to be bribed $100K to come here to our charter school. makes sense that a billionaire would care about $100K that's why they're billionaires"

I would not be surprised if their warnings contributed to her doing it. They all thought she was a gullible idiot and she was going to prove them wrong.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:47

SpartanIvy: May 18, 2007; Hair Elf

It reads like it was a romance scam too.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:48

Sundae: Dec 1, 2005

SpartanIvy posted:

It reads like it was a romance scam too.

"Scent of Riches: The Musk of the Rogue"

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:54

LanceHunter: Nov 12, 2016; Beautiful People Club

All this scam talk is reminding me of the movie Compliance, which was a dramatization of one of the cases of the Mount Washington incident of the strip search phone call scam. The things that people can be talked into are, frankly, shocking.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 20:54

Admiralty Flag: Jun 7, 2007; to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

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LanceHunter posted:

All this scam talk is reminding me of the movie Compliance, which was a dramatization of one of the cases of the Mount Washington incident of the strip search phone call scam. The things that people can be talked into are, frankly, shocking.

I caught the SVU episode based on this once (Scott Adsit was the McDonald's manager who strip-searched the employee and Robin Williams was the scammer!). Never realized it was based on a true story, but I should have guessed.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 21:17

Cacafuego: Jul 22, 2007

SpartanIvy posted:

It reads like it was a romance scam too.

This was my immediate thought as well

# ? Mar 29, 2023 21:26

The junk collector: Aug 10, 2005; Hey do you want that motherboard?

Warmachine posted:

yes, that's it, what the metaverse needs is furry and fetish art buy-in

brb spooling up a rug pull

That's called VRChat and it's actually pretty successful.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 21:35

itskage: Aug 26, 2003

raminasi posted:

I would not be surprised if their warnings contributed to her doing it. They all thought she was a gullible idiot and she was going to prove them wrong.

This. This is the most based explanation for me. If the past decade has taught me anything, it's people will do anything and everything to avoid the shame of being wrong.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 21:36

YOUR UNCOOL NIECE: May 6, 2007; Kanga-Rat Murder Society

SpartanIvy posted:

It reads like it was a romance scam too.

It would be way crazier if it somehow *wasn't*

# ? Mar 29, 2023 21:39

Raskolnikov2089: Nov 3, 2006; Schizzy to the matic

LanceHunter posted:

All this scam talk is reminding me of the movie Compliance, which was a dramatization of one of the cases of the Mount Washington incident of the strip search phone call scam. The things that people can be talked into are, frankly, shocking.

Those aren't even the all that :wtf:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pranknet

"" posted:

In February 2009, "Dex" and a member called "Slayer" called a KFC restaurant in Manchester, New Hampshire. Posing as a manager from the corporate office, he persuaded employees to douse the building with fire suppression chemicals and to then proceed outside, remove all of their clothing and urinate on each other. He claimed the chemicals were caustic and this would render them inert.[10] When "Dex" posted the audio to YouTube he described it as "Epic KFC Prank Call (greatest ever)...dex successfully convinces the 3 female employees to undress fully nude outside and urinate on each other." Many months later "Dex", posing this time as an insurance adjuster, called the same KFC and had the victims describe their experiences while Pranknet members listened.[6]

On May 27, "Dex" called a Hampton Inn in York, Nebraska, and tricked an employee into setting off the fire alarm. As guests made their way to the lobby, a second call was placed to the front desk. "Dex" claimed that, to avoid alleged fines, the fire department should not be called. Instead, the caller gave various bogus instructions to turn the alarm off, including going to a website that only displayed pornography. The next suggestion from the caller was to break the front windows of the hotel. A truck driver staying at the hotel volunteered, and under direction from "Dex", the man drove his semi-trailer truck into the front door.[11] Later that night, "Dex" tweeted: "I just pulled off the most epic prank. I had a hotel guest back his truck into the hotel front window (in the lobby), and break the window." The post was deleted in late July.[10]

On July 20, Markle tricked a desk clerk at the Homewood Suites in Lexington, Kentucky, into drinking another person's urine. The prank started with a call to a guest. The guest was told it was the front desk calling and that a prior guest had tested positive for Hepatitis C. The guest was then told there was a doctor on site and a simple urine test could determine if the guest was infected. The urine was to be brought to the front desk in a simple drinking glass. Switching roles, Markle then called the front desk alleging to be an employee of Martinelli's Cider. He told the clerk that a representative from the company would like to come downstairs with a sample of their new drink. The guest from the previous call then arrived and handed the clerk his urine. Markle then coaxed the woman to try it. He asked how it tasted. "Horrible", she said. "That does not taste like cider. I'm not going to take another sip, that's horrible." Markle replied: "Well, I need to inform you of something, ma'am. I want you to understand that you just drank that man's urine."[6] In its investigation,[clarification needed] the cyber crimes division of the police department of Lufkin, Texas, requested a subpoena for Markle's Skype activities.[16] The police report classifies the Lexington incident as first-degree wanton endangerment, a Class D felony in Kentucky.[17] Markle was subsequently sentenced to a shock incarceration term of six months.[18]

In November 2010, an elderly man staying at a Motel 6 in Spartanburg, South Carolina, was tricked by a Pranknet member posing as a hotel administrator into destroying his television set and smashing mirrors in his room with a wrench to destroy hidden cameras supposedly left by a previous guest.[1] The man, told that there was a "midget" trapped in an adjoining room, was then tricked into destroying a sheetrock wall behind his room door, almost making his way through to the next room.[1] As one of the prankster's returned calls was heard by police and other guests who received prank calls soon called the front desk, the hotel did not hold the man accountable for the damages, but did ask him to leave.[1] The pranksters called back on March 11, 2011, persuading a guest to "disable" a sprinkler head by smashing it with a toilet lid to prevent a 'toxic gas' from entering the room.[20] According to TSG, "Motel 6 is a preferred target because Pranknet members can call directly into rooms without having to know a guest's name"[1] As of November 1, 2011, this is no longer possible. After police arrived to answer a 911 call placed by the motel manager, they declined to press charges against the victim but noted that other similar phone calls had been received at the motel.[1]

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drk: Jan 16, 2005

Cyrano4747 posted:

While I agree with your disdain for billionaires, anyone asking for you to send them cash and in return they'll give back an order of magnitude more is 100% a scam, every single time. If some philanthropist wants to be a petty, demanding piece of poo poo they do it by basically treating the transaction as them purchasing something -naming a building after them, letting them veto curricula items they don't like, teaching classes in the weird thing they're obsessed with, etc.

Like, the actual Musk move would be to make them teach only libertarian economic theory and have an annual essay competition about how emerald mining in apartheid states is cool and good.

Its so common the SEC has a page up on it: https://www.investor.gov/protect-your-investments/fraud/types-fraud/advance-fee-fraud

quote:

Advance Fee Fraud

Advance fee frauds ask investors to pay a fee up front � in advance of receiving any proceeds, money, stock, or warrants � in order for the deal to go through. The advance payment may be described as a fee, tax, commission, or incidental expense that will be repaid later. Some advance fee schemes target investors who already purchased underperforming securities and offer to sell those securities if an �advance fee� is paid, or target investors who have already lost money in investment schemes. Fraudsters often direct investors to wire advance fees to escrow agents or lawyers to give investors comfort and to lend an air of legitimacy to their schemes. Fraudsters also may try to fool investors with official-sounding websites and e-mail addresses.

# ? Mar 29, 2023 23:29

SpartanIvy: May 18, 2007; Hair Elf

"If you send me $100,000 I can finally pay for the neuralink chip that will erase my memories of Grimes and then we can be together forever"

# ? Mar 29, 2023 23:47

Borscht: Jun 4, 2011

Nobody should let Elon musk within 500 feet of any school.

# ? Mar 30, 2023 00:19

tater_salad: Sep 15, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I wish the emails were public so I could see what this woman thought Elon Musk needed $100,000 in a check made out to "CASH" mailed to a random P.O. box for before he could invest millions into the school.

Probably was educated in Florida.

# ? Mar 30, 2023 11:09

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

Elon Musk fans already self select for the perfect mix of dumb, credulous, stubborn and delusions of adequacy that make for a perfect mark.

# ? Mar 30, 2023 11:30

gschmidl: Sep 3, 2011; watch with knife hands

Buddying With Musk: My school fund for a horse!

# ? Mar 30, 2023 11:43

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

The Elon Musk scam lady decided it would be a good idea to try and defend herself at a public meeting.

quote:

Dr. Jan McGee worked at Burns Science and Technology Charter in Oak Hill since its inception. The school and McGee have always been well thought of. Burns Science and Technology is A-rated with just under 1,000 students and a huge waiting list. The principal who has guided it all these years is a superstar in many circles, but a huge lapse in judgment has cost her her job.

quote:

�I am a very smart lady. Well-educated. I fell for a scam,� McGee said.

McGee told a packed audience she was taken in by a fake Elon Musk, someone posing online as the space pioneer. Someone she'd been talking with for at least four months despite being warned by staff that the person was a fraud. She claims he groomed her.

�Grooming is when you talk to somebody and you believe in them, and they get you to trust them that this is really real, and so I fell for it,� McGee said.

For years, principal McGee talked to anyone who would listen about getting Musk and his money involved in the STEM school, a stone's throw from the Space Coast, and apparently thought she'd finally gotten his ear.

quote:

The principal had authorization to write a check up to $50,000 out of the account but no more without board approval, which she did not get. Fortunately, the school's business manager, Brent Appy got wind and stopped the check before it cleared.

�I put myself into this position and into this mess and I made a bad decision,� McGee said.

McGee apologized to the board and the community but other issues with the principal were brought up as some described a toxic work environment.

https://www.wesh.com/article/elon-musk-scam-florida/43467925

# ? Mar 30, 2023 17:08

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Someone is definitely messaging her right now posing as the real Elon Musk wanting to help her our and restore her honour, just need $10k to show you're serious first.

# ? Mar 30, 2023 17:22

nomad2020: Jan 30, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The Elon Musk scam lady decided it would be a good idea to try and defend herself at a public meeting.

https://www.wesh.com/article/elon-musk-scam-florida/43467925

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=accEKtBebaU

Sparkle Motion is Elon's stage name

# ? Mar 30, 2023 19:53

SettingSun: Aug 10, 2013

I appreciate that while she needed approval to write such a large check there wasn't anything actually stopping her. I wonder how she would have reconciled that blatant skirting of policy no matter how the situation turned out.

# ? Mar 30, 2023 19:56

Motronic: Nov 6, 2009

SettingSun posted:

I appreciate that while she needed approval to write such a large check there wasn't anything actually stopping her. I wonder how she would have reconciled that blatant skirting of policy no matter how the situation turned out.

Because despite all evidence to the contrary she believes this:

quote:

I am a very smart lady. Well-educated.

It's a common thing for people in/around academia to think education begins and ends at traditional schooling, and that more of it makes you smart.

# ? Mar 30, 2023 20:02

Phanatic: Mar 13, 2007; Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Motronic posted:

It's a common thing for people in/around academia to think education begins and ends at traditional schooling, and that more of it makes you smart.

My father always used to call this "confusing a degree with an education."

# ? Mar 30, 2023 20:16

Strong Sauce: Jul 2, 2003; You know I am not really your father.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The Elon Musk scam lady decided it would be a good idea to try and defend herself at a public meeting.

https://www.wesh.com/article/elon-musk-scam-florida/43467925

i think it is fairly reasonable to say that even smart people can fall for scams.

i do not think she is very smart though. she also seems to be untrustworthy.

the fact she got scammed to me is a minor point in this story. other people told her it was a scam and instead of coming to that realization... she doubled down (financially) and nearly cost her school $100K... like others have mentioned. she is probably incredibly stubborn and has a chip on her shoulder.

i am honestly surprised she apologize and resigned. maybe she is too old to realize you can just not apologize and not resign and apparently most people won't do anything about it anyways.

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Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

With modern technology, you could probably do a passable real-time impersonation of a public figure over Zoom. That would be another angle for these scammers to try once they've hooked a whale to convince them it's real.

# ? Mar 30, 2023 20:58

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