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glassyalabolas posted:I'm a bit surprised they didn't announce DLC or a season pass. probably waiting for launch, either just before or after
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Mar 30, 2023 03:08
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They did announce the BOTW DLC about six weeks from launch, so it would've been here huh. I'd like to think that part of the reason this game's 70 is that any DLC plans ended up being folded into the main game, and is part of why it took so long.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:11
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Whatever the DLC ends up being, I want the mega awesome reward to be a cool sleek looking fighter craft you can fly around and shoot enemies with and drop bombs from with very little restrictions. Hell just give us a Zonai looking Arwing.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:22
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https://youtu.be/Kbwl62fiO88 Reward should be a literal low poly Arwing that follows you around like Wolf Link.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:24
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I keep meaning to ask this, but should I know what the Zonai are? I admit I didn't finish Twilight Princess and I still haven't gotten to Skyward Sword even in the remake, so have I missed something in there because everybody else seems to know what's up.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:25
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Winifred Madgers posted:I keep meaning to ask this, but should I know what the Zonai are? I admit I didn't finish Twilight Princess and I still haven't gotten to Skyward Sword even in the remake, so have I missed something in there because everybody else seems to know what's up. I don't think they were any previous games but there are a bunch of Zonai ruins in BotW, mostly around the jungle area. They seem to have kind of a MokBa fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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Mar 30, 2023 03:27
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Winifred Madgers posted:I keep meaning to ask this, but should I know what the Zonai are? I admit I didn't finish Twilight Princess and I still haven't gotten to Skyward Sword even in the remake, so have I missed something in there because everybody else seems to know what's up. there were introduced in BotW, and even then only via item descriptions and area names. We "know" them from their ruins, which are vaguely Mayan in design Especially talented lore lords spotted things associated with Zonai in the earliest trailers. Otherwise they are a total mystery, other than perhaps being linked to the events of 10,000 years ago given that their ruins are older than the Hylian ones
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Mar 30, 2023 03:28
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MokBa posted:I don't think they were any previous games but there are a bunch of Zonai ruins in BotW, mostly around the jungle area. They seem to have kind of a Mayan vibe and also like dragons. related? https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/Tokay
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Mar 30, 2023 03:29
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Honestly when the second teaser dropped and I saw a YouTuber talking about Zonai stuff this is what I thought they meant. Seemed like a deep cut but I was down for it. Even though I loving hate those guys and their trading quest though. I’d love if they brought back more races. Tokay and Subrosians could lend themselves to some very cool designs in 3D. They even went and made brand new species for Skyward Sword that already feel memory holed.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:33
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WarpDogs posted:there were introduced in BotW, and even then only via item descriptions and area names. We "know" them from their ruins, which are vaguely Mayan in design Well that makes me feel better. I only just recently, playing Link's Awakening DX, learned that the Hinox was not a new enemy. And I only learned that the mid-boss in a dungeon that I had fought was a Hinox after the fact due to having to look up something else in a guide, I didn't put 2 and 2 together that a large cyclops would be a Hinox.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:36
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I actually liked the Mogmas, I'd be down to see them again.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:42
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Isn't there concept art of Link interacting with tiny people that might be BotW's version of the Minish?
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Mar 30, 2023 03:43
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Mar 30, 2023 03:50
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wait, zonai only showed up in BotW? then where the hell did the name come from? as far as i know we have a bunch of ruins but no text naming them - i figured they were just a race from one of the 2D games that i'd never played.
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Mar 30, 2023 04:00
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It seems the Zonai predate the Sheikah and use more of a nature/spirit magic vs. the Sheikah's pure magitech. I think the Zonai are to the Sheikah what the Sheikah are to current Hylians, a.k.a. far more ancient but also far more advanced. The Zonai were building megaprojects that still exist like the Labyrinths and Faron region ruins. My theorycrafting is that the Sheikah defeated Ganon 10,000 years ago but that was still only the most recent of many other resurrections of Ganon. The Zonai were the original group who imprisoned Ganondorf tens of thousands of years before even the Sheikah and the Malice version of him has been resurrecting since. So, it's like the Sheikah were combating the symptom, not the problem. After the events of BotW, Zelda and Link investigate why there still seems to be lingering evil after the banishment of the Calamity only to find a Zonai construct keeping the physical body of Ganondorf neutralized. Something happens and Ganondorf is freed, but in the breaking of the spell, it activates the super ancient Zonai tech that the Sheikah had literally built on top of. Among the Zonai tech are the floating islands but also Link's new arm and a prophecy on how to defeat Ganon for good. It's also possible Ganon's first move is to eradicate Sheikah constructs because they pose a threat. The Divine Beasts and Guardians can no longer be corrupted so he simply wipes them out or renders them completely inoperable. I would kind of like to see the Divine Beasts make a return (with the Champions) and have a more active role in the plot. One thing is for sure, the explanation for the Sheikah's absence will be in the first cutscene of the game. There has to be a reason the Heroes can't use the last game's macguffins and everyone who played BotW is going to wonder where all the Towers, Shrines, and Divine Beasts went.
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Mar 30, 2023 04:01
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FooF posted:It seems the Zonai predate the Sheikah and use more of a nature/spirit magic vs. the Sheikah's pure magitech. I think the Zonai are to the Sheikah what the Sheikah are to current Hylians, a.k.a. far more ancient but also far more advanced. The Zonai were building megaprojects that still exist like the Labyrinths and Faron region ruins. Then the hylians went digging underground and went "Oh! These big cool weapons have to be related to that old prophecy about malignant evil returning, we should turn them on!!  " and ganon went to town.TotK will start with zelda going "hey when i was in a weird goddess-powered time seal keeping ganon under lock and key while you got your poo poo together, i figured out where the malice was actually coming from because i had nothing else to do. wanna go poke at it??" and then you go down there, unintentionally release ganondorf, and therefore break all the sheikah tech because they no longer have an extremely powerful dessicated wizard to use as a power source. will this be canon: almost certainly not. but golly gee it sure is fun to speculate, isn't it.
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Mar 30, 2023 04:13
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 someone help this bitchass korok
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Mar 30, 2023 04:23
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I hope Ganon pieces himself back together like in the Mummy. But he’s getting his parts from regular Hylian citizens and ends up looking like a generic NPC.
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Mar 30, 2023 04:23
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They were going to announce TotK DLC but it got too vicious so it's going to be the next game instead.
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Mar 30, 2023 04:28
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zelda and ganondorf were in hyrule castle making babies and i saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me
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Mar 30, 2023 04:46
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Blaziken386 posted:wait, zonai only showed up in BotW? then where the hell did the name come from? as far as i know we have a bunch of ruins but no text naming them - i figured they were just a race from one of the 2D games that i'd never played. It's the name of a set of ruins in the jungle area in BotW. I think it was also mentioned in one of the official guides or artbooks?
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Mar 30, 2023 05:15
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Blaziken386 posted:wait, zonai only showed up in BotW? then where the hell did the name come from? as far as i know we have a bunch of ruins but no text naming them - i figured they were just a race from one of the 2D games that i'd never played. there was an artbook that fleshed things out beyond what's in botw and confirmed that the name of the ancient barbarian tribe is the zonai
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Mar 30, 2023 05:18
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This may be a controversial opinion, but I stand by this hot take: I'm really looking forward to playing Tears of the Kingdom.
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Mar 30, 2023 05:18
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Kassad posted:It's the name of a set of ruins in the jungle area in BotW. I think it was also mentioned in one of the official guides or artbooks? Also one of the barbarian armor pieces says it.
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Mar 30, 2023 05:21
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:This may be a controversial opinion, but I stand by this hot take:  
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Mar 30, 2023 05:22
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Looking back through, Aonuma was being really cheeky with the camera. There's a couple of times in the video that Link is near a blue shrine symbol on the map, but never quuuite looks directly at it - except during the fused-shield exhibition, when the camera swings to an angle that might see it while the puffball smoke cover is obscuring it. The coordinates on the minimap are also still interesting by implications. They're 4 digit numbers, everything in the video is in the positive range for the X value, negative range for the Y value, and positive range for the Z value. The closest it gets to the 0000 value on X is when Link gets knocked off by the Construct (he hits 0047 during the fall), the closest to 0000 on Y is when Link's demonstrating the Keese-eye arrow fusion (-1013 at one point), and surface level is where 0000 should be (closet Link gets that I noticed is when he hits the river, at 0006 for a moment). There's still a lot of map in all directions to be seen during the fall so I presume everything in the video is in the southeastern quadrant of the map, pressing up on the middle. And, of course, there may be extensive underground/underwater sights if the Z level goes negative. The island Link uses Recall to reach is about 0500 on the Z axis while the bigger island after that is about 1500 on the Z axis.
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Mar 30, 2023 05:23
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:This may be a controversial opinion, but I stand by this hot take: If you're looking forward to this game so much why don't you marry it
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Mar 30, 2023 05:24
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Khanstant posted:If you're looking forward to this game so much why don't you marry it well maybe I will 
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Mar 30, 2023 05:33
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married to the game rupees on my chain
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Mar 30, 2023 05:55
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Hogama posted:Looking back through, Aonuma was being really cheeky with the camera. I just watched the video a 2nd time and "cheeky" really describes the whole thing. lots of clever camera work and cuts, and I have to imagine leaving the UI on was a deliberate choice The Zonai connection is confirmed via item drop names. They could have disabled those, but they left them Link looks like a wildman with a hosed up arm, but he doesn't mention it even in passing, nor does he bring up the master sword (?) ability. they could have started the demo toggled to one of the abilities they were going to introduce, but they didn't he's about to run into a cave, you can clearly see it's a deep one with a path that curves onwards to the left, but no, we're here to show off Ascend and then the footage cuts to something else the moment he's about to re-enter it. so many things that show up in the background that are quickly passed over. the friendly / animal-like constructs, a dragon in the sky, some kind of storm looking thing; the camera doesn't try to hide any of them but they're never remarked on maybe I'm giving Nintendo too much credit, but it feels like a video deliberately created for the people who make or enjoy those hours long analysis videos
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Mar 30, 2023 06:58
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WarpDogs posted:nor does he bring up the master sword (?) ability. they could have started the demo toggled to one of the abilities they were going to introduce, but they didn't  The left side of the picture is just the Recall symbol, but I don't believe the right side has been spotted yet. Plus there's this pin that comes with the Collector's Deluxe edition (this one can be seen on the official video for the contents - there's 4 in the box, including that one only partially visible in frame) that doesn't match any symbols seen yet.  Could be tied to more abilities, as well.
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Mar 30, 2023 07:44
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WarpDogs posted:I have to imagine leaving the UI on was a deliberate choice It was for sure, that's why I'm leaning towards the coordinate numbers on the minimap being in the final game. It would be strange to say the game's finished and show the HUD if it still had debug stuff in it. E: Also noteworthy how he doesn't show the menus or the map at all. Also the map seems to have layers? When he's on the sky island they're shown on the minimap but when he gets down to the surface, it's completely blank again. Kassad fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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Mar 30, 2023 07:53
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I bet there's going to be a lot of secret little areas high into the sky, far below ground and potentially to the sides of the map that you need ascend, descend, and clever gliding to reach. I have a feeling they were inspired a lot by Elden Ring in terms of map scale and using it to inspire awe through warps etc. I know it's a stretch but I'm kind of hoping there's some kind of moon dungeon/area calling back to Majora's Mask
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Mar 30, 2023 08:08
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WarpDogs posted:maybe I'm giving Nintendo too much credit, but it feels like a video deliberately created for the people who make or enjoy those hours long analysis videos It's totally got that feel to it, like even the dragon accidentally passing for a few frames seems intentional. They're not showing all the cards but they certainly keep waving them around.
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Mar 30, 2023 08:16
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Gwely Mernans posted:I know it's a stretch but I'm kind of hoping there's some kind of moon dungeon/area calling back to Majora's Mask
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Mar 30, 2023 08:25
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WarpDogs posted:
I think that is just the symbol for the Fuse ability.
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Mar 30, 2023 08:56
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Khanstant posted:They should add a Korok toggle for brain geniuses who need harder puzzles. Solving simple calculus apple equations, write a persuasive grant proposal to the great deku tree, charming cryptography cipher problems generated for each save file so no cheating online. Black and white grid nailed to a tree all Little guy gets knock-out, right? Right? (5) And New ability some doofus explains (4)
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Mar 30, 2023 09:14
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https://twitter.com/Gamechamp3k/status/1640905127266533384
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Mar 30, 2023 09:55
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Speaking of, I just finished watching the latest Zeltik video and he pointed out that the peaceful "Construct Rangers" (a) seem to be sweeping and doing chores, and (b) the "Talk" option appears for a second when Link disembarks from his raft near one before moving away. So you can probably talk to them. What do those little fuckers want? Are they an entire new set of NPCs with weird quests? Or will they all just have a couple of repeating lines of dialogue; kind of like the Yiga clan assassins who ambush you occasionally in Breath of the Wild? poo poo, even if that's all they are, it still implies there'll be some other constructs with a larger presence that they're foreshadowing.
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Mar 30, 2023 10:07
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Gwely Mernans posted:I bet there's going to be a lot of secret little areas high into the sky, far below ground and potentially to the sides of the map that you need ascend, descend, and clever gliding to reach. I have a feeling they were inspired a lot by Elden Ring in terms of map scale and using it to inspire awe through warps etc. As much as I'd love for Elden Ring to have inspired this game, it only came out a year ago. I guarantee you this game was almost totally complete a year ago and everything since has been bug testing and refining. But I do hope the map has been expanded outwards as well, just to give us more surprises. I was really worried when the first teaser showed Hyrule all over again, but everything since has been reassuring. They've remixed and expanded a lot and are looking for a new way to surprise the player besides "what vista is over that hill?"
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Mar 30, 2023 11:08
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