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Q did his own research and took space-horse paste instead of seeking a real treatment for his mysterious case of diseaseitis.
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McCloud posted:You mean why he was dying? I just assumed he caught some rare form of Q-cancer or something Q having knowledge of the future realized the scripts for him would never get any better so he decided just to mercy kill himself!
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Mar 30, 2023 03:09
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zoux posted:Do we ever see shuttles launched out of the big one on the saucer? Inside or outside, I assume some of the interiors were SB1 but I never really paid attention This is not news to anyone who played that great half -finished Stage9 version of the ship, but the main shuttle bay was supposed to be huge, and take up a huge volume of the saucer. It really remakes the ship into more of an aircraft carrier, which is a great idea if the ship’s transporters weren’t like… created originally to get around needing to pay for shuttle effects.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:18
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A.o.D. posted:Q did his own research and took space-horse paste instead of seeking a real treatment for his mysterious case of diseaseitis. There's a wildlife guy that is putting out space-horse paste to help the mangey fox that lives under my shed, so what I'm saying is Q has mange.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:21
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FISHMANPET posted:Was that the case with S3? I'm watching it now and it just feels like I'm bouncing from hit to hit in a way I didn't feel with S1 or S2. So many classic moments here. "Commander, what are your intentions with my daughter?" "I will have some of your burnt replicated bird meat". Then again, they did just go to the first city of the "Klingon Imperial Empire" (as if there's any kind of of empire that isn't imperial). But these episodes all feel great. I was assuming that was a typo because I agree, TNG S3 is just hit after hit and it really seemed like they pulled the show together by that point.
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Mar 30, 2023 03:51
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Winifred Madgers posted:I was assuming that was a typo because I agree, TNG S3 is just hit after hit and it really seemed like they pulled the show together by that point. This was largely due to the stabilizing presence of Michael Piller in the writers' room (and, unfortunately, Berman, who was finally running the show in the wake of Maurice Hurley's firing after the second season).
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Mar 30, 2023 03:55
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I was reading the notes on Captain's Holiday, and it was Stewart's push for Picard to do more Fighting and Fornicating that led to this episode. But it almost feels like an underhanded "gently caress you" from the writers to Stewart to make him out to be this huge nerd that brings a bunch of moral philosophy books on vacation, before they finally let him do his fighting and fornicating.
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Mar 30, 2023 04:55
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Nearing the end of DS9 S4 and man this has a lot of good eps. Though I will say that while I like a good Gul Dukat episode I worry that this season might be making him a little bit too likable. Yeah he’s a complex and well-rounded character who contains multitudes but like he also did the space holocaust and it’s sometimes hard to reconcile.
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Mar 30, 2023 04:56
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Nearing the end of DS9 S4 and man this has a lot of good eps. Though I will say that while I like a good Gul Dukat episode I worry that this season might be making him a little bit too likable. The writers realized this due in part to--no joke--them getting fan mail from people writing about how horny they were for Dukat. And then they wildly over-corrected in season 6.
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Mar 30, 2023 04:59
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Nearing the end of DS9 S4 and man this has a lot of good eps. Though I will say that while I like a good Gul Dukat episode I worry that this season might be making him a little bit too likable. Yeah he’s a complex and well-rounded character who contains multitudes but like he also did the space holocaust and it’s sometimes hard to reconcile. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Mar 30, 2023 06:50
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jeeves posted:This is not news to anyone who played that great half -finished Stage9 version of the ship, but the main shuttle bay was supposed to be huge, and take up a huge volume of the saucer. It does make sense a little bit in universe, the Galaxy is suppose to be this massive ship, presumably under normal operations it could function almost like a space station, people coming and going to nearby star systems via shuttle during extended diplomatic or scientific work. We just don't see that kind of episode.
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Mar 30, 2023 12:46
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We never see main shuttle bay because that's where Riker stashes his collection of horga'hns.
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Mar 30, 2023 12:54
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Hunter Noventa posted:It does make sense a little bit in universe, the Galaxy is suppose to be this massive ship, presumably under normal operations it could function almost like a space station, people coming and going to nearby star systems via shuttle during extended diplomatic or scientific work. Yeah the Galaxy Class was really meant to be an on-the-go starbase in many ways.
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Mar 30, 2023 12:55
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dr_rat posted:Q having knowledge of the future realized the scripts for him would never get any better so he decided just to mercy kill himself! De Lancie: [with a Puckish grin] and that's my pitch. Do you like it, mon producer? Producer: um, well, you wrote that Q behaves extremely uncharacteristically then dies for no reason. De Lancie: Au contraire, *I* didn't write that, it was written already. I merely... presented you the script. To--shall we say--facilitate things. It's so tedious to watch you types bumbling around, thinking you're creating. I moved the game ahead. Producer: I can't lie, most of this script reads like ideas I had, just poorly-realized. De Lancie: [smirking] Of course. Well, you're the one with the vision. But here's a twist -- I quit. [Delancey snaps and vanishes]
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Mar 30, 2023 13:48
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Lol I can hear that and it's more Q than P2Q
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Mar 30, 2023 15:01
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V-Men posted:We never see main shuttle bay because that's where Riker stashes his collection of horga'hns. Do you suppose when Riker wants to go to Risa, he has to call a year in advance so the people can go in training for his arrival
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Mar 30, 2023 15:30
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MikeJF posted:Yeah the Galaxy Class was really meant to be an on-the-go starbase in many ways. Didn't Probert or someone else in the production say that really, it should've had a total crew, including nonessential mission specialists, civilians and rotating temporary assignments, of 5,000? 1,000 is practically a skeleton crew for a ship that size, mostly due to the stupendously voluminous saucer section.
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Mar 30, 2023 15:46
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McSpanky posted:Didn't Probert or someone else in the production say that really, it should've had a total crew, including nonessential mission specialists, civilians and rotating temporary assignments, of 5,000? 1,000 is practically a skeleton crew for a ship that size, mostly due to the stupendously voluminous saucer section. Look every one knows it has a crew of only two people  (ships computer likes a lot of leg room while it drives the ship obviously)
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Mar 30, 2023 15:54
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McSpanky posted:Didn't Probert or someone else in the production say that really, it should've had a total crew, including nonessential mission specialists, civilians and rotating temporary assignments, of 5,000? 1,000 is practically a skeleton crew for a ship that size, mostly due to the stupendously voluminous saucer section. With three shifts, which seemed to be the thing, that's only 50 people actually at their stations at a time. Since the bridge and engineering always seem busy, there must be a lot of really lonely ensigns dotted about the ship.
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Mar 30, 2023 16:36
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Payndz posted:Voyager was the size of the TOS Enterprise (even a bit bigger), but only had a third of the crew. I know, better automation, gel packs, yadda yadda, but even so that's a lot of empty space. It's like an average of ten people per deck, on a ship that's longer than a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier! The Defiant has like 50 crew members and is like 1/4 the size of Voyager. Voyager having 140 crew doesn't make sense.
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Mar 30, 2023 16:39
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Ship size to crew needs isn't a linear relationship. It depends a lot on designed endurance and what missions it's going for. The defiant was a ship wrapped around some big guns and was meant to be used close to stations and planets. Voyager was meant to do long cruises away from starbases all on their own, and while it was designed with a greater ability to react to threats, it's still not really a warship single tasker like the defiant. Edit: The Gerald R Ford US supercarrier is 1092 feet long and 134 foot beam. The MSC Irinia, the largest cargo ship in the world, has a length of 1312 feet and a beam of 201 feet. The container ship has a crew of 34, the Ford's crew size is 5500 ish. CainFortea fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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Mar 30, 2023 16:46
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McSpanky posted:Didn't Probert or someone else in the production say that really, it should've had a total crew, including nonessential mission specialists, civilians and rotating temporary assignments, of 5,000? 1,000 is practically a skeleton crew for a ship that size, mostly due to the stupendously voluminous saucer section. Yeah this guy goes into how big and empty it would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwx5uB0pyhQ
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Mar 30, 2023 16:47
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I've always subscribed to the idea that that, say, the saucer of the Enterprise D is about 40% tank, 30% bay, 20% machinery and then a thin crust of crew space around the edge. Which is still massive.
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Mar 30, 2023 17:08
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At least that explains how everybody manages to have quarters with a window. Except for poor Data and Worf. Actually from that video maybe Geordi doesn't have windows?
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Mar 30, 2023 17:11
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FISHMANPET posted:At least that explains how everybody manages to have quarters with a window. Except for poor Data and Worf. Actually from that video maybe Geordi doesn't have windows? Yeah it never really made sense that Data and Geordi and Worf didn't have window quarters given how many there were.
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Mar 30, 2023 17:12
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Presumably there are dozens if not hundreds of officers that outrank them among the crew that we never see
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Mar 30, 2023 17:16
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zoux posted:Presumably there are dozens if not hundreds of officers that outrank them among the crew that we never see Data is literally third in command. Geordi makes the ship go. Worf is the cop.
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Mar 30, 2023 17:18
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Imagine being a low level crew member on a space walk on the hull and you see worf, who forgot to close the shades is off duty and celebrating some sort of Klingon ritual cranking both of his giant Klingon space dongs with a pain stick stuck in his rear end.
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Mar 30, 2023 17:21
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FISHMANPET posted:At least that explains how everybody manages to have quarters with a window. Except for poor Data and Worf. Actually from that video maybe Geordi doesn't have windows? Geordi gets VISOR panels installed in the bulkhead.
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Mar 30, 2023 17:29
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Arivia posted:Data is literally third in command. Geordi makes the ship go. Worf is the cop. Data is a robot, Geordi is blind and Worf never made it past Lt. on the Enterprise. Meanwhile every one-episode botanist or xenobiologist blue shirt department head is a full three pip commander
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Mar 30, 2023 17:32
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I could easily see some people preferring not to stare into space all the time. Especially Geordi with the VISOR.
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Mar 30, 2023 17:32
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MikeJF posted:I could easily see some people preferring not to stare into space all the time. Especially Geordi with the VISOR. Geordi's just like "nah, I'm alright without seeing those hosed-up phase creatures all the time." "...phase creatures, Mr. La Forge?" "You know, they're out there, in space, they have baby faces, put tiny imploring hands against the glass. I'm good without seeing that while I'm trying to chill." Everyone at the conference table turns and warily looks at the window. "poo poo, are they there now? Must've heard me talking about them. They hear everything."
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Mar 30, 2023 17:39
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MikeJF posted:I could easily see some people preferring not to stare into space all the time. Especially Geordi with the VISOR. Geordi talks a bit about all the cool things he can “see” in the extra human perception of the VISOR though. I imagine a star or a nebula would look pretty great to him.
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Mar 30, 2023 17:40
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Arivia posted:Geordi talks a bit about all the cool things he can “see” in the extra human perception of the VISOR though. I imagine a star or a nebula would look pretty great to him. Which is funny anytime they do Geordi Vision and it looks like poo poo. 
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I wonder if the VISOR means that it's visible to Geordi whenever someone passes gas. That would make for some pretty awkward senior staff meetings.
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Mar 30, 2023 17:43
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zoux posted:Worf never made it past Lt. on the Enterprise. He gets promoted in the first TNG scene in Generations.
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Mar 30, 2023 17:59
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Also Geordi and Worf both seem like the type who would pick quarters to be more convenient for work. I'd imagine Geordi would want quarters as close to the warp core as he can get.
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Mar 30, 2023 18:21
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Really when you think about it, the systems on a ship like the Defiant and a Galaxy class are pretty similar. So the crew necessary for operational functions of the ship itself would be similar. Where the Galaxy class would be crewed differently is the mission. Like, what we should be seeing is one parked in a solar system with shuttles coming and going with hundreds of scientists cataloging everything about that location. Next mission is to host a big delegation from 100 different worlds in neutral space. Then you have them help set up a colony while transporting the initial 1000 residents. That was really the original intent of that class of starship and we have to assume it's doing mundane missions like this in-between the captain getting possessed and the holodeck creating sentient life.
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Mar 30, 2023 18:45
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dr_rat posted:I'd imagine Geordi would want quarters as close to the warp core as he can get. "Geordi, please stop sleeping in there. It's not a quarters." "It's cozy! So warm. Enterprise's heartbeat... Like a womb." "Your hair is falling out in clumps!" "Don't hafta *koff* shave before work!"
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What was it Brahma said - "Whenever you touch the Enterprise you touch me"? No wonder Geordi world want to live in the innards of the ship.
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