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gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Cpt_Obvious posted:

That thread literally does not believe BRICS is real.

In cspam we believe in a different kind of brick :staredog:

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crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

Cpt_Obvious posted:

That thread literally does not believe BRICS is real.

lmfao really

# ? Mar 31, 2023 04:32

tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

gradenko_2000 posted:

In cspam we believe in a different kind of brick

lol

# ? Mar 31, 2023 04:33

Cpt_Obvious: Jun 18, 2007

BRICS is a thing made up by, literally, Goldman Sachs, to try and drum up investment. It's not a meaningful category except as much as people want it to be because it's a buzzword that westerners in media/politics recognize and want to use to get other western investment.

# ? Mar 31, 2023 04:39

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

In cspam we believe in a different kind of brick

Cpt_Obvious posted:

BRICS is a thing made up by, literally, Goldman Sachs, to try and drum up investment. It's not a meaningful category except as much as people want it to be because it's a buzzword that westerners in media/politics recognize and want to use to get other western investment.

Investment time is over

# ? Mar 31, 2023 04:43

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

gradenko_2000 posted:

In cspam we believe in a different kind of brick

Cpt_Obvious posted:

BRICS is a thing made up by, literally, Goldman Sachs, to try and drum up investment. It's not a meaningful category except as much as people want it to be because it's a buzzword that westerners in media/politics recognize and want to use to get other western investment.

Slavvy posted:

Investment time is over

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Ardennes: May 12, 2002

It is a shame that China hasn�t build up poor and underdeveloped areas before and their HSR network is now useless.

# ? Mar 31, 2023 04:48

Dr. Jerrold Coe: Feb 6, 2021; Is it me?

indigi posted:

i find the idea that you can "go take a look" in Xinjiang and figure out what's happening "on your own" to be hilariously patronizing. it's on par with google-epidemiologists trying to find out what's happening with vaccines and autism on facebook

whether it's all sunshine and roses or the absolute worst case Zenz hysteria (I know it isn't), a visitor wouldn't be able to find out anything substantial. it's a really weird line I've seen repeated pretty regularly over the years

The point is all the bullshit about prison camps where oh it's actually a loving school, "this mosque was destroyed!" when actually it was remodeled, stuff you can literally see on google earth, the blatant lying coupled with treating Xinjiang like it's a Soviet closed city writ large where oh you have to trust us, the information is so hard to find, very censorious CCP you know, and it's a panic on par with the anti-trans/gender poo poo as far as being based on the opposite of reality and fwd: fwd: slash facebook/qanon level nonsense

# ? Mar 31, 2023 04:53

Weka: May 5, 2019; That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

indigi posted:

they were looking on facebook

Even that's pretty doable.

# ? Mar 31, 2023 04:53

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

indigi posted:

i find the idea that you can "go take a look" in Xinjiang and figure out what's happening "on your own" to be hilariously patronizing. it's on par with google-epidemiologists trying to find out what's happening with vaccines and autism on facebook

whether it's all sunshine and roses or the absolute worst case Zenz hysteria (I know it isn't), a visitor wouldn't be able to find out anything substantial. it's a really weird line I've seen repeated pretty regularly over the years

how do people really know anything anyway? like... how do you know the blue YOU see is the same as the blue I see

makes u think

# ? Mar 31, 2023 04:57

ikanreed: Sep 25, 2009; I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Cpt_Obvious posted:

That thread literally does not believe BRICS is real.

Those are sure five countries that exist with big economies. And they've had meetings with each other using that name.

But I'll never believe South Africa is part of a counter American political power structure

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Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011; Can't post for 3 hours!

Weka posted:

Even that's pretty doable.

like if you really want to see uyghurs on social media search for high school students on tiktok and see for yourself what language theyre speaking or if their schools look like prisons

# ? Mar 31, 2023 05:37

Isentropy: Dec 12, 2010

ikanreed posted:

Those are sure five countries that exist with big economies. And they've had meetings with each other using that name.

But I'll never believe South Africa is part of a counter American political power structure

they�ve signed on to build a Russian NPP, I think that�s a hint. the ANC might be capitalist but like India they have no warm fuzzy feelings for the West

# ? Mar 31, 2023 05:39

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

crepeface posted:

lmfao really

Just to add, lots of international groups are real things with lots of work behind them, but it is also possible for a government to hire out a conference hall, pick a fancy name, hand out some invites, issue a press release and boom instant International Partnership Between X,Y, and Z.

Nothing is actually worth anything unless you have a joint communique you can parse carefully for hints of what the tangible things that were actually agreed were.

# ? Mar 31, 2023 05:43

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

i've got a joint communique for you!!! 🖕

# ? Mar 31, 2023 05:48

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

a lifetime bitch.

drat.

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Antonymous: Apr 4, 2009

Ardennes posted:

It is a shame that China hasn�t build up poor and underdeveloped areas before and their HSR network is now useless.

the US was settled along wagon trails and then railroad lines and then highway and freeway lines. the towns on the lines grew and any settlements off them withered. Also for the US it was a colonization project please don't use that against me

# ? Mar 31, 2023 05:52

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Also there's obviously economic value to just not having persons and trucks idling behind a toll gate

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Antonymous: Apr 4, 2009

Some Guy TT posted:

like if you really want to see uyghurs on social media search for high school students on tiktok and see for yourself what language theyre speaking or if their schools look like prisons

chinese schools do look like prisons. also american schools sometimes

# ? Mar 31, 2023 05:53

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

Antonymous posted:

chinese schools do look like prisons. also american schools sometimes

lol i think there's a post of mine in the archives when i realised US schools really had metal detectors

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Danann: Aug 4, 2013

CGTN has a report on US human rights violations.

quote:

Full text: The Report on Human Rights Violations in the United States in 2022
CGTN,China Global Television Network
64�81 minutes

China on Tuesday issued "The Report on Human Rights Violations in the United States in 2022."

The following is the full text of the report:

The Report on Human Rights Violations in the United States in 2022

The State Council Information Office of the People's Republic of China

March 2023

Contents

Foreword

I. Dysfunctional Civil Rights Protection System

II. Hollowed-out American-style Electoral Democracy

III. Growing Racial Discrimination and Inequality

IV. Worsening Subsistence Crisis among U.S. Underclass

V. Historic Retrogression in Women's and Children's Rights

VI. Wanton Violation of Other Countries' Human Rights and Trampling on Justice

Foreword

The year 2022 witnessed a landmark setback for U.S. human rights. In the United States, a country labeling itself a "human rights defender," "chronic diseases" such as money politics, racial discrimination, gun and police violence, and wealth polarization are rampant. Human rights legislation and justice have seen an extreme retrogression, further undermining the basic rights and freedoms of the American people.

The U.S. government has greatly relaxed gun control, resulting in high death toll from gun violence. The U.S. Supreme Court's decision in the Bruen case in 2022 became a landmark regression in the field of gun control in the United States. Nearly half of U.S. states have relaxed gun restrictions. The United States leads the world in gun ownership, gun homicide and mass shootings, with more than 80,000 people killed or injured by gun violence in 2022, the third consecutive year on record that the United States experiences more than 600 mass shootings. Gun violence has become an "American disease."

Midterm elections have become the most expensive ones in the United States, and American-style democracy has lost its popular support. The cost of elections in the United States has soared again, with cumulative spending of the 2022 midterm elections exceeding more than 16.7 billion U.S. dollars. Political donations from billionaires accounted for 15 percent of the federal total, up from 11 percent in the 2020 election cycle. "Dark money" donations manipulate U.S. elections furtively, and political polarization and social fragmentation make it difficult for the country to reach a democratic consensus. With 69 percent of Americans believing their democracy is at "risk of collapse" and 86 percent of American voters saying it faces "very serious threats," there is a general public disillusionment of American-style democracy.

Racism is on the rise and ethnic minorities suffer widespread discrimination. Hate crimes based on racial bias in the United States increased dramatically between 2020 and 2022. The racist massacre at a Buffalo supermarket, with 10 African-Americans killed, has shocked the world. A total of 81 percent of Asian Americans say violence against Asian communities is surging. African Americans are 2.78 times more likely to be killed by police than whites. The sufferings caused by genocide and cultural assimilation taken by the U.S. government against Indians and other aborigines in history still persist today.

Life expectancy has plummeted, and deaths from drug abuse continue to climb. According to a report released in August 2022 by the National Center for Health Statistics under the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, average life expectancy in the United States dropped by 2.7 years to 76.1 years from 2019 to 2021, the lowest since 1996. Interest groups and politicians trade power for money, allowing drug and substance abuse to flourish. The number of Americans dying from drug and substance abuse has increased dramatically in recent years, to more than 100,000 per year. Substance abuse has become one of America's most devastating public health crises.

Women have lost constitutional protections for abortion, and children's living environment is worrying. The U.S. Supreme Court's ruling overturning Roe v. Wade has ended women's right to abortion protected by the U.S. Constitution for nearly 50 years, which lands a huge blow to women's human rights and gender equality. In 2022, more than 5,800 children under the age of 18 got injured or killed by shooting in the United States, and the number of school shootings amounted to 302, the highest since 1970. The child poverty rate in the United States increased from 12.1 percent in December 2021 to 16.6 percent in May 2022, with 3.3 million more children living in poverty. The United States had seen a nearly 70 percent increase in child labor violations since 2018, and registered a 26 percent increase in minors employed in hazardous occupations in fiscal year 2022.

U.S. abuse of force and unilateral sanctions has created humanitarian disasters. Since the beginning of the 21st century, the United States has carried out military operations in 85 countries in the name of "anti-terrorism," which directly claimed at least 929,000 civilian lives and displaced 38 million people. The United States has imposed more unilateral sanctions than any other country in the world, and it still has sanctions in place against more than 20 countries, resulting in the inability of those targeted to provide basic food and medicine for their people. Immigration issue has become a tool of partisan fight, and immigration farces have been staged on a large scale, making immigrants face extreme xenophobia and cruel treatment. There were a record high of nearly 2.4 million migrant arrests at the nation's border in 2022, and the death toll of immigrants at its southern border reached 856, the deadliest in a single year.

The United States, founded on colonialism, racist slavery and inequality in labor, possession and distribution, has further fallen into a quagmire of system failure, governance deficits, racial divide and social unrest in recent years under the interaction of its polarized economic distribution pattern, racial conflict dominated social pattern and capital interest groups controlled political pattern.

American politicians, serving the interests of oligarchs, have gradually lost their subjective will and objective ability to respond to the basic demands of ordinary people and defend the basic rights of ordinary citizens, and failed to solve their own structural problems of human rights. Instead, they wantonly use human rights as a weapon to attack other countries, creating confrontation, division and chaos in the international community, and have thus become a spoiler and obstructor of global human rights development.

copy+pasting the article and it broke past the 50k character limit on posts

Danann has issued a correction as of 06:33 on Mar 31, 2023

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fatelvis: Mar 21, 2010

Some Guy TT posted:

like if you really want to see uyghurs on social media search for high school students on tiktok and see for yourself what language theyre speaking or if their schools look like prisons

I have been reliably informed that tiktok is a CCP state propaganda tool - can't trust anything on there.

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crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

Danann posted:

copy+pasting the article and it broke past the 50k character limit on posts

thank u jeffery

# ? Mar 31, 2023 06:23

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

crepeface posted:

lol i think there's a post of mine in the archives when i realised US schools really had metal detectors

in the archives? lol thats common as gently caress

# ? Mar 31, 2023 06:31

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

i was so naive.

how do you even access archives now? im pretty sure i bought access ages

edit: oh nevermind i found it

crepeface has issued a correction as of 07:15 on Mar 31, 2023

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HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

crepeface posted:

i was so naive.

how do you even access archives now? im pretty sure i bought access ages

edit: oh nevermind i found it

no lol i meant american schools have had metal detectors for a long, long time

also post it you coward

# ? Mar 31, 2023 07:53

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

oh i just meant i found how to access archives. i went to look for it but i ended up distracted and relmaoing at the bit where the pyf tankies poster got revealed as a mpreg parasite pedo porn fan

# ? Mar 31, 2023 08:03

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

Some Guy TT posted:

https://twitter.com/UyghurCongress/status/1641354357538017283

I'm guessing this is just grift to get people to buy more expensive solar from another source

Bonus points if its an American company

# ? Mar 31, 2023 08:29

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

why do they have the hammer and sickle anyway

shouldn't it be the five stars

# ? Mar 31, 2023 08:36

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011; Can't post for 3 hours!

Regarde Aduck posted:

I'm guessing this is just grift to get people to buy more expensive solar from another source

Bonus points if its an American company

bold of you to assume anyone bothered to check that there even was another source before setting this into motion

# ? Mar 31, 2023 08:39

Comrade Koba: Jul 2, 2007

crepeface posted:

why do they have the hammer and sickle anyway

shouldn't it be the five stars

it�s still the symbol of the EVIL SEESEEPEE

# ? Mar 31, 2023 09:12

Palladium: May 8, 2012; Very Good
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Regarde Aduck posted:

I'm guessing this is just grift to get people to buy more expensive solar from another source

Bonus points if its an American company

capitalism happened and its a ethical non-uyghur chinese company

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webcams for christ: Nov 2, 2005

I missed that this was a thing when originally announced but lol

https://twitter.com/notpotbol/status/1641648888766664705

# ? Mar 31, 2023 10:13

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

crepeface posted:

https://twitter.com/zeke_speek/status/1641267590751481856?t=oL4rHeqgw_tstSx2SaiPjw&s=19

Saudis joining SCO as well

What's Iran's status wrt SCO?

# ? Mar 31, 2023 10:19

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/michaelxpettis/status/1640670962382430211

local yankee china watcher cannot comprehend utilities serving the public non profitably

lol forever at the idea of productively justifying infrastructure

Infrastructure is what you, a state directing development, build in an area *to unleash its productive forces*. It is definitionally an investment in a future state, even the outlines of which do not yet exist.

Imagine opening even a lovely citybuilder and going "welp, no point building any roads on this (near) empty map, since nothing productive is currently going on here. And then closing the game thinking you beat it.

# ? Mar 31, 2023 10:26

Weka: May 5, 2019; That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Some Guy TT posted:

like if you really want to see uyghurs on social media search for high school students on tiktok and see for yourself what language theyre speaking or if their schools look like prisons

Bah, those are potemkin tiktoks.

# ? Mar 31, 2023 10:28

Palladium: May 8, 2012; Very Good
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Orange Devil posted:

lol forever at the idea of productively justifying infrastructure

Infrastructure is what you, a state directing development, build in an area *to unleash its productive forces*. It is definitionally an investment in a future state, even the outlines of which do not yet exist.

Imagine opening even a lovely citybuilder and going "welp, no point building any roads on this (near) empty map, since nothing productive is currently going on here. And then closing the game thinking you beat it.

eh have you considered government doing anything good is authoritarian

# ? Mar 31, 2023 10:29

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

this whole flood of poo poo about how horrible china is basically necessitated by them having an objectively superior system of government in most every way, and as such it must be demonized as hard as possible

this is also why the bullshit machine has spun into overdrive in recent years, as the fact that china is overtaking the west becomes more and more obvious

Cerebral Bore has issued a correction as of 10:41 on Mar 31, 2023

# ? Mar 31, 2023 10:36

Oneiros: Jan 12, 2007

webcams for christ posted:

I missed that this was a thing when originally announced but lol

https://twitter.com/notpotbol/status/1641648888766664705

that can't be right, i was told by very serious western leftists that every trans person in china actually committed suicide overnight due to xi's crackdown

# ? Mar 31, 2023 10:41

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Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Palladium posted:

eh have you considered government doing anything good is authoritarian

Literally videogames have made me more able to correctly assess economic development than a western economics education does.

Like anyone playing anything even adjacent to the Dwarf Fortress / Banished / Anno 1800 / Rimworld genre or even Survival type games with heavy crafting components should intuitively have a better understanding of actual economic principles than the bullshit western universities pump out, because all of those games are inherently materialist, albeit heavily simplified. And in the special case of Workers & Resources, not even all that simplified.

loving Railroad Tycoon disproves this idiots ideas.

Edit:

Someone ought to make a finance capital version of a city builder where you do lots of complicated (but essentially risk-free because you own the government) trading in ever more creative and impossible to understand financial products to make your number go up, but every time you close all the financial pages and go back to the main view showing the cities and infrastructure of your country (on which you have no tools whatsoever to make a direct impact) things have fallen apart further.

Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 10:48 on Mar 31, 2023

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