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Tuckerd
Mar 29, 2023

by vyelkin

Fitzy Fitz posted:

I think I'm the first person in my whole family with a graduate degree and I still earn less than all of them.

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

palindrome posted:

Or maybe it's being a cis white male wearing a suit that matters.

Lol at wearing a suit

Tuckerd
Mar 29, 2023

by vyelkin

Tuckerd
Mar 29, 2023

by vyelkin

Failed Imagineer posted:

Lol at wearing a suit

lol @ wearing any clothing if you're homeless in southern california

Whooping Crabs
Apr 13, 2010

Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

Halloween Jack posted:

I had a job at UVA making 27k. I was the lowest paid person in my position in the entire school and the only people in the dept. who made less than me were some of the postdocs

Slavery built UVA and it's still keeping it afloat

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Cuttlefush posted:

it's so bad for you

I've done no research and also won't read any (lol come at me PhD nerds) but I will state authoritatively that doing a PhD will take a bunch of years off of your life expectancy.

jeebus bob
Nov 4, 2004

Festina lente

Whooping Crabs posted:

Slavery built USA and it's still keeping it afloat

ftfy

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Orange Devil posted:

I've done no research and also won't read any (lol come at me PhD nerds) but I will state authoritatively that doing a PhD will take a bunch of years off of your life expectancy.

It will if you let it.

Joey Steel
Jul 24, 2019

Orange Devil posted:

I've done no research and also won't read any (lol come at me PhD nerds) but I will state authoritatively that doing a PhD will take a bunch of years off of your life expectancy.

Nah, just a time sink. I had a lot of fun in grad school. Arguably more than undergrad.


But 100% agree on the academia being a sucker's job thing. If it weren't for my sugar momma, I'd have to go back to feds doing DOE poo poo. If I do get tenure track, I'm doing it at the CSU schools because gently caress that publish or perish until tenure poo poo. They're like "oh hey, publish a couple papers, submit a few grants before tenure and it's all good".


Of course they *also* pay poo poo, even for tenure track. I got paid more in my first year at the DOE (in the US South!) than what my department head makes here in California.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I love how old professors in sciences apparently “publish” by putting their names on their RAs papers

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Orange Devil posted:

I've done no research and also won't read any (lol come at me PhD nerds) but I will state authoritatively that doing a PhD will take a bunch of years off of your life expectancy.

depends on the department and advisor. some of them, absolutely

Joey Steel
Jul 24, 2019

euphronius posted:

I love how old professors in sciences apparently “publish” by putting their names on their RAs papers

I mean, mine was a sounding board for ideas and occasionally loud dramatic arguments, in proud Russian Academic Tradition(tm). Pain in the rear end when he didn't need to be, but he earned his name on my papers.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

Yospos is fine! they probably don't even have the don't be poor rule anymore

Honestly, if you're good enough at computers to get yospos, you're pretty much guaranteed to be able to get a ridiculous computer toucher job. Probably fully remote too.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

BonHair posted:

Honestly, if you're good enough at computers to get yospos, you're pretty much guaranteed to be able to get a ridiculous computer toucher job. Probably fully remote too.
Good coding skills don’t correlate to good interview skills.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Remulak posted:

Good coding skills don’t correlate to good interview skills.

they do sorry youre bad at coding

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Remulak posted:

Good coding skills don’t correlate to good interview skills.

Actually they do, but not positively. The computer toucher demand is high enough that even posters should be able to get jobs

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

BonHair posted:

Actually they do, but not positively. The computer toucher demand is high enough that even posters should be able to get jobs

bro if it was that easy wed all be computer touchers lmfao

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
not me

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
i will never use a computer for evil

nexous
Jan 14, 2003

I just want to be pure
anyone can be a computer toucher. skills are not a requisite. knowing someone who can get you a job is

Tuckerd
Mar 29, 2023

by vyelkin

BonHair posted:

Actually they do, but not positively. The computer toucher demand is high enough that even posters should be able to get jobs

shame the employers refuse to offer a Liveable wage, employment is a two way street, the bourgeoisie need to get their head out of their rear end, etc

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




i started hating myself during my abortive phd attempt and still do 15 years later after dropping out and getting a real job

would not recommend

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗
I don't have a png of it but I had to sit on a sales call for a training platform today and it had all the magic buttons to make my boss's boss happy, since he's got gen X manager brain

AI!
User Metrics Tracking!
Social Media Features!
QR Codes!
The QR codes really tickled the pleasure center of his brain. He interrupted the presentation to gush about how great it would be to be able to include a QR code on an SOP and then if someone has a question about how to do something they can pull up a video and watch it.

The service being sold isn't a training company, nor are they a video production company. They just license a platform where we can host stuff we make ourselves.
Meanwhile he got really agitated we asked "So this presentation showed X, can it do Y? Because we're required to do Y?"

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Regarde Aduck posted:

really?

worst loving thing about the place really. Did poster give a gently caress about politics before 2016? If NO = yospos poster detected exterminate EXTERMINATE

lmao 2016 was almost 8 years ago, if anything you shouldn't trust people who say they cared about or did politics for longer than that, since whatever the hell they were doing clearly didn't work

Coolness Averted has issued a correction as of 20:53 on Mar 31, 2023

AxGrap
Jan 11, 2005

☝☯ Ŧ𝓤𝒸Ҝ 𝓨𝕠𝔲! 🐼👽
You can't be in my clique if you don't answer my riddles 3

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

When I was in grad school for physics they paid us $100 over the qualification limit for foodstamps. At the first year orientation they also talked about not even trying to hold another job because you'll flunk out within 6 months.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Acelerion posted:

When I was in grad school for physics they paid us $100 over the qualification limit for foodstamps. At the first year orientation they also talked about not even trying to hold another job because you'll flunk out within 6 months.

it's all worth it when you can go work for a high frequency trading firm later

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

ArmZ posted:

it's all worth it when you can go work for a high frequency trading firm later
It's still a small sliver that gets to do that. Believe me, I've tried, but its just normal computer touching for me.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

AnimeIsTrash posted:

bro if it was that easy wed all be computer touchers lmfao

What if I told you you're touching a computer right now?

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

Orange Devil posted:

I've done no research and also won't read any (lol come at me PhD nerds) but I will state authoritatively that doing a PhD will take a bunch of years off of your life expectancy.

also years off building financial stability

pogi
Jun 11, 2014

i just wanna make sick or injured people feel better and be able to have a house off that. an impossible dream.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Sounds like Socialism, you sicko Communist

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

The more essential the job, the less it pays. That's just market forces, that is!

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007

ty slumfrog :)

Cuttlefush posted:

i will never use a computer for evil

and yet, you post

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Red Baron posted:

and yet, you post

i post no evil

nudejedi
Mar 5, 2002

Shanghai Tippytap
I made ~32k gross last year as a cook with 15+ yrs exp, do I win the Lumpiest Prole award?

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

nudejedi posted:

I made ~32k gross last year as a cook with 15+ yrs exp, do I win the Lumpiest Prole award?

I am surprised there isn't even greater labor shortages in food service considering the amount of effort/time versus the pay. You would think restaurant owners would be just microwaving food in the back and plopping it down on customer's plates.

poemdexter
Feb 18, 2005

Hooray Indie Games!

College Slice

Ardennes posted:

I am surprised there isn't even greater labor shortages in food service considering the amount of effort/time versus the pay. You would think restaurant owners would be just microwaving food in the back and plopping it down on customer's plates.

you’d be surprised how many small town diners are just heated up Sysco prepackaged garbage.

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

capitalism is good

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