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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Yes 420 4.43%
No 69 0.73%
Goku 9001 94.85%
Total: 9490 votes
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Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Thinking about it, I wonder if somebody there was scrambling to remove things like

code:
	if (author_is_elon):
		visible_impressions*=4
		display_false_impressions()
		#don't let him see this!!!
before the code was released.

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BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
https://twitter.com/mnateshyamalan/status/1641892573877870593?s=46&t=G1x8XWIwrNxUQoXItlkh2w

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
There was something inconsequential in there with a folder dated 2014. So they didn't bother/know how to clean it.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Tarkus posted:

Thinking about it, I wonder if somebody there was scrambling to remove things like

code:
	if (author_is_elon):
		visible_impressions*=4
		display_false_impressions()
		#don't let him see this!!!
before the code was released.

They didn't release the actual weights in the part of the code they released, that part is still unknown and supposedly is going to be released later

https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1641902570921943044

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

lol tomorrow is going to be so, so bad for Elon and I'm all here for it

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1641906265944203267

twitter is just going to be (even more) chaos

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010

kazil posted:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1641906265944203267

twitter is just going to be (even more) chaos

Elon sobbing in the Engineer's Room: "CATTURD HATES ME! FIX IT! FIX IT ALL SO HE'LL BE MY FRIEND!"

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒
the world is our focus group but also our beta testers and all suggestions are going into the final product in real time

I believe this will work well for a global product with a userbase in the half billion range

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?

Daztek posted:

not yet, but they're fixing bugs tho



:allears:

Without being able to unit test changes, any suggested “fix” is worthless right? Who knows if this would actually boost Blue users or just cause the whole loving platform the collapse.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

LASER BEAM DREAM posted:

Without being able to unit test changes, any suggested “fix” is worthless right? Who knows if this would actually boost Blue users or just cause the whole loving platform the collapse.

it makes it so blue check stuff doesn't show :ssh:

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/blob/main/visibilitylib/src/main/scala/com/twitter/visibility/rules/FreedomOfSpeechNotReach.scala

Of course something with this name exists.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.







these are obviously functions to reduce the freeze peach of leftists!

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
They scrubbed the commit history so nobody can see elon added that code himself

meat police
Nov 14, 2015

Strong Sauce posted:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1636838845894279168
"not fully understood internally", that's cause you fired everyone you moron

Is he banking on outsourcing code improvements to community contributors?

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1641908130274525187

Elon didn't know anything about author_is_elon

source: elon

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Yes.

https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/blob/main/visibilitylib/src/main/scala/com/twitter/visibility/rules/PublicInterestRules.scala This file is intriguing, but I'm not the right sort of nerd to decode it properly.

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010
https://twitter.com/kjhealy/status/...%5Es1_&ref_url=

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
so is this also for catshit? like we know Catshit's real legal meatspace name, does he have anything to suggest he actual has computer touching education and can help code fix himself

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

not really, it's just the object for categorizing types of hateful or abusive conduct and some functions to interface with it, no real logic or anything

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

Mozi posted:

not really, it's just the object for categorizing types of hateful or abusive conduct and some functions to interface with it, no real logic or anything

Fair enough. I was mostly drawn to the bit toward the end where it starts:



as it seems to exclude the majority of them.

ryde
Sep 9, 2011

God I love young girls

Its an implementation of a rule engine that changes the visibility of Twitter posts.

quote:

Visibility Filtering is a centralized rule engine that instructs clients how to alter the display of certain Twitter content on read time. The Visibility Filtering library is responsible for filtering Twitter content to support legal compliance, improve product quality, increase user trust, protect revenue through the use of hard-filtering, visible product treatments, and coarse-grained downranking.

Those are the different rules that can effect visibility of Tweets.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

goatface posted:

Fair enough. I was mostly drawn to the bit toward the end where it starts:



as it seems to exclude the majority of them.

there's nothing being excluded really, that's like a separate list. given the file is the public interest rules i guess that probably covers the types of things that are considered public interest? who knows. but that list isn't including or excluding (or mapping to) any particular violation reason

I Greyhound
Apr 22, 2008

MusicKrew Dawn Patrol

Truely the reverse start-up Enlo wanted it to be.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
So it's not a joke it's covering democrats and republicans separately?

Musk does not that Twitters like a worldwide service right, and Democrat and Republican is a thing that isn't actually relevant outside the US?

Lammasu
May 8, 2019

lawful Good Monster

I Greyhound posted:

Truely the reverse start-up Enlo wanted it to be.

How long till he realizes that only horrible people buy checkmarks and they are the exact same people that will drive people from Twitter when they are promoted.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



he won't because he's one of them and will simply choose to believe a leftist conspiracy of advertisers to destroy capitalism

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Elon somewhat knows his ideas are terrible and are killing twitter but he's too proud to admit he's wrong and dumb so he just keeps powering through with even worse ideas

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?

dr_rat posted:

So it's not a joke it's covering democrats and republicans separately?

Musk does not that Twitters like a worldwide service right, and Democrat and Republican is a thing that isn't actually relevant outside the US?

Supposedly it's for "metrics".

code:
    val featureMap = FeatureMapBuilder()
      .add(AccountAgeFeature, query.getOptionalUserId.flatMap(SnowflakeId.timeFromIdOpt))
      .add(ClientIdFeature, query.clientContext.appId)
      /**
       * These author ID lists are used purely for metrics collection. We track how often we are
       * serving Tweets from these authors and how often their tweets are being impressed by users.
       * This helps us validate in our A/B experimentation platform that we do not ship changes
       * that negatively impacts one group over others.
       */
      .add(DDGStatsDemocratsFeature, ddgStatsAuthors.longSeq(Democrats).toSet)
      .add(DDGStatsRepublicansFeature, ddgStatsAuthors.longSeq(Republicans).toSet)
      .add(DDGStatsVitsFeature, ddgStatsAuthors.longSeq(Vits).toSet)
      .add(DDGStatsElonFeature, ddgStatsAuthors.longValue(Elon))

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

kazil posted:

Elon somewhat knows his ideas are terrible and are killing twitter but he's too proud to admit he's wrong and dumb so he just keeps powering through with even worse ideas

you are giving Elon way to much credit
He bought the site that has never made a profit for $44 billion

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

LASER BEAM DREAM posted:

Supposedly it's for "metrics".

I mean that fine I guess? Does raise more questions about why twitter doesn't want metrics from any other groups than those four though.

Like advertisers love demographic metrics. I assume they are collecting that sort of information somewhere, but like than... okay yeah I shouldn't be expecting twitters code to make any sense at the moment.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


Nothing like that slow realisation that wait that person wasn't poo poo posting, author_is_elon is loving real

Lmfao

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

dr_rat posted:

So it's not a joke it's covering democrats and republicans separately?

Musk does not that Twitters like a worldwide service right, and Democrat and Republican is a thing that isn't actually relevant outside the US?

We've seen videos of American tourists overseas getting arrested for indecent public behavior and screaming that they're protected by the first amendment. These people are galaxy brained.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Animal-Mother posted:

We've seen videos of American tourists overseas getting arrested for indecent public behavior and screaming that they're protected by the first amendment. These people are galaxy brained.

That's because most people don't undestand what the the first amendment means.

fanny packrat
Mar 24, 2018
Dumb question probably, but do they determine who is democrat or republican? I don't have twitter, but they can't be directly soliciting that information from users, right?

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

fanny packrat posted:

Dumb question probably, but do they determine who is democrat or republican? I don't have twitter, but they can't be directly soliciting that information from users, right?

probably tracking accounts of republican or democrat politicians

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

For what it's worth, this is really just giving us a glimpse of the whole environment. Best to take any "AHA HERE IS THE CODE THAT SILENCES THE RIGHT/LEFT" seriously, particularly when it's talking heads/viral accounts and not developers claiming it.

The carve out for Elon was probably something added in the past few months as some unlucky coder was tasked making the boy king happy. It is hilarious that he wasn't aware of it or that no one caught it before publishing this.

fanny packrat posted:

Dumb question probably, but do they determine who is democrat or republican? I don't have twitter, but they can't be directly soliciting that information from users, right?

Not a dumb question. You could make a pretty educated guess which way someone leans by who they follow + what things they're liking. Like if someone follows Obama and Jon Stewart, +5 liberal points. If someone likes Obama and Jon Stewarts posts, +20 liberal points, etc. Imagine the engagement matters more than the following.

CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Apr 1, 2023

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

fanny packrat posted:

Dumb question probably, but do they determine who is democrat or republican? I don't have twitter, but they can't be directly soliciting that information from users, right?

I am a socialist

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

I find it very interesting that certain types of users would be singled out in lines of code. Presumably Twitter is an international company and they would have the ability to tag and regionalize a whole variety of different types and alignments of users outside of (musk, power users, democrats, republicans)

I suspect that the code we're seeing is some weird bolted on nonsense, perhaps even under the supervision of musk or simply to show musk. I wonder if anything the function calls does anything or if the function is called at all. As was said already, without the supporting data all of this code is completely worthless.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
lol Elon's dickriders are all over the replies of these celebrities saying they won't pay for Twitter.

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dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

CatstropheWaitress posted:

or that no one caught it before publishing this.

I assume musk just told them last minute, no he was actually serious about publishing it, and no one had anytime to do anything other than the quickest check they didn't copy+past anything halfway through a line of code or whatever.

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