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bartok posted:What's the goofiest and least painful looking submission move? When people started tapping out to the Giant Swing
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I would much rather tap to the giant swing than puke in the ring, the inevitable conclusion
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Why was Orton vs Edge at Backlash billed as the Greatest Wrestling Match Ever TM?
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Mar 31, 2023 08:45
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Wasn’t some other match being hailed as the greatest wrestling match ever around then so they decided to have an official greatest wrestling match ever because SEO and spite
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bartok posted:What's the goofiest and least painful looking submission move? As much as I love YOSHI-HASHI I'm saying the Butterfly Lock.
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When was the last time a ROH Pure match went to the judges? What interesting stuff have they done in the past to bring the judges into play?
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they did use the Benoit weight lifting machine spot which was quite a choice  I remember the second match after the Greatest match of all time being like 10x better
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Nehru the Damaja posted:When people started tapping out to the Giant Swing That was cool because it wasn't because it hurt its because it was the only way to get it to stop because Claudio is a beast
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Mar 31, 2023 18:21
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Why did WWE randomly use licensed music ("All the Things She Said") for Victoria in the early '00s? They never presented her as being on that Lita/Trish level, and the song wasn't part of any WWE-adjacent albums that I'm aware of. Like even the theme songs for Lita/Trish with real singers were WWE in-house productions.
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Mar 31, 2023 19:40
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Can i get a list of people who never really did much but where considered good hands so basically have a job for life in one of the bigger companies from the attitude era? Who is basically brooklyn brawler who had their run between 96 and 99. Malenko would probably be one, never really got prime billing but has basically been a producer in both wwe and aew.
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Mar 31, 2023 19:58
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Answers Me posted:When was the last time a ROH Pure match went to the judges? What interesting stuff have they done in the past to bring the judges into play? Defenestrategy posted:Can i get a list of people who never really did much but where considered good hands so basically have a job for life in one of the bigger companies from the attitude era?
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Mar 31, 2023 20:30
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Defenestrategy posted:Can i get a list of people who never really did much but where considered good hands so basically have a job for life in one of the bigger companies from the attitude era? Dean Malenko wasn't considered a good hand he was a known top tier in ring talent and given actual pushes. Wasn't Brawler kept around more for nepotism reasons? A good hand is more like someone like Brad Armstrong, where it's half compliment, half kiss of death.
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Mar 31, 2023 20:36
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Not jobs for life, but Val Venis and I think the Godfather were kept around in the WWE for much longer than you would expect because they were seen as "good hands", solid journeyman wrestlers who could be used for try-out matches for new talent. If you couldnt have a decent match with Val you probably werent much use to the WWE. Plus their gimmicks could get a nice easy pop in dark matches to warm up the crowd.
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Dr. Quarex posted:I think about this every time I see a Pure match. I want the judges to have to do something!!! I WANT TO HEAR FROM JERRY LYNN The pen and paper is a nice touch. There's no scorecard so I can only imagine they're scrawling 'I THINK YUTA WON'
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Mar 31, 2023 20:50
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Scotty too Hotty was employed for years as a result of his attitude era run. Enhancement talent until about 1998, then jobber tag team for a few years, a red hot period for 6 months and solidly in the low midcard for over half a decade before getting released, and then years working as a trainer.
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Mar 31, 2023 21:41
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I feel like the Headbangers were around for a while as good hands, enough that I’d see them outside of wrestling and on TV shows like Real World/Road Rules, where if they had a wrestling theme show then the Headbangers were the ones who showed them the ropes.
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Mar 31, 2023 21:48
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The headbangers sucked in the ring from what I remember
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They weren't much of a tag team, but whichever one that was repackaged as Chaz and ended up in Lo-Down with D-Lo was a serviceable wrestler, probably with "midcard" as his ceiling.
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Minidust posted:Why did WWE randomly use licensed music ("All the Things She Said") for Victoria in the early '00s? They never presented her as being on that Lita/Trish level, and the song wasn't part of any WWE-adjacent albums that I'm aware of. Like even the theme songs for Lita/Trish with real singers were WWE in-house productions. Most of this is hearsay, but IIRC Victoria was a fan of theirs and asked to use it. But also Tatu were very trendy at the time and had crossover popularity, and WWE even had TV segments interviewing them to promote Victoria's cool new music. They were also deep into the era of presenting Divas as sex objects, so they attached a band consisting of Russian faux-lesbian schoolgirls just so they could sell more sex, since Victoria never leaned into that part of being a Diva.
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Mar 31, 2023 22:43
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edogawa rando posted:They weren't much of a tag team, but whichever one that was repackaged as Chaz and ended up in Lo-Down with D-Lo was a serviceable wrestler, probably with "midcard" as his ceiling.
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jesus WEP posted:that was mosh and yeah fair, he was not too bad Headbanger Mosh was also one of two wrestlers the Rock picked out along with Crash Holly as the two people he had to watch out for in the 2000 Royal Rumble, so he was obviously a legitimate threat in the ring.
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Mar 31, 2023 23:48
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Headbanger Mosh was the better wrestler, but I think Headbanger Thrasher was the one who said "UGH I THINK I SWALLOWED MY TONGUE RING" in WWF Attitude/Warzone, so who's to say which was the better Headbanger
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Scotty too Hotty was employed for years as a result of his attitude era run. Enhancement talent until about 1998, then jobber tag team for a few years, a red hot period for 6 months and solidly in the low midcard for over half a decade before getting released, and then years working as a trainer. The insane part is that I know intellectually they where only red hot for six months, but I keep falsely thinking that the period between New Age Outlaws being the on top tag team and The TLC Three being on top was like two years of Too Cool. MassRafTer posted:Dean Malenko wasn't considered a good hand he was a known top tier in ring talent and given actual pushes. Was he? in WCW I don't remember him crashing through the cruiserweight/technical guy ceiling and in WWF I don't remember him doing anything of note except for a feud with the hardy's for a few weeks and being worried about his friends CTE (saturn)
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I remember hearing someone (Pritchard?) say they brought in The Goon with no expectations of pushing him, they just needed an experienced hand on the roster to work with guys.
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Defenestrategy posted:The insane part is that I know intellectually they where only red hot for six months, but I keep falsely thinking that the period between New Age Outlaws being the on top tag team and The TLC Three being on top was like two years of Too Cool. He got the US title and it's not like the cruiserweight title was a joke title when he held it, plus the stuff with the Horsemen. He was never pushed as a top guy but he was given real pushes in the midcard.
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MassRafTer posted:He got the US title and it's not like the cruiserweight title was a joke title when he held it, plus the stuff with the Horsemen. He was never pushed as a top guy but he was given real pushes in the midcard. Yeah, this. Dean Malenko hit the ceiling for a short technical guy in WCW, but you could hit that ceiling and still be a deeply respected wrestler and considered one of the best at the time. Doing nothing with him and treating him like a generic good hand is in fact a sign that WCW was starting to fall apart in 1998.
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Defenestrategy posted:The insane part is that I know intellectually they where only red hot for six months, but I keep falsely thinking that the period between New Age Outlaws being the on top tag team and The TLC Three being on top was like two years of Too Cool. I know what you mean. It probably helps both that they were INSANELY over for a bit, especially with Rikishi, and I want to say Vince's arbitrary decision to turn Rikishi heel was part of the end of their fame though the timeline might actually not line up there.
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Has there ever been a squash ladder match?
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Gavok posted:Has there ever been a squash ladder match? Undertaker vs Jeff Hardy in 2002 is the most one sided that comes to mind
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What about table match? Anyone just immediately get thrown off the apron through one or something
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Sex Farm posted:What about table match? Anyone just immediately get thrown off the apron through one or something The Big Show vs. Cody table match was a squash until Cody won lol
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Dr. Quarex posted:I know what you mean. It probably helps both that they were INSANELY over for a bit, especially with Rikishi, and I want to say Vince's arbitrary decision to turn Rikishi heel was part of the end of their fame though the timeline might actually not line up there. They peaked with their tag title win in May 2000 then they dropped way down the card after losing the titles. By the time Rikishi turned Sexay/Hotty we’re back to being opening match job guys.
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Crush was a weird one, he hung around WWE from roughly 1991 to 1998, was usually treated as a credible enough threat, meanwhile his highest profile matches were losing to Doink, losing to Yokozuna, losing to Shawn Michaels and losing to Macho Man
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Barry Bluejeans posted:The Big Show vs. Cody table match was a squash until Cody won lol Big Show squashed the table!
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MassRafTer posted:He got the US title and it's not like the cruiserweight title was a joke title when he held it, plus the stuff with the Horsemen. He was never pushed as a top guy but he was given real pushes in the midcard. The pop he got when he took off the mask and attacked Jericho isn't insignificant either
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DeathChicken posted:Crush…losing to Macho Man He tried so hard to make it look like he was still tied up, poor guy.
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SiKboy posted:Not jobs for life, but Val Venis and I think the Godfather were kept around in the WWE for much longer than you would expect because they were seen as "good hands", solid journeyman wrestlers who could be used for try-out matches for new talent. If you couldnt have a decent match with Val you probably werent much use to the WWE. Plus their gimmicks could get a nice easy pop in dark matches to warm up the crowd.
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After Vikingo vs Speedball at springbreak yesterday the crowd tossed a bunch of money into the ring. Is that a common practice at indy shows to show your appreciation for a match?
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Defenestrategy posted:After Vikingo vs Speedball at springbreak yesterday the crowd tossed a bunch of money into the ring. Is that a common practice at indy shows to show your appreciation for a match? It's common in lucha, caught on in the states due to SoCal indies
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Defenestrategy posted:After Vikingo vs Speedball at springbreak yesterday the crowd tossed a bunch of money into the ring. Is that a common practice at indy shows to show your appreciation for a match? it is a lucha thing, jericho complained in his autobiography that it actually loving hurt when it was coins.
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