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You Are A Elf posted:Does zombie Simpsons still do three second musical montages every episode? It seems like it was ~*a thing*~ for awhile that every episode have three seconds of licensed music for some reason. There's a montage every episode, it seems. It's usually longer than 3 seconds though; I can't recall anything that matches what you're talking about but it seems like it would be very forgettable if it is happening a lot. Tons of cartoons do long montages set to music though. I think it's just a really lazy way to kill time. It's hardly ever funny, but I guess it's 30 seconds less television show that you have to write. "OK, Bart has a bunch of fireworks and he's pranking people around town with them. Give me the first 5 scenarios you can think of and we'll set it to 'Have a Blast' by Green Day."
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I don't watch that often anymore, but every time I do there's a cringey segment where Homer just belts out some musical style song like he's making it up as he goes. Probably because the writers jotted down whatever they first thought of and went with it.
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Apr 2, 2023 20:03
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Like they remember him singing “Little Spanish Flea” in his car and they think the lyrics are the funny part and not that he’s singing it alone in the parking lot of a concert
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Apr 2, 2023 20:17
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Completely oblivious to the SWAT team and heavy police presence engulfing his car, to boot.
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Apr 2, 2023 21:12
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Also you can't do the Spanish Flea bit anymore because part of the humour was that Homer was often happy and whimsical in silly ways that he just can't be now because the writing is too cynical. Him and Marge finding wholesome joy in simple things was always a cute joke, and helped make them seem more affable as characters.
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Apr 2, 2023 21:13
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Like PostNouveau said, it has something to do with songs netting you more residuals. I don't exactly understand how it works, but I've heard coworkers on the writing/producing end joke about a few times now.
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Apr 2, 2023 21:13
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If they did it today it would be 90 seconds long and involve dancing through the whole town
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Apr 2, 2023 21:14
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PostNouveau posted:There's a montage every episode, it seems. It's usually longer than 3 seconds though; I can't recall anything that matches what you're talking about but it seems like it would be very forgettable if it is happening a lot. Das Boo posted:Like PostNouveau said, it has something to do with songs netting you more residuals. I don't exactly understand how it works, but I've heard coworkers on the writing/producing end joke about a few times now. Thank you both 
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emgeejay posted:we need writers who know what the cash register says when maggie is scanned I don't think NRA4EVER is the kind of messaging the show needs Maximum Sexy Pigeon posted:The previous talk about Homer At The Bat possibly being the best episode holds up. I wouldn't call it the best, but I think it's definitely the first one that hit every single classic Simpsons note perfectly. It's also a charming little time capsule of a time when Americans still loved baseball, before the strike really hosed them up for decades. It also reminds me that me and my idiot friend were walking around at age 13 or 14 occasionally saying 'hOOOOOnus Wagner' at each other Das Boo posted:Like PostNouveau said, it has something to do with songs netting you more residuals. I don't exactly understand how it works, but I've heard coworkers on the writing/producing end joke about a few times now. I want the person responsible for me strolling around asking Who Needs the Quik-E-Mart and telling people the schoolyard's up and the shopping mall's down to get paid handsomely.
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Apr 2, 2023 22:59
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I had a whole CD with all the good songs so i too will never get them out of my brain Let's hurl a brick-e-mart!
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Das Boo posted:Like PostNouveau said, it has something to do with songs netting you more residuals. I don't exactly understand how it works, but I've heard coworkers on the writing/producing end joke about a few times now. I get the sense it's like Gene Roddenberry writing lyrics for the Star Trek theme so he could claim royalties.
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Dixville posted:I had a whole CD with all the good songs so i too will never get them out of my brain Songs in the Key of Springfield is a great CD and I think I still have my copy of it somewhere. Also had The Simpsons Sing the Blues on cassette. I love Robert Goulet’s version of Jingle Bells, if not for the “Oh! I’m sorry, kid!” Milhouse microphone smack. It’s such a great reading along with “Vera said that?”
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Apr 3, 2023 01:32
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I was born in the mid '80s but my first experience with the Simpsons was through Songs In the Key of Springfield. Still one of my favorite albums.
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womb with a view posted:Also you can't do the Spanish Flea bit anymore because part of the humour was that Homer was often happy and whimsical in silly ways that he just can't be now because the writing is too cynical. Him and Marge finding wholesome joy in simple things was always a cute joke, and helped make them seem more affable as characters. And that he's just killing time while the boys are in a rock concert, having his kind of fun while he lets them have theirs. The kind of bits where Homer is legit a good dad, he's there the whole time if they need him.
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the stonecutters song is the best simpsons song
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The Planet of the Apes musical gets stuck in my head a lot.
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Actually an underrated part of sitcom goofy dads is when they can be genuinely easygoing and likeable. Daria's dad also comes to mind, a high-strung neurotic with clear PTSD but he actually gets along really well with the young people when he's not trying to market to them.
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They had that little game on Twitter awhile back where you assign 4 fictional characters to best represent yourself. It was then I realized my dad is just Dexter's dad from Dexter's Lab, straight up.
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Apr 3, 2023 08:21
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The fun joke there is realising Dexter and Dee-Dee's parents are just them gender-swapped. Also I kinda love about this thread dissecting what makes bad Simpsons bad by contrasting it with the good stuff and figuring out what parts actually work, why they work and how those elements are used in other media.
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womb with a view posted:Also you can't do the Spanish Flea bit anymore because part of the humour was that Homer was often happy and whimsical in silly ways that he just can't be now because the writing is too cynical. Him and Marge finding wholesome joy in simple things was always a cute joke, and helped make them seem more affable as characters.  marge's go-go outfit is everything
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Das Boo posted:The Planet of the Apes musical gets stuck in my head a lot.
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Marge and Homer finding a turkey behind the bed was funny and quaint back in the mid 90s but now the average American eats a whole turkey every day so it'd be like "why did they include this?"
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Toxic Mental posted:Marge and Homer finding a turkey behind the bed was funny and quaint back in the mid 90s but now the average American eats a whole turkey every day so it'd be like "why did they include this?" Good example of where Homer's spontaneous singing started to feel implausible and weird, and it's in season 5. e: so was the Be Sharps. I wonder if they were consciously trying to make it a "thing"
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The little extra lines they put in there like the honey roasted peanuts thing were also funny I feel like for me the Mary Poppins episode was the first one that felt slightly forced. There may have been some good stuff after that too that was just the turning point for me if i remember right.
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I think about the peanuts guy a lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo32N5c3kxM
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I have sometimes wondered if the Planet of the Apes musical was actually the show's finest moment just because of how hard it is to make poo poo like that actually funny
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JAMOOOL posted:I have sometimes wondered if the Planet of the Apes musical was actually the show's finest moment just because of how hard it is to make poo poo like that actually funny God seriously phil hartman on those songs got his tone and the awkwardness and absurdity of the planet of the apes musical just perfect. You may actually be right. It's hard to think of something i like even more.
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Spotify had songs in the key of Springfield so i had to listen to it. There's that gag where the mufasa ghost in the clouds says "you must avenge my death kimba-uh i mean simba " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_White_Lion As a kid I actually found the kimba the white lion tape at some store and bought it and watched it quite a few times. I had no idea lion king was supposed to have been a ripoff of it. I think this may have been mentioned in the commentary on the dvd version or maybe i heard about it some other way. Either way i heard that gag tons of times because i listened to the cd so much and i just never connected the two. drat there are so many layers to that joke. The james earl jones 4th wall break by referencing the other voices he's done, the lion king reference, bad mouthing disney...
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JAMOOOL posted:I have sometimes wondered if the Planet of the Apes musical was actually the show's finest moment just because of how hard it is to make poo poo like that actually funny It was amazing even without ever watching any live musicals or the Apes movies, and became better after I actually did. I think it's 90% because it was simply very well thought out, written, performed and animated. From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z. The fact that it references and completely subverts the point of the Planet of the Apes in favor of musical sensibilities puts it over the top. I love you Dr. Zaius!
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iamsosmrt posted:From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z. i think about this line probably once a week so god drat clever
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iamsosmrt posted:It was amazing even without ever watching any live musicals or the Apes movies, and became better after I actually did. I think it's 90% because it was simply very well thought out, written, performed and animated. From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z. he can talk he can talk he can talk he can talk he can talk I CAN SIIIIIIIING!!!! I've never seen Planet of the Apes either 
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You Are A Elf posted:I think about the peanuts guy a lot. That's one thing in particular I love about classic Simpsons - it seemed to have a lot more jokes that had nothing to do with the plot, or involved any of the main characters, but just exquisitely come and go. This is a clip I think about quite a bit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMekckJqIwQ
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Can I play the piano anymore? Of course you can! Well I couldn't before! *sweet piano lick*
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So the Planet of the Apes episode is from S7, but the Streetcar Named Desire upbeat musical was S4. A little rougher perhaps but even more of a wild rear end skewering than Planet of the Apes imo.
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It's hard to top a song that actually gets you in hot water with the city of New Orleans.
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Dixville posted:The little extra lines they put in there like the honey roasted peanuts thing were also funny I can't help but think "pressed peanut scrapings" every time I see a can of nuts.
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Both the Streetcar and the Planet of the Apes parodies were great. The Mary Poppins thing from season eight had some OK moments but it was mostly pretty lame.
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The only other scene I can think of that might be better than planet of the apes would be the monorail song. Which is also driven by Phil Hartman, not surprising but interesting. God, we lost him too loving soon. Sorry it just always hurts to think of what great stuff he would have done. I think simpsons started to lose its spark after he died. Maybe a coincidence, they were in season 9 or 10 when he died i guess. I consider that about when the decline started though. Maybe it's already been brought up I haven't read every part of this thread. But I never really thought about the timing before. I do remember them dedicating an episode to him, I remember when it aired.
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You Are A Elf posted:I think about the peanuts guy a lot. If this joke were in a current season you'd have someone in the crowd go, "uh, sir, I think you missed"
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Dixville posted:The only other scene I can think of that might be better than planet of the apes would be the monorail song. Which is also driven by Phil Hartman, not surprising but interesting. God, we lost him too loving soon. Sorry it just always hurts to think of what great stuff he would have done. My mom & I were absolutely obsessed with NewsRadio, and I was obsessed with The Simpsons, and Phil Hartman's death was the first celebrity death that reeeeeeeally got to me. 
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