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Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
I read a sample of a book that sounded interesting but just, no. The synopsis basically says this guy can dimension hop because of an Aboriginal fertility deity doll. He met his dream girl at a bar where he was a bartender so naturally she's perfect, she's tattooed, she's skinny she's into and all the same stuff he is total fantasy girl, and literally has a best friend who turns out to be a hot lesbian pornstar.

The thing that really killed it for me was as nice as the relationship talk in the book was, and there wasn't any? explicit sex, it was mainly that they threw in a moment where the main character's girlfriend asks him not to watch her best friend's porn videos that she's famous for, while said friend is sitting with them at the bar. He agrees, and they go on with their lives... OR DO THEY? So naturally she catches him watching said porn videos and is way over the top upset for some reason and they argue and she runs out of the house, she runs down the street, she runs out in the road and gets hit by a car and dies. To make this extra sad he doesn't find out until the next day so he feels extra guilty for his baitin' habit.

So now this schmuck has to go from dimension to dimension trying to find this perfect girlfriend again because of porn. It was the dumbest loving setup I have ever heard for any kind of a book regarding dimensions and alternate worlds.

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grittyreboot
Oct 2, 2012

Funny that this thread should be revived now. I Don't Even Own A Television just released their final episode today. I haven't listened to it yet, but it seems like they ended the podcast on good terms with each other. Not a surprise since they only released one ep this year, but still a little sad. http://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/2023/04/01/174-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-fun/

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I read a sample of a book that sounded interesting but just, no. The synopsis basically says this guy can dimension hop because of an Aboriginal fertility deity doll. He met his dream girl at a bar where he was a bartender so naturally she's perfect, she's tattooed, she's skinny she's into and all the same stuff he is total fantasy girl, and literally has a best friend who turns out to be a hot lesbian pornstar.

The thing that really killed it for me was as nice as the relationship talk in the book was, and there wasn't any? explicit sex, it was mainly that they threw in a moment where the main character's girlfriend asks him not to watch her best friend's porn videos that she's famous for, while said friend is sitting with them at the bar. He agrees, and they go on with their lives... OR DO THEY? So naturally she catches him watching said porn videos and is way over the top upset for some reason and they argue and she runs out of the house, she runs down the street, she runs out in the road and gets hit by a car and dies. To make this extra sad he doesn't find out until the next day so he feels extra guilty for his baitin' habit.

So now this schmuck has to go from dimension to dimension trying to find this perfect girlfriend again because of porn. It was the dumbest loving setup I have ever heard for any kind of a book regarding dimensions and alternate worlds.

This sounds so weirdly specific that I kinda suspect it might be partly autobiographical. Some guy hosed up his relationship by watching porn of his partner's friends, and now copes by writing a weird rambling story about how he could totally have fixed it in another world.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Perestroika posted:

This sounds so weirdly specific that I kinda suspect it might be partly autobiographical. Some guy hosed up his relationship by watching porn of his partner's friends, and now copes by writing a weird rambling story about how he could totally have fixed it in another world.

Even odds on whether the happy ending is he finds her identical copy whose only difference is she's cool with friend porn or that he gets with alternate lesbian porn star who's not lesbian in that reality.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I read a sample of a book that sounded interesting but just, no. The synopsis basically says this guy can dimension hop because of an Aboriginal fertility deity doll. He met his dream girl at a bar where he was a bartender so naturally she's perfect, she's tattooed, she's skinny she's into and all the same stuff he is total fantasy girl, and literally has a best friend who turns out to be a hot lesbian pornstar.

The thing that really killed it for me was as nice as the relationship talk in the book was, and there wasn't any? explicit sex, it was mainly that they threw in a moment where the main character's girlfriend asks him not to watch her best friend's porn videos that she's famous for, while said friend is sitting with them at the bar. He agrees, and they go on with their lives... OR DO THEY? So naturally she catches him watching said porn videos and is way over the top upset for some reason and they argue and she runs out of the house, she runs down the street, she runs out in the road and gets hit by a car and dies. To make this extra sad he doesn't find out until the next day so he feels extra guilty for his baitin' habit.

So now this schmuck has to go from dimension to dimension trying to find this perfect girlfriend again because of porn. It was the dumbest loving setup I have ever heard for any kind of a book regarding dimensions and alternate worlds.

It's always gotta be cars, doesn't it?

and also I saw this episode of Voyager it was one of the few great episodes

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

Corpse runner

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I read a sample of a book that sounded interesting but just, no. The synopsis basically says this guy can dimension hop because of an Aboriginal fertility deity doll. He met his dream girl at a bar where he was a bartender so naturally she's perfect, she's tattooed, she's skinny she's into and all the same stuff he is total fantasy girl, and literally has a best friend who turns out to be a hot lesbian pornstar.

The thing that really killed it for me was as nice as the relationship talk in the book was, and there wasn't any? explicit sex, it was mainly that they threw in a moment where the main character's girlfriend asks him not to watch her best friend's porn videos that she's famous for, while said friend is sitting with them at the bar. He agrees, and they go on with their lives... OR DO THEY? So naturally she catches him watching said porn videos and is way over the top upset for some reason and they argue and she runs out of the house, she runs down the street, she runs out in the road and gets hit by a car and dies. To make this extra sad he doesn't find out until the next day so he feels extra guilty for his baitin' habit.

So now this schmuck has to go from dimension to dimension trying to find this perfect girlfriend again because of porn. It was the dumbest loving setup I have ever heard for any kind of a book regarding dimensions and alternate worlds.

This sounds like the most self-indulgent Sliders fanfic.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
The most interesting take on supernatural mystery that I read was this neat mystery novel called The 7 1/2 Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle by Stuart Turton, where the protagonist finds himself at a party that he doesn't remember being invited to or attending, and in a body that is not his own. He is tasked by an entity to solve the death of the titular character, who is also the party's hostess, and as the book goes on he learns more and more rules about what plays out as a bizarre supernatural game that he's having to play. The rules were interesting and consistent from what I remember and how the mystery plays out is fairly satisfying as the protagonist learns the rules and grows better and better and using his resources effectively.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Might be the wrong thread dude.

I agree with the sliders fanfic comment on mine though, I was thinking quantum leap but will he ever find his girl and leap back home?

The answer is : no one cares. this book loving sucks.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


BioEnchanted posted:

The most interesting take on supernatural mystery that I read was this neat mystery novel called The 7 1/2 Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle by Stuart Turton, where the protagonist finds himself at a party that he doesn't remember being invited to or attending, and in a body that is not his own. He is tasked by an entity to solve the death of the titular character, who is also the party's hostess, and as the book goes on he learns more and more rules about what plays out as a bizarre supernatural game that he's having to play. The rules were interesting and consistent from what I remember and how the mystery plays out is fairly satisfying as the protagonist learns the rules and grows better and better and using his resources effectively.

I tried reading that book but had to dip out when the main character, who body hops whenever time resets, is in the body of an overweight guy and the whole thing becomes just about how gross the fat guy is and how awful it is to be fat and just goes way over the top.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



muscles like this! posted:

I tried reading that book but had to dip out when the main character, who body hops whenever time resets, is in the body of an overweight guy and the whole thing becomes just about how gross the fat guy is and how awful it is to be fat and just goes way over the top.

Lol, somehow this was the comment that made me remember that I actually had read that book. Not the neat overall premise, just a fat guy being fat.

Back in bad books land, another thing that's been entertaining me through multiple authors is nonsensical geography. I read one story about aliens stalking people trapped in a snowstorm. The funny part was that the book was set in Indiana, and this crippling snowstorm (specifically the worst Indiana had seen in centuries) was supposed to amount to...six to eight inches. AKA a normal snowstorm you could see there in any given winter. And some of the characters were also in the area to stay at a cabin in the mountains for their yearly ski trip. Indiana has hills, not mountains. They're nice, but the author treated this like it was way up somewhere in the Rockies instead of the corn belt. It really made me think they had somewhere else in mind, and just put Indiana in instead for some unknown reason.

Another one I read after that involved the characters needing to drive from Montana to Illinois for some deadline. Somehow, without any reason given, they wound up in Texas along the way. You know, just a day-long detour for no particular reason? The story eventually turned out to be about the characters being dead all along and journeying to their final resting place or something, I was sure there was going to be a plot point about the geography going all surreal because of that. But nope, it was never relevant to anything at all. The author just put Texas in there as if it were somewhere you'd naturally arrive at between Montana and Illinois, without any mention of detours or extra travel time. I love it.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Were these written by Britons, because I am getting some strong "British people who have heard of certain US states" vibes

WarpDogs
May 1, 2009

I'm just a normal, functioning member of the human race, and there's no way anyone can prove otherwise.

grittyreboot posted:

Funny that this thread should be revived now. I Don't Even Own A Television just released their final episode today. I haven't listened to it yet, but it seems like they ended the podcast on good terms with each other. Not a surprise since they only released one ep this year, but still a little sad. http://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/2023/04/01/174-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-fun/

I could never get into IDEOAT, their style of humor just hit me wrong. Still sad to see them go, even if it was inevitable

I'd definitely recommend 372 Pages We'll Never Get Back, though. It's a slightly different premise - they look at bad books, but in book club format - but it's very funny and well done. I don't even read the books and still find a ton of enjoyment listening to the RiffTrax guys make jokes and get exasperated at bad prose and absurd dialogue

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Antivehicular posted:

Were these written by Britons, because I am getting some strong "British people who have heard of certain US states" vibes

Interesting, the first author isn't from the US but moved here at some point, so who knows what their actual experience is. The other one I lost track of the title, so no idea where the author's from.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Antivehicular posted:

Were these written by Britons, because I am getting some strong "British people who have heard of certain US states" vibes

Oh boy, the comic I've been translating has had a lot of that problem. My personal favourite being a prisoner who is to be taken by train from Alabama to Texas - sure, that's ok. But he's told to break out halfway there and hide himself in the Rockies.

Oh, and before they reach the train station, they're leaving Alabama by wagon and going first to Topeka, Kansas.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Code Kansas!

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


Now take that, spell it backwards, drop the S.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Antivehicular posted:

Were these written by Britons, because I am getting some strong "British people who have heard of certain US states" vibes

As a Londoner I get that so often with urban fantasy writers who set stuff in London but who've very obviously never been closer than a quick glance at Google Maps.

The Alex Verus books, for example, give the very strong impression of a writer who's picking random London locations because they sound cool (as well as being tedious and crap in other ways).

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



That's funny, and I was just thinking about it after my US examples. I've read tons of books set in the UK too and just assumed the author knew what they were doing, but they're probably slipping dumb stuff by me left and right.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Captain Hygiene posted:

That's funny, and I was just thinking about it after my US examples. I've read tons of books set in the UK too and just assumed the author knew what they were doing, but they're probably slipping dumb stuff by me left and right.

Films are good for that too - you can "enjoy" visualising the route the taxi's taking in so many London-set movies....

(And some make jokes of it - Paddington, for example.)

GoodyTwoShoes
Oct 26, 2013
My favorite of those is in A Study In Scarlet, the first Sherlock Holmes story. The killer they just caught tells his story, set in America. After barely surviving the trek through the burning desert of Wyoming, the settlers reached the glorious oasis that is the Great Salt Lake.


When I read that as a kid, it nearly broke my brain, cuz I'm from Wyoming and I kept trying to find the horrible desert that doesn't exist.

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nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Runcible Cat posted:

As a Londoner I get that so often with urban fantasy writers who set stuff in London but who've very obviously never been closer than a quick glance at Google Maps.

The Alex Verus books, for example, give the very strong impression of a writer who's picking random London locations because they sound cool (as well as being tedious and crap in other ways).

William Gibson's Zero History is set in London and has a series of slightly strange descriptions like "then we came to LANDMARK" which don't quite feel like their real-world counterparts. For example, there's a long section of a character being driven through the Hangar Lane Gyratory and being in awe of it and ... it's just an intersection.

In the afterword, Gibson thanks London friends for giving him local details he could use. Think they might have phoned it in.

Conversely, Ben Aaronvitchs Rivers of London series are amazingly true to the real world detail. In one passage, he describes a rough track running down to the river from a side street and I realized that I'd been there.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

GoodyTwoShoes posted:

My favorite of those is in A Study In Scarlet, the first Sherlock Holmes story. The killer they just caught tells his story, set in America. After barely surviving the trek through the burning desert of Wyoming, the settlers reached the glorious oasis that is the Great Salt Lake.


When I read that as a kid, it nearly broke my brain, cuz I'm from Wyoming and I kept trying to find the horrible desert that doesn't exist.

Not a bad book, it's great, but Dracula contains the most American man to ever exist, Quincy Morris. You can tell he's American because of all the American things he says and does.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



HopperUK posted:

Not a bad book, it's great, but Dracula contains the most American man to ever exist, Quincy Morris. You can tell he's American because of all the American things he says and does.

Also the cowboy hat.

People always seem to forget that Dracula ends with Dracula literally being stabbed to death with a bowie knife by a Texan in a loving Cowboy Hat

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Asterite34 posted:

Also the cowboy hat.

People always seem to forget that Dracula ends with Dracula literally being stabbed to death with a bowie knife by a Texan in a loving Cowboy Hat

Yee-fuckin'-haw.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm starting to realise there's a reason so many writers set their stories in and around where they live. Either that or a fictional place that's often obviously a stand-in for a real one but with plausible deniability, see Gotham City and Springfield.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'm starting to realise there's a reason so many writers set their stories in and around where they live. Either that or a fictional place that's often obviously a stand-in for a real one but with plausible deniability, see Gotham City and Springfield.

And Bangor Maine.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

50 Shades of Gray begins with Ana Steele driving into Seattle in the opposite direction.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

50 Shades of Gray begins with Ana Steele driving into Seattle in the opposite direction.

That's what happens when hitting copy + Paste on your Twilight fanfiction.

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

I mean it was still wrong in the fanfic, fanfiction.net just has lower editorial standards so it's not as wild.

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Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Djeser posted:

I mean it was still wrong in the fanfic, fanfiction.net just has lower editorial standards so it's not as wild.

I was suggesting that it was correct to Twilight since it takes place in a different town and changing it to Seattle caused issues, but I am happy to be corrected.

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

The original fanfic is also set in Seattle, because that is the nearest big city to where Twilight is set. Master of the Universe isn't about Edward Cullen being the biggest sexiest billionaire in Forks, Washington.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I can't believe E.L. James is a bad writer who makes gigantic errors.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I can't believe E.L. James is a bad writer who makes gigantic errors.

Her inner goddess didn't extend to good editing.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Antivehicular posted:

Were these written by Britons, because I am getting some strong "British people who have heard of certain US states" vibes

There's a terrible Jack Reacher book (which one you may ask???) written once he ran out of ideas and just started churning out whatever where Reacher goes to England and it has this whole section of terrible stereotypes and weird attempts at writing accents from ye olde times and it's just terrible but Lee Child is actually British so all I can assume is that he deliberately wrote it as if he was an American trying to guess at it.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

IamnotJoe posted:

So picked up Good Intentions by Elliot Kay. …Turns out it wasn't horror its author insert smut, about a nerdy nice guy who rescues a succubus and an angel who then become his sex slaves….
Above post is from 2016; strangely enough I had copy/pasted the name & author in my 2023 “books to read from SA” file along with the intro/disclaimer/trigger warning, which was actually amusing. I have search but can’t find whatever post I noted it from, oh well.

When I was reading it I was trying to figure out why someone would do an adaptation of Good Omens in the style of a 90’s Penthouse pictorial.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

Remulak posted:

Above post is from 2016; strangely enough I had copy/pasted the name & author in my 2023 “books to read from SA” file along with the intro/disclaimer/trigger warning, which was actually amusing. I have search but can’t find whatever post I noted it from, oh well.

When I was reading it I was trying to figure out why someone would do an adaptation of Good Omens in the style of a 90’s Penthouse pictorial.

I clicked on that quote and stumbled upon this post on the same page:

wheatpuppy posted:

My 8th-grade lit teacher once told me that David Eddings had done time in jail and/or prison for child abuse, and that's where he started to write the Belgariad. My mom, who had lived in the same town as the teacher at that time, said this was true. But I have never found any evidence to back up their story.

This didn't become public knowledge until much later:
https://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2020/05/it-has-been-revealed-that-fantasy.html

Weird that it was kept secret for so long when it was apparently common knowledge in the local community.

wheatpuppy
Apr 25, 2008

YOU HAVE MY POST!

SimonChris posted:

I clicked on that quote and stumbled upon this post on the same page:

This didn't become public knowledge until much later:
https://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2020/05/it-has-been-revealed-that-fantasy.html

Weird that it was kept secret for so long when it was apparently common knowledge in the local community.

I tried looking it up in the local newspaper archives when I was in middle school but found nothing. Back in the late 80s that was all just getting copied onto microfiche and it was a huge pain to go through. I eventually gave up and then, color me surprised to find out decades later that it's all on Wikipedia.

I got the impression from my English teacher that Eddings distanced himself hard from any indication that he ever even lived in South Dakota. I would imagine that when he was a big name author, his publisher might have also had some vested interest in deflecting any inquiries along those lines.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
For a while there was someone repeatedly removing it from Wikipedia because "those newspaper articles and court cases could be about any number of David and Leigh Eddings' living in South Dakota in 1970!"

TheKennedys
Sep 23, 2006

By my hand, I will take you from this godforsaken internet
I was a massive Eddings hatefan for decades before I learned about all that poo poo, because I'm not from anywhere near him and never thought to look up details of his life; I've read basically everything he's written and despise most of it for the repetitive characters and weird romance stuff and absolute genericism of it all but I read Redemption of Althalus like twelve times and there's bits of the Elenium I genuinely like and aaaaaahhhh I hate him so much

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Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

TheKennedys posted:

but I read Redemption of Althalus like twelve times

Why?

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This thread has been great to me, and also a minor curse. I recently knuckled down and decided to finish a couple of sci-fi "classics" I've been missing, starting with the Foundation series by Asimov. It was like reading some ancient tablet, a true progenitor of men-writing-women, The Bechdel Test, whatever the hell you want to call it, ugh. It's just... the man married and had children! He's clearly seen women before, what the christ?!

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