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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


500 good dogs posted:

I liked this thread better when it was saying all of the banks and crypto were crashing tbh

A huge amount of the American economy is selling Americans more food and booze than they really need

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Griz
May 21, 2001


Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

You should be wary of using phrases like "highly processed foods" because the phrase is meaningless and easily targeted.

margarine is "highly processed" but salted butter is "culinary"

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

i am harry posted:

imagine a place called mountain home being lovely lmao

It has like 11k residents, is poor and rural, generally cold. I dunno seems generic enough.

Maybe it doesn't have enough McDonald's fast food outlets. USAians seem to be obsessed over that stuff.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


DancingShade posted:

It has like 11k residents, is poor and rural, generally cold. I dunno seems generic enough.

Maybe it doesn't have enough McDonald's fast food outlets. USAians seem to be obsessed over that stuff.

Speaking of McDonald's. This seems like a warning sign for the economy.

https://twitter.com/business/status/1642706949371314176

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

A huge amount of the American economy is selling Americans more food and booze than they really need

i do love how in america theres like fewer and fewer things to do in person, especially to meet new people, that arent just "eating at a restaurant"

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

diet habits are baked in when you're young imo - for the most part, i haven't seen many friends successfully fight against their long-term bodyshape

drinking otoh, it's wild how many people basically destroy their health or lives gradually with it

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

SlimGoodbody posted:

A thing I'm watching with nervous curiosity is what happens once potatoes, beef, etc become expensive enough that even the fast food mega franchises which rely on them can no longer offer them at a price that feels worth it to people. What happens to these sectors when even 20% of their user base decides it's not in the budget to spend $10 on a mediocre burger and fries "value" meal whose primary initial draw was that it was supposed to be negligibly cheap?



Rectal Death Adept posted:

https://twitter.com/Fxhedgers/status/1642648773640998913?s=20

McDonalds being considered a milestone for a recession or depression would be pretty appropriate

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Griz posted:

margarine is "highly processed" but salted butter is "culinary"

it makes sense from their definition because margarine is made predominantly from oils. for butter, it does say processed culinary, but also that they should be used sparingly. but that also fits their definition

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Mr Hootington posted:

We do.

I do what to ask how everyone thinks the thread is going? I feel it has become too "general chat" compared to the more "economics chat" it used to be. I also think people are focusing too much on "doom" and getting into a doom-spiral posting.

If anyone has any comments you can post them in reply or pm me.

loving kicked out all the economics people so what can you do

yes I know some of their other opinions about…what was it…squirrels?…were questionable at best, but nobody else understands anything about vix let alone posts daily updates about it, whatever it is

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




So an observation.

It is likely that US oil use has peaked and begun a slow (?) decline over the next several decades. There have been several models and most of them reached this conclusion before the legislation that started quickly moving semiconductor and battery production to the US.

There is a general leftist (atleast here in CSPAM) tendency to want to see the end of the petro-dollar. This is generally expressed in terms of ending the dollars use as a tool for imperialism.

I’m looking at some of these models saying daily US consumption will be 25% of what it is now by 2040 or 2050. California was just approved to phase out diesel/gas trucking by 2050 and no new gas/diesel or hybrid vehicles are going to be for sale in CA by 2035. 2023 is looking to be the third year in a row that the US will be a net exporter of petroleum.

I would also point to the earlier discussion regarding non-lithium lithium equivalents that are appearing. I’m also seeing batteries and battery manufacturing factories coming in a rate that is startling to me.

The future trend will be that OPEC+ is going to have to cut production to keep prices stable to prevent prices from falling below the thresholds they need to fund their governments. This is a feedback loop with US electrification. What we are seeing is that loop starting right now.

this is already the dynamic driving the international politics.

Bar Ran Dun has issued a correction as of 04:14 on Apr 3, 2023

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

opec better come up with something besides pe then or there wont be any c left soon

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

SlimGoodbody posted:

A thing I'm watching with nervous curiosity is what happens once potatoes, beef, etc become expensive enough that even the fast food mega franchises which rely on them can no longer offer them at a price that feels worth it to people. What happens to these sectors when even 20% of their user base decides it's not in the budget to spend $10 on a mediocre burger and fries "value" meal whose primary initial draw was that it was supposed to be negligibly cheap?

i would pay to see a graph that plots consumption of mcdonalds hashbrowns and price of mcdonalds hashbrowns over the last four years

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


actionjackson posted:

it makes sense from their definition because margarine is made predominantly from oils.

lol what the gently caress do you think butter is made from

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

lol what the gently caress do you think butter is made from

it's a trick question, primordial butter is still mined from deep geological deposits under wisconsin

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Al! posted:

we need everyone itt to take a 23 and me and sort themselves by epigenetic usefullness

:hmmyes:
I'll kick this up to the mods and see if we can organize this in some way.

actionjackson posted:

I think there are topics that are of interest but not enough to have their own cpsam threads, so this is kind of a dumping ground for that (like this diet topic)

JamesKPolk posted:

if this is gonna be a general doom chat thread someone should make another one for talking about number-related stuff
I think that is a problem. When the thread talks about the economic news, how economic situations are impacting posters lives or those they know, or economic theory is when the thread works.

i am harry posted:

loving kicked out all the economics people so what can you do

yes I know some of their other opinions about…what was it…squirrels?…were questionable at best, but nobody else understands anything about vix let alone posts daily updates about it, whatever it is

He hasnt posted for 2 years and he shouldn't have died on the chipmunk porn hill.

Mr Hootington has issued a correction as of 04:30 on Apr 3, 2023

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
love to remember the chimpmunk underage porn massacre

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
itll be fine on monday prolly

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

SKULL.GIF posted:

Speaking of McDonald's. This seems like a warning sign for the economy.

https://twitter.com/business/status/1642706949371314176

Is this bad news for Cardi B?

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

lol what the gently caress do you think butter is made from

animal fat?

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Banks have woken. Oil cuts priced in
https://twitter.com/LiveSquawk/status/1642731550205702145?t=LUTy_sGb4bafJ66ViaZ3Zg&s=19

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


I wish oxsnard could've been with us for the past 8 months of VIX being deliberately crushed by the finance industry ever since Yellen "expressed concern" about the banks' liquidity back in October.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
tori riling up the artisicucks is making me legitimately nostalgic

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Radirot posted:

animal fat?

i mean, yes exactly. if it was fat that was extracted from other existing foods instead, it would be ultraprocessed.

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

Economics thread and the stock picking thread in business are always wildly off topic on weekends because there's no news to discuss. It's fine.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

i am harry posted:

i would pay to see a graph that plots consumption of mcdonalds hashbrowns and price of mcdonalds hashbrowns over the last four years

That's gotta exist in some McDonald's sales reports somewhere, though I doubt they're necessarily public.

Mola Yam posted:

love to remember the chimpmunk underage porn massacre

Mr Hootington posted:

He hasnt posted for 2 years and he shouldn't have died on the chipmunk porn hill.

Gonna need this goonlore

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
Meanwhile, in China,

https://twitter.com/SCMPNews/status/1642694589747175424?t=yz1UWz4CkXPnRTOZ_3xWoA&s=19

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




so about food prices…

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/02/us/tulare-lake-california-storms.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!

SlimGoodbody posted:

That's gotta exist in some McDonald's sales reports somewhere, though I doubt they're necessarily public.



Gonna need this goonlore

someone posted alvin and the chipmunks porn. got removed pretty quick and that should have been the end of it.

but their posting enemies did the whole pearl-clutching karen thing in QCS about how oh my GOD those chipmunks are CHILDREN this is PEDOPHILIA

instead of simply lolling and lmaoing, a bunch of goons rushed the QCS thread in the name of CSPAM with ardent defenses of posting erotic illustrations of young cartoon rodents, and thus dashed themselves against the permaban cliffs

amazing to see, just the best forums on the internet.

Petanque
Apr 14, 2008

Ca va bien aller
i enjoyed the mélenchon speech but it's so antithetical to all that number stands for it's no wonder everyone moved on

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

telling that the only way to be weird enough to understand volatility indices is to have chipmonk porn on your 'puter

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


The Voice of Labor posted:

telling that the only way to be weird enough to understand volatility indices is to have chipmonk porn on your 'puter

Ah, good ol' telephone warping the situation. And you even consciously and deliberately chose to exaggerate the telephone.

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

You can make potato chips in your own home with minimal effort that are probably worse for you than what Herr's packages. Are they highly processed? Probably not, if you ask people who are doing it.

A Big Mac is 563 calories. There's a local place, Moonlit Burgers, where a single burger is around 1200 calories. If you asked the average guy, the Big Mac is 'highly processed' but the artisanal burger place ain't. Despite being worse for you in every way.

Base on that NOVA document, they would define both the McDonalds and local burgers as being highly-processed, as they are derived from food constituents and extruded/molded.

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
i can't believe he hosed all those chipmunks

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Mr Hootington posted:

We do.

I do what to ask how everyone thinks the thread is going? I feel it has become too "general chat" compared to the more "economics chat" it used to be. I also think people are focusing too much on "doom" and getting into a doom-spiral posting.

If anyone has any comments you can post them in reply or pm me.

it's fine: it's weekend posting which is going to be more general chat (but usually still economically tangential). it's same as it ever was on the weekend for years now. i don't think anything is "doom"

i might try to start posting some regional stories again on the weekend for content

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

i am harry posted:

literally
like we literally all have this now
little tiny filaments from a tshirt you wore ten years ago, breathed into your mouth, swallowed, and then lodged in the tissue of your sphincter

great poem!

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

anime was right posted:

go crash a bank we kinda need it

I just pulled all my money out of the bank and buried it in the yard, what are you doing to help crash the banks?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Remember when the EU tried to put price caps on how much they'd pay for oil a while back? $60 a barrel I think they tried. Lmao

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

DancingShade posted:

Remember when the EU tried to put price caps on how much they'd pay for oil a while back? $60 a barrel I think they tried. Lmao

This was for Russian oil and it was the G7. Japan already broke the price cap and is buying Russian oil at $70 a barrel.

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

lol

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