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Beve Stuscemi posted:The what now? If you’re playing anything graphic intensive (it’s happened with Dead Space and now RE4 Remake) sometimes the Deck will simply flip to power save me and underclock the CPU/GPU and just lock itself there. Plugging back in won’t switch things back to normal, you won’t be able to change gpu/power profiles, hell even a restart won’t fix it. You need to basically either force a restore on bios or (if you’re on rEFInd / dual boots) boot up Windows to shake whatever lock off then boot back to Steam.
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Apr 3, 2023 14:50
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I’ve seen people on the SD reddit go through RMA for it but it’s mostly an annoyance for me. A really dumb annoyance since it’s arbitrary when it happens. Like today I was at like 48% battery left when the thing locked up. Like sure you want to go to power mode at like 10-20%, go for it. Or give me a heads up before so I can plug in. It having no rhyme or reason of when it hits and then having to jump hoops to unlock it is what’s annoying.
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Apr 3, 2023 15:11
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That's something my laptop would do when a GPU sensor failed and it thought it was constantly trying to draw 500W.
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So, Asus announced this as part of an April fools video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5lq4Q7YAjE And it turns out that it's actually real: https://twitter.com/ASUS_ROG/status/1642882143193010176 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnHRxqg1dKo This is the first big-name contender to the Steam Deck from a well-known hardware manufacturer. Like the Steam Deck, it sounds like they're using semicustom SoC from AMD, while the Aya Neo/GPD Win (and others) are using laptop chips. Those laptop chips often have CPUs that are more powerful than necessary for a low-power handheld PC, so a custom chip with maybe 4 Zen 3 cores and an RDNA3 GPU (as ETA Prime speculates) would be pretty sweet. It's an ROG product though, so it's probably going to be stupidly expensive.
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What the hell one of the reps called it a joke (A-Lie) in another earlier tweet. Definitely used the confusion to build hype and it worked on at least my dumb rear end. Real talk though, an eGPU dock is an amazing idea and I’m glad the market is moving in this direction. I love the idea of handheld PC’s being a real trend and I hope it’s successful whether or not I get one. Also hope it doesn’t force some kind of Armoury Crate bloatware. Rolo fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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Apr 3, 2023 16:07
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Deck with EGPU dock would completely kill any reason I have to use a normal PC, other than work.
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Apr 3, 2023 16:10
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1080p@120hz, why.
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Apr 3, 2023 16:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drLZxyv79Oo Dave2D actually got one to test and has more details. It's actually Zen 4 and RDNA3 on TSMC 4nm. Which in layman's terms means it's basically as cutting edge as it can be. This thing is going to be really drat expensive. edit: 120hz is actually sick as hell, especially if the display is freesync.
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Apr 3, 2023 16:42
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I'll be honest, I'm not looking forward to a ton of fragmentation in the handheld gaming PC space, which is probably what's going to happen if other big names start diving in. The fact that the SD is ridiculously versatile since it's just a handheld PC is great, but the real killer feature is that it's like 70-80% of the way there when it comes to being a low-spec standard for mobile PC gaming. Not saying the Ally doesn't look cool, because it does, but it's the combination of versatility, reasonable hardware targets, and dirt cheap prices that make the SD something more than the tech toy handheld PCs that have been around for years. I was kind of hoping it'd be the only real game in town for at least a few more years just to encourage developers to target it.
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Apr 3, 2023 16:54
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It's interesting that it just runs Win11 but I agree that they gotta put some kind of intuitive launcher on it. The Deck's Game Mode / Desktop Mode dichotomy works p well. Haven't seen too many attempts at Win11 mobile SKUs, like that was the idea behind Win8 but I thought they largely abandoned it
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homeless snail posted:1080p@120hz, why. Yeah, I keep my deck at 40hz and it's perfect. This seems like they're just stuffing it full of dumb specs to dazzle people who don't know any better. Like, Zen4 and RDNA3 is cool, but I really doubt it's going to be hitting 120fps at 1080p... not with a usable battery life time, anyway.
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I think a good way to sum it up is that Valve is a software company and Asus is a hardware company, and ok hardware running great software is better than the other way around. Like, don't just put Win11 on it and call it a day, do SOMEthing to make it usable controller-only Now if they had it run SteamOS I'd be interested
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Macichne Leainig posted:Yeah, I keep my deck at 40hz and it's perfect.
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homeless snail posted:Same reason why its absolutely slathered in RGB Also white, because you just need to see that first fleck of cheeto dust a mile away. Also it's definitely gonna look great in 3 years.
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The steam hooks in the deck are definitely a huge part of the appeal for me. The fact that I can swap back and forth between handheld and pc, on the same save, in under a minute is insane.
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Paradoxish posted:I'll be honest, I'm not looking forward to a ton of fragmentation in the handheld gaming PC space, which is probably what's going to happen if other big names start diving in. The fact that the SD is ridiculously versatile since it's just a handheld PC is great, but the real killer feature is that it's like 70-80% of the way there when it comes to being a low-spec standard for mobile PC gaming. nobody is buying this thing
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Apr 3, 2023 17:23
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120hz is sick for simple games though? what's the downside here other than a tiny additional cost on a device that already costs a hojillion dollars
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TwoDice posted:120hz is sick for simple games though? what's the downside here other than a tiny additional cost on a device that already costs a hojillion dollars Battery is currently the bottleneck.
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Yeah you can see it on phones, I can run a few games at 120hz on my iPhone but generally not a great idea because the phone then gets really hot and dies fast.
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I think it looks interesting if it can compete with Steam Deck on battery life and base cost is <= $600. Much more than that or lovely battery life and forget it.
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How does fallen order work on deck? Does the EA stuff screw it up and prevent it from working? I'm wondering if survivor is going to be playable or not.
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How's general phone and battery performance at 120hz? I don't notice the difference between 60hz and 120hz in most 3D games on my PC, but with anything 2D including UI elements the difference is night and day, so I could be interested in an upgrade for that.
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edit- ^^^ 120hz creams the battery life on most phones. I have a pretty recent flagship with decent-ish battery life under normal circumstances and while 120hz is fine for normal phone stuff, it will poo poo all over the battery on even basic 2D games. Likewise locking framerate and cutting the refresh rate is basically one of the most effective things you can do to eek out more battery life on the SD. There's no downside assuming the faster screen costs $0, but it's not a great feature for a handheld. Saving even $50 on the cost would be better than the higher specs tbh Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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The other concern I have with it is that I doubt precompiled shaders will be a thing like with SD unless Valve is opening that up to other hardware manufacturers.
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RandomBlue posted:I think it looks interesting if it can compete with Steam Deck on battery life and base cost is <= $600. Much more than that or lovely battery life and forget it. So you're hoping that a device that's more powerful and isn't being subsidized at all by software sales or economies of scale will have the same battery life and price? This isn't even a possibility.
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I'm bummed I've yet to see any of these steam deck competitors even attempt to replicate the mouse touch-panels of the steam deck / controller. It's the one thing I think makes using desktop mode, or games that just need a little bump to get started (full controller support!! except for the main menu whoops sorry) bearable. All the others seem to just half-heartedly stick a button to switch a controller to mouse mode, which is barf. Additional note, please make a steam controller v2 to go along with my deck tyia
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Also worth keeping in mind that battery life is already the weakest feature of the SD by a mile. Something that can't match that battery life at a minimum is bordering on useless as a handheld.
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Quixzlizx posted:So you're hoping that a device that's more powerful and isn't being subsidized at all by software sales or economies of scale will have the same battery life and price? This isn't even a possibility. Yeah, I was thinking that too. Valve at least has the argument of the Deck being an easy on-ramp into the Steam ecosystem, even for the less technically inclined. I doubt the Asus RGB gamer poo poo will have that going for it, as impressive as it might be on paper
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Macichne Leainig posted:Yeah, I was thinking that too. Valve at least has the argument of the Deck being an easy on-ramp into the Steam ecosystem, even for the less technically inclined. I doubt the Asus RGB gamer poo poo will have that going for it, as impressive as it might be on paper The issue is, even in the theoretical universe where everyone loves and prefers this Asus device, all of the resulting game sale money will be going to Valve, not Asus. So Asus isn't going to sell at a loss for... nothing in return whatsoever other than sweaty gamer love. Their only profit opportunity is on the hardware side.
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Quixzlizx posted:So you're hoping that a device that's more powerful and isn't being subsidized at all by software sales or economies of scale will have the same battery life and price? This isn't even a possibility. Macichne Leainig posted:Yeah, I was thinking that too. Valve at least has the argument of the Deck being an easy on-ramp into the Steam ecosystem, even for the less technically inclined. I doubt the Asus RGB gamer poo poo will have that going for it, as impressive as it might be on paper Similar battery life , 50% more for the base model is not "the same price". I don't think either will happen but I think that's what it'll take for it to be competitive.
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Yeah, if it's going to cost as much as a middle-tier gaming system (~$1200), then what's the point of getting it over just getting the full-blown system? at Windows 11. Enjoy ads and bye bye to 20+gb of storage for the OS alone.I'm glad to see competition, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Lord Bob posted:Additional note, please make a steam controller v2 to go along with my deck tyia From your lips to Gabe’s ear!
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RandomBlue posted:Similar battery life , 50% more for the base model is not "the same price". This wouldn't be competing with the base model. $600 is, in fact, "the same price" as the model it would be competing with. $50 cheaper, even.
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Paradoxish posted:I'll be honest, I'm not looking forward to a ton of fragmentation in the handheld gaming PC space, which is probably what's going to happen if other big names start diving in. The fact that the SD is ridiculously versatile since it's just a handheld PC is great, but the real killer feature is that it's like 70-80% of the way there when it comes to being a low-spec standard for mobile PC gaming. I don't think you need to worry about any of that because
All these are just trying to get a piece of the pie as quick as possible.
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Saint Freak posted:The default file path for Heroic cloud saves is super wrong. You'll have to do some research per game to find the correct one. It'll probably look something like /home/deck/Games/Heroic/Prefixes/[GAME]/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/local/[GAME]/Saved/SaveGames/[UUID OF GAME]/ Perfect! Thanks!
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I don't even know what the Asus target market is. Like yeah there's plenty of people with more money than sense, but either you already know about the Steam Deck and have considered it, or you're technically apt enough to know that just throwing a bunch of specs into a handheld and saying "good luck" is not addressing any of the problems with the form factor
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RandomBlue posted:I think it looks interesting if it can compete with Steam Deck on battery life and base cost is <= $600. Much more than that or lovely battery life and forget it. It's going to be $899 at the cheapest, and have 2 hours of battery life. The fact that it runs windows is, honestly, not a good thing. Windows does too much, and purpose-specific computers suffer for it.
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